CONGRATULATIONS JEFF GORDON

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WOO HOO, YES!

I know there will be quite a few to slam him about the 17 wreck, but Matt was running out of fuel and "that's racing".

Great team effort!
 
CONGRATS TO JEFF.

yesssssssssssssssss finally a winner at chicagoland..3 to go.

and matt clearly was gonna lose that race no matter what....
 
N2racin88 said:
Did you feel that way after Bristol?

In fact, I think that any slam drafting is just plain wrong no matter WHO does it.
No slam drafting today, and a few "Racing Insidents".

BTW, Bristol and other short tracks are well known for "Rubbin IS Racin", yet there are some drivers who just plain try the slam dump.
 
UPON FURTHER REVIEW:

Jeff was off the gas when he hit kenseth. He detected kenseth slowing down, and got off the gas but not soon enough. If you watch the replay again in slow-mo, there was raw fuel coming out the exhaust right before he hit kenseth, or so it appeared.
 
another thing....the fans..or should i said...dale jr fans...are complete losers...you just dont do that when someone wins a race...i like dale and i'm sorry i'm saying this about his fans but truth be told..
 
Great run for Gordon. I don't think he intentionally wrecked Matt, but he could have waited til they cleared the 42 to make the pass. I think Gordon clearly had the car to beat, those guys deserved that one.
What the hell was going on with Stremme on the last lap?! I guess he was trying to clip some points off of his nearly 1400 point deficit.
 
I agree reck, there is absolutely NO excuse for so called "fans" to throw junk on any track, no matter who their "favorite" is!
 
kat2220 said:
I agree reck, there is absolutely NO excuse for so called "fans" to throw junk on any track, no matter who their "favorite" is!

If they could find out who those jackasses were (which I know they can't), they should be permanently banned from attending future sporting events.
 
reck said:
another thing....the fans..or should i said...dale jr fans...are complete losers...you just dont do that when someone wins a race...i like dale and i'm sorry i'm saying this about his fans but truth be told..


Why are you so sure they were Jr fans?


You must be really jealous of him since 2/3's of your posts are about him. Get over it.......
 
I thought those were Jeff Burton people! LOL

It doesn't matter whose shirt, if any, those people were wearing, throwing things on the track is just wrong.

Please notice I didn't call those people "fans" --- true fans don't do that chit.
 
Since the track is not that far from WI, i beat ya they were "fans" of the 17.

I agrre with TRL real fans would not of done that.
 
fergy1370 said:
Why are you so sure they were Jr fans?


You must be really jealous of him since 2/3's of your posts are about him. Get over it.......


because whenever he wins...they are the ones who do that...remember talladega? i bet you do
 
Yep, I sure do....

I remember seeing things thrown on the track three times.....Once was Daytona when Jarrett won the Pepsi 400, the Talladega race and now this one. Jeff has one a lot of other races where I didn't see anything thrown, including several races I have attended.

But then again, I'm not looking through rainbow colored glasses.....
 
^ oh i didn't see that part where you wrote that was jealous....of who? get your stuff right "fergy" i have nothing to be jealous about..and for your info i'm not looking through rainbow glasses no.

STOP attacking me.
 
All I can say is Jeff would have been whining all the way home if he were in the front.
 
If I was Matt I would be thanking Jeff. Spinning him caused a caution so that he could come in and put some gas in the tank. He'd of finished worse had Jeffy not spun him.
 
wolfcub said:
All I can say is Jeff would have been whining all the way home if he were in the front.


and you think matt wasn't?

he even brought up the bristol inccident....why cant matt's fans not understant he got lose and slowed a bunch..so yeah.
 
N2racin88 said:
If I was Matt I would be thanking Jeff. Spinning him caused a caution so that he could come in and put some gas in the tank. He'd of finished worse had Jeffy not spun him.
good point
 
It's a shame that some fans do stuff like that. It really is pathetic. Stuff like that is why NASCAR will always be considered a redneck sport.
 
Stuff like that is why NASCAR will always be considered a redneck sport.

But, at least it took place up North. Proving that "rednecks" come from all parts of the country and not just the South.
IMO, Jeff didn't dump him on purpose. Of course if Jeff had been psychic he would have known Matt was going to run out of fuel and he wouldn't have had to run as hard to get the win. Cause if he didn't have such good control he could have easily taken out himself.
 
kam said:
It's a shame that some fans do stuff like that. It really is pathetic. Stuff like that is why NASCAR will always be considered a redneck sport.


Based on your theory, there must be a bunch of "rednecks" attending Raider games, also.
Joking aside, I agree, it is a shame that those people act like idiots.
 
