Charlotte Bonehead

To play devils advocate...Denny for always spouting off in the media, twitter, or his podcast about others but not doing anything about it. He never got Ross back he won't get Chase back but he will and has already cried on Twitter and I'm sure he will on his pod. Then his chase hating boys on DBC will be all like Dennys great.
 
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This is tough , both Chase and Aric are both deserving of it.
 
Chase. IMO there’s no way he sits. He’s worth half a million viewers and that’s a proven fact.
 
Efisher131 said:
Chase. IMO there’s no way he sits. He’s worth half a million viewers and that’s a proven fact.
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Agreed. They already lost him for how many weeks due to his injury, so there's no way they're parking him in addition to that. If asked why Bubba was parked and Chase wasn't, they'll probably say Bubba was parked due to the physical escalation aspect of his situation.
 
cheesepuffs said:
Agreed. They already lost him for how many weeks due to his injury, so there's no way they're parking him in addition to that. If asked why Bubba was parked and Chase wasn't, they'll probably say Bubba was parked due to the physical escalation aspect of his situation.
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They already said that it wasn’t because of that. They can’t go back on that now.
 
cheesepuffs said:
Agreed. They already lost him for how many weeks due to his injury, so there's no way they're parking him in addition to that. If asked why Bubba was parked and Chase wasn't, they'll probably say Bubba was parked due to the physical escalation aspect of his situation.
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They can say anything they want. You and I both know what the media will latch onto, and frankly I cannot argue against them. (media) NASCAR doesn't need that, especially with tv deal negotiations going on.
 
cheesepuffs said:
Agreed. They already lost him for how many weeks due to his injury, so there's no way they're parking him in addition to that. If asked why Bubba was parked and Chase wasn't, they'll probably say Bubba was parked due to the physical escalation aspect of his situation.
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NASCAR has ALREADY said Bubba was suspended for the on-track incident. If they let Chase Elliott slide, it'll draw two narratives:

1.) NASCAR again showing favoritism toward Chase Elliott because MPD.
2.) NASCAR suspended a black man for something and let a white man do the same.

All NASCAR had to do was say they suspended Bubba for both incidents, not just the on-track retaliation. Because now they've set a precedent.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
NASCAR has ALREADY said Bubba was suspended for the on-track incident. If they let Chase Elliott slide, it'll draw two narratives:

1.) NASCAR again showing favoritism toward Chase Elliott because MPD.
2.) NASCAR suspended a black man for something and let a white man do the same.

All NASCAR had to do was say they suspended Bubba for both incidents, not just the on-track retaliation. Because now they've set a precedent.
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3) NASCAR is afraid to anger the Kingpin of the NASCAR Mafia, Rick Hendrick.
 
This may change how folks think on the Chase vs Hambone incident. But, knowing this bunch, maybe not.

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sdj said:
This may change how folks think on the Chase vs Hambone incident. But, knowing this bunch, maybe not.

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This doesn't tell the story at all though. It's a screenshot Chase fans are sharing to prove he did nothing wrong.

The video and SMT data doesn't lie. Chase was already moving down to wreck Hamlin before the contact from Brad Keselowski.
 
sdj said:
This may change how folks think on the Chase vs Hambone incident. But, knowing this bunch, maybe not.

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That's after he was already cutting hard left. Brad had nowhere to go. *edit* Sorry @sdj, I hadn't refreshed and read whole thread where you, Andy, et al had already pointed this out
 
I will be surprised if the fans calling for Elliott's head on a pike are going to get the satisfaction they desire

Hocevar in the trucks was penalized two laps for hooking Taylor Grey doing almost exactly the same thing as Elliott did. Elliott suffered a worse penalty than that with a DNF.
Hamlin ran his mouth when he wrecked Chastain. Controversial at best
Chastain wrecked Larson..what happened there.

Wallace got out of his car ON the racetrack during the race and assaulted Larson AFTER he wrecked him. Can't have that bush league move on national TV, this isn't Saturday night at the short track.
 
StandOnIt said:
I will be surprised if the fans calling for Elliott's head on a pike are going to get the satisfaction they desire

Hocevar in the trucks was penalized two laps for hooking Taylor Grey doing almost exactly the same thing as Elliott did. Elliott suffered a worse penalty than that with a DNF.
Hamlin ran his mouth when he wrecked Chastain. Controversial at best
Chastain wrecked Larson..what happened there.

Wallace got out of his car ON the racetrack during the race and assaulted Larson AFTER he wrecked him. Can't have that bush league move on national TV, this isn't Saturday night at the short track.
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NASCAR said all of the shoving had nothing to do with the suspension. It was because of hooking Larson.

Chase hooked Denny, it should be a slam dunk case. If they don't do the same there, I would be pretty disappointed.
 
Kiante said:
NASCAR said all of the shoving had nothing to do with the suspension. It was because of hooking Larson.

