Cup RACE thread --- Texas

This has to be the weirdest race ever. Can't believe I was pulling for the 18 there at the end. I don't know how anyone could be a fan of that whiney lil female dog in the 19 car tho. That was irritating the whining from that guy. A champion of the sport. He expects people to just lay down and let him go on by. Wtf??? Lol
 
It's a true virtue of NASCAR that there are so relatively little team orders in play. There are many other forms of motorsports I consume in which the #18 finding a way to graciously hand the win off to the #19 to help the organization would be the de facto result. I'll always praise that. Nobody gives these Cup wins away.
 
I thought they were just providing extra audio for all the nerds ticked that Drone Racing got pre-empted.
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
This is the first time I have gotten the sense that Chase and co aren’t mentally tough enough. That sounded like his dejection after Dover when Kyle ran him down.
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Probably pissed that race went so long under caution when the shoe has been on the other foot so many times and cautions have gone against him. He also was running really competitive lap times and knew it was all for not. He's likely just sick of seeing stuff like this happen literally every year he's in this round.
 
Congrats to Kyle and the 18 crew.

I only saw the last 100 laps so was very let down that Kyle was wearing the union suit and not one that matched that awesome paint scheme.
 
10-4 said:
This has to be the weirdest race ever. Can't believe I was pulling for the 18 there at the end. I don't know how anyone could be a fan of that whiney lil female dog in the 19 car tho. That was irritating the whining from that guy. A champion of the sport. He expects people to just lay down and let him go on by. Wtf??? Lol
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Truex wears panties.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
Probably pissed that race went so long under caution when the shoe has been on the other foot so many times and cautions have gone against him. He also was running really competitive lap times and knew it was all for not. He's likely just sick of seeing stuff like this happen literally every year he's in this round.
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Gotta perform better in the regular season.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
Sounds like a team that consistently gets snake bitten in the round of 8 to me.
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Sounds like a team that doesn't have *it*/confidence/experience yet, I guess. Chase has had speed, but the fact is, he's still a full step below Kevin, Kyle, Brad, Joey, Denny, and Martin. I don't think championship expectations should be attached to him right now.

Round of 8 and a few wins should be his expectations with a wild card final 4 ceiling as of right now.

This was the first year the 9 showed elite speed most of the year. Id like to see them do what they did this year and correct some mistakes during the next 2-3 seasons before being a "contender".

Ultimately just not enough mileage under their belts.



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Dr_B_UNC said:
They’ll find it in tech and give win to MTJ, putting him in Finals.
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They should! Ive set more of those damn things then I care to remember and unless they can give me a reason why that sound was coming from the car, well...............
 
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jaqua19 said:
Sounds like a team that doesn't have *it*/confidence/experience yet, I guess. Chase has had speed, but the fact is, he's still a full step below Kevin, Kyle, Brad, Joey, Denny, and Martin. I don't think championship expectations should be attached to him right now.

Round of 8 and a few wins should be his expectations with a wild card final 4 ceiling as of right now.

This was the first year the 9 showed elite speed most of the year. Id like to see them do what they did this year and correct some mistakes during the next 2-3 seasons before being a "contender".

Ultimately just not enough mileage under their belts.



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I dunno why everyone is so down on the 9 team. What did I miss? He's GOOD at the paperclip. He ain't out til he's out.
 
10-4 said:
I dunno why everyone is so down on the 9 team. What did I miss? He's GOOD at the paperclip. He ain't out til he's out.
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If they can beat the 19, 11 or 22 it’ll be a miracle.
 
I believe his first cup race was at Martinsville. He said even the guys at the back were good. Lol. Look at him now.
 
gnomesayin said:
It's a true virtue of NASCAR that there are so relatively little team orders in play. There are many other forms of motorsports I consume in which the #18 finding a way to graciously hand the win off to the #19 to help the organization would be the de facto result. I'll always praise that. Nobody gives these Cup wins away.
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I only saw the last 30 laps but I'm honestly surprised there was no team orders. I'm glad, but I don't think every team would have raced it honestly like that
 
jaqua19 said:
Sounds like a team that doesn't have *it*/confidence/experience yet, I guess. Chase has had speed, but the fact is, he's still a full step below Kevin, Kyle, Brad, Joey, Denny, and Martin. I don't think championship expectations should be attached to him right now.

Round of 8 and a few wins should be his expectations with a wild card final 4 ceiling as of right now.

This was the first year the 9 showed elite speed most of the year. Id like to see them do what they did this year and correct some mistakes during the next 2-3 seasons before being a "contender".

Ultimately just not enough mileage under their belts.



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Explain to me how it sounds like a team that doesn't have *it*? They were vocally pissed about something bad happening (again) at a place that's given them trouble since the repave. And then basically saying it's time to pony up and get it done next week. Sounds like they know they can still perform to me.

Of course, your narrative all season - actually ever since he took the top spot at HMS from Jimmie - is that Chase doesn't have *it*, lacks car control, isn't a serious championship threat, and countless other things, so this take makes sense.
 
10-4 said:
This has to be the weirdest race ever. Can't believe I was pulling for the 18 there at the end. I don't know how anyone could be a fan of that whiney lil female dog in the 19 car tho. That was irritating the whining from that guy. A champion of the sport. He expects people to just lay down and let him go on by. Wtf??? Lol
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He has thrown the largest temper tantrums over people not laying down for him in his post race quotes out of any drivers In the last 5 years. Embarrassing.

He couldn't pass Stenhouse Jr at Atlanta I think a couple years ago and was ranting about it in the media that week...:laugh::laugh::laugh:
 
AdoubleU24 said:
Explain to me how it sounds like a team that doesn't have *it*? They were vocally pissed about something bad happening (again) at a place that's given them trouble since the repave. And then basically saying it's time to pony up and get it done next week. Sounds like they know they can still perform to me.

Of course, your narrative all season - actually ever since he took the top spot at HMS from Jimmie - is that Chase doesn't have *it*, lacks car control, isn't a serious championship threat, and countless other things, so this take makes sense.
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Don't be so defensive. And don't bring in things that have nothing to with what I said. They're a young team and new to having this kind of speed. Like any Championship team, reps are needed. This wasn't an ill willed post against Chase, and, specifically, it wasn't ill willed post towards you. So don't make it personal, like you have many times.

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jaqua19 said:
Sounds like a team that doesn't have *it*/confidence/experience yet, I guess. Chase has had speed, but the fact is, he's still a full step below Kevin, Kyle, Brad, Joey, Denny, and Martin. I don't think championship expectations should be attached to him right now.

Round of 8 and a few wins should be his expectations with a wild card final 4 ceiling as of right now.

This was the first year the 9 showed elite speed most of the year. Id like to see them do what they did this year and correct some mistakes during the next 2-3 seasons before being a "contender".

Ultimately just not enough mileage under their belts.



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Chase is 5th in total points. I don't know what you are talking about.
 
StandOnIt said:
Chase is 5th in total points. I don't know what you are talking about.
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Speaking of points, I notice they show Chase and Alex tied with 4095 points apiece but they show Chase in 5th and Alex in 6th but yet Alex finished 5th and Chase finished a lap down in 20th. So I'm curious why they are listing it in that order? It doesn't really make any difference, I'm just curious