Kinda funny all the people saying that they don't think Gordon dumped him on purpose. Listen to Gordon in his interview again & tell me that he didn't dump him. "He blocked me", "we had the best car", "we were hungry", etc, etc. He admits it without admitting it. Gordon has run tons of races & has tons of talent. So much talent and experience that in that particular situation, he easily could have passed him cleanly & knew it. He dumped him. I have a feeling you'll see Matt putting Gordon in the wall at a crucial point later in the season.
 
reck said:
^ oh i didn't see that part where you wrote that was jealous....of who? get your stuff right "fergy" i have nothing to be jealous about..and for your info i'm not looking through rainbow glasses no.

STOP attacking me.

Hey reck, here's an idea....if you can't take it, don't come on here & dish it out, alright. And another thing, get over the whole attacking you thing. That's totally freaking ridiculous.
 
^ to both idiotic posts you made..

first off gordon did not do it on purpose.

plus lets think for a sec..so here is jeff gordon sitting second..he's thinking oh let me go on ahead and spin the # 17 so that nascar's official can suspend me/duck points from me plus i'm on probation..wow that was smart.

please dude get it right.

OH BTW no i will not stop coming here because you said so, or "dish out" unless you could ban me,,,can you? only mods and admins can do that, you're not a part of them so stop acting like you have power here, lets freaking respect one another.
 
ok now, watch yourselves...let's be tame here before i have to start using the edit button.
 
ok,

While i have never drove a NASCAR, nor raced on a praved track. (i have test drove a ledgon car at KY Speedway in 2003) I just have dirt under my belt.

Last week, i knew i had a fast car, had the fastest car on the track. But i could not get around the leader, so i went in the turn right behind him, as soon as i am getting read to do a cross over he checks up, i have no choice but to hit him. It was a racing deal. going hard for the lead. But unlike Jeff and Matt, my car got tore up and he Finished. We talked after the race, and we talked this week, no bad blood.

I fell that Jeff did not "dump" Matt. To me it looks like Matt checked up due to the 42, and Jeff was at the point and had no choice but to hit him.

But, none of us but Jeff and Matt really knows what all happaned at the time.

And to the fans, its a heck of alot easer to watch the race and make calls on what happaned then being out there, totaly differnt ball game, and i leaned that when i drove in my 1st race.
 
CypressTrout said:
Kinda funny all the people saying that they don't think Gordon dumped him on purpose. Listen to Gordon in his interview again & tell me that he didn't dump him. "He blocked me", "we had the best car", "we were hungry", etc, etc. He admits it without admitting it. Gordon has run tons of races & has tons of talent. So much talent and experience that in that particular situation, he easily could have passed him cleanly & knew it. He dumped him. I have a feeling you'll see Matt putting Gordon in the wall at a crucial point later in the season.
Totally agree Cypress, Jeff had the faster car, Matt said it himself in the post race interview. So why didn't Jeff wait another half a lap to pass the 17 on the back stretch or the front stretch where he would have had a clear shot at him? No he has to press the issue with another car up to the outside of Matt. I think it was payback and i think that this isn't over ....by a long shot. As for the fans throwing stuff on the track....that was a classless act, but then again they were also showing their "emotion" in the heat of the moment. At least it wasn't when the green flag was out! Streme does not belong in that ride, i have been saying that from day 1 of the 06 season.
 
We don't know WHO would've ran out of gas if not for the caution and someone's looking through something rose colored if they think Gordon didn't know what he was doing.

I didn't catch the throwing crap in the track - I just heard the announcers say something. IMO, the next thing that should thrown from the stands to the track are the idiots who threw the stuff in the first place.

Like booing, however, maybe it's a compliment.
 
Paybacks are hell...aren't they Matt? :)

Jeez, you guys act like this is the first time any of you have seen this sort of thing. Happens all the time and that's why Helton said that they looked at this and decided that it was nothing but racing. Jeffy said that it was partly payback and partly racing. He said that Matt did it to him at Bristol and now I've retaliated.

BTW, Jeffy also gave warning to other drivers as well, including Tony Stewart. Jeffy sounds a bit like the late Dale Earnhardt sounded after a couple of years where he had seemed to lose his aggresiveness and he announced that he would start racing like he had in the past. I do believe that was a warning to other drivers that the Intimadator was back at the track. Jeffy is hungry to make the chase and with all those who are close behind him just as hungry, it'll make for some pretty interesting racing in the next 8 races.
 
From NASCAR.com...



JOLIET, Ill. -- Jeff Gordon didn't get out of his car and shove Matt Kenseth this time. According to Kenseth, Gordon did it while sitting in the driver's seat.

Kenseth was leading the USG Sheetrock 400 at Chicagoland with four laps to go when he was hit from behind by Jeff Gordon, sending him spinning onto the backstretch.

Gordon got a tremendous run on Kenseth on Lap 263, but Kenseth was in his way, and he refused to back off, mainly because he said that Kenseth was unfairly blocking him.

"In two laps, he could have passed me clean," Kenseth said. "He just dumped me."