Chase hooked Denny, it should be a slam dunk case. If they don't do the same there, I would be pretty disappointed.
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You hear what you want to hear I suppose.

Wallace was suspended for one race after he crashed Kyle Larson at Lap 94 of the South Point 400 and proceeded to shove Larson, both violations of Sections 4.3.A and 4.4.C & E of the NASCAR Member Code of Conduct laid out in the NASCAR Rule Book. Rule 4.4.C lists “intentionally wrecking or spinning another vehicle, whether or not that vehicle is removed from Competition as a result” as one of five member actions that could result in a penalty.

MORE: Details of the Vegas crash | Larson’s reaction at Vegas

The incident began at the exit of Turn 4 in the Cup Series’ Round of 8 opener at the 1.5-mile track, where Larson slid high and forced Wallace’s 23XI Racing No. 45 Toyota into the outside retaining wall. Wallace, the victor of Stage 1, turned left into Larson’s right-rear quarter panel, sending the No. 5 Chevrolet spinning toward the outside wall and clipping Christopher Bell’s No. 20 Toyota in the process. Bell is still competing for a spot in the Championship 4 while Larson continues to chase an owners’ championship for Hendrick Motorsports. None of the three competitors were able to continue.

Steve O’Donnell, NASCAR’s chief operating officer, joined SiriusXM NASCAR Radio’s “SiriusXM Speedway” on Tuesday afternoon to discuss why the sanctioning body responded to Wallace’s actions with a suspension.

“Our actions are really specific to what took place on the race track,” O’Donnell told host Dave Moody. “And when we look at how that incident occurred, in our minds, really a dangerous act. We thought that was intentional and put other competitors at risk. And as we look at the sport and where we are today and where we want to draw that line going forward, we thought that definitely crossed the line and that’s what we focused on in terms of making this call.”

 
Regardless of what NASCAR does they're damned if they do and damned if they don't.
NASCAR can't win. Some will like their decision, some won't.
Personally, it doesn't affect me one way or the other. It's entertaining as hell to watch people turn themselves inside out
ranting and raving.
 
StandOnIt said:
You hear what you want to hear I suppose.

Wallace was suspended for one race after he crashed Kyle Larson at Lap 94 of the South Point 400 and proceeded to shove Larson, both violations of Sections 4.3.A and 4.4.C & E of the NASCAR Member Code of Conduct laid out in the NASCAR Rule Book. Rule 4.4.C lists “intentionally wrecking or spinning another vehicle, whether or not that vehicle is removed from Competition as a result” as one of five member actions that could result in a penalty.

MORE: Details of the Vegas crash | Larson’s reaction at Vegas

The incident began at the exit of Turn 4 in the Cup Series’ Round of 8 opener at the 1.5-mile track, where Larson slid high and forced Wallace’s 23XI Racing No. 45 Toyota into the outside retaining wall. Wallace, the victor of Stage 1, turned left into Larson’s right-rear quarter panel, sending the No. 5 Chevrolet spinning toward the outside wall and clipping Christopher Bell’s No. 20 Toyota in the process. Bell is still competing for a spot in the Championship 4 while Larson continues to chase an owners’ championship for Hendrick Motorsports. None of the three competitors were able to continue.

Steve O’Donnell, NASCAR’s chief operating officer, joined SiriusXM NASCAR Radio’s “SiriusXM Speedway” on Tuesday afternoon to discuss why the sanctioning body responded to Wallace’s actions with a suspension.

“Our actions are really specific to what took place on the race track,” O’Donnell told host Dave Moody. “And when we look at how that incident occurred, in our minds, really a dangerous act. We thought that was intentional and put other competitors at risk. And as we look at the sport and where we are today and where we want to draw that line going forward, we thought that definitely crossed the line and that’s what we focused on in terms of making this call.”

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Putting someone at risk going 170 mph down the frontstretch and putting them into the wall.

You're going against your own point.
 
Kiante said:
Putting someone at risk going 170 mph down the frontstretch and putting them into the wall.

You're going against your own point.
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Nascar has a rule that you can't get out of your car and assault other drivers. That is probably Section 4.3A. This rule was put in place because drivers like Tony were throwing helmets, safety equipment etc at drivers rolling by under caution. Now they just shoot them the bird. They don't get out of the car under caution and run over and assault another driver.
 
The whole deal with Hamlin was bone headed on multiple levels. Yeah, as much as I dislike Denny, you don't hook someone in the RR at those speeds no matter what. And if you're going to retaliate, don't take yourself out in the process! You gotta be more methodical instead of letting a knee jerk reaction ruin your day and possibly hurt someone. That was bad form and bad strategy. Chase is usually really good at keeping a cool head and planning an appropriate method of revenge, so yesterday was a big disappointment.

Oh well. Life goes on.
 
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