Gordon, who won for the second time in three weeks, was unapologetic, saying his aggressiveness was necessitated by his need to win.

"I drove right in the back of him," Gordon said. "I didn't mean to wreck him, but I didn't mind moving him out of the way. If we can get the win, we are going to go really hard to get that win.

NASCAR officials said the incident was just hard racing.

"A slower car in front of a faster car, and passing traffic in the closing laps of a race, it happens a lot," said NASCAR president Mike Helton. "If we had seen anything there for us to react to, we would have reacted to it already."

Robbie Reiser, Kenseth's crew chief, didn't agree.

"Well, you're trying to lap a racecar and the guy drives in the back of you," Reiser said. "I don't know if I agree with that deal."

It was the second incident of the season between the two, who clashed at Bristol in March. In that race, Kenseth bumped Gordon, and Gordon got out of his car and shoved Kenseth on pit road after the race. That action cost Gordon $10,000 and put him on probation until Aug. 31.

"I got the bad end of it at Bristol, and he got the bad end of it today," Gordon said. "If he had come and shoved me, it would have been a clean slate. Those guys are racers and they understand what happens when you race for a win like that."

The contact on Sunday ruined a possible top-three finish for Kenseth, who led a race-high 112 laps but admittedly didn't have the car to beat Gordon.

That was what ticked Kenseth off. He knew Gordon was going to beat him head-to-head, but he didn't think he would finish the race in the infield care center.

"I know for sure it was intentional, but that is OK," Kenseth said. "We didn't have the car to win. I just could not get it pulled off. We would have run out of fuel anyway."

Kenseth recovered from the spin and was on the track for the last lap, but he tangled with David Stremme and wadded his car against the Turn 1 wall after the checkered flag.

It was the second consecutive year that Kenseth led the most laps at Chicagoland, only to lose the race -- Dale Earnhardt Jr. beat him last year on pit strategy.

Kenseth suggested that Gordon might have been angry over a restart on Lap 237, accusing Gordon of hanging back illegally when the green flag flew.

"On the restart, he was hanging back," Kenseth said. "I have never seen [NASCAR] enforce it."

Gordon said that Kenseth continuously blocked him.

"I wanted to race and I had a run but he blocked me again," Gordon said. "I couldn't believe he was doing that and then I had such a great run that I'm not going to back out."
 
reck said:
another thing....the fans..or should i said...dale jr fans...are complete losers...you just dont do that when someone wins a race...i like dale and i'm sorry i'm saying this about his fans but truth be told..

just what makes you think it was jr fans ?
 
reck said:
because whenever he wins...they are the ones who do that...remember talladega? i bet you do

but do you remember WHY they did it ? think that was a little dif. i would be will in to bet it wasn't jr fans but ABG'ers
and by the way please don't act like everyone is out to get you and jeff it's not very appealing
 
I have an 'net friend on another board that had Matt on the scanner --- apparently Matt was telling Robbie that the car was beginning to sputter because he ran out of gas. Could it be that the car just sputtered at the wrong moment and Jeff hit him?

As someone said earlier, Matt could easily have been further back in the field at the end if he'd run out of gas.

And let's be real --- stuff happens on the track. My driver was the best there ever was at making things happen. ;)
 
buckaroo said:
Paybacks are hell...aren't they Matt? :)
Jeez, you guys act like this is the first time any of you have seen this sort of thing.
BTW, Jeffy also gave warning to other drivers as well, including Tony Stewart. Jeffy sounds a bit like the late Dale Earnhardt sounded after a couple of years where he had seemed to lose his aggresiveness and he announced that he would start racing like he had in the past. Jeffy is hungry to make the chase and with all those who are close behind him just as hungry, it'll make for some pretty interesting racing in the next 8 races.

Finally, someone making sense of what happened and not taking sides, plus being observant of the message Gordon was sending during the post race interview.
Did everyone forget what happened at Bristol ??? Matt Kenseth took Jeff Gordon out of the chase at that race.

Interestingly, Jeff Gordon's comments at the post-race interview were not those of a "whiner", "prima donna", "sponsor public relations dream groomed for television", race personality as described recently by many fans of the sport.

Comments made by Jeff Gordon were words of a driver who is racing hard, and will speak his mind. Gordon did everything but admit Kenseth and he had a score to settle without coming right out and saying it. Good move since we have seen what happens when they speak thier mind over the airwaves or later interviews.

Kenseth and Jeff Gordon are two of the best drivers in NASCAR today. Smart enough to put both incidents behind them and go on.

This is the excitement the fans want and NASCAR intended.
 
So you're saying Gordon fans need to start holding up signs that read Gordon 4:20.
(For the non-wrestling fans, RVD fans hold up this sign. RVD 4:20 which means "I just smoked your ace"). :)
 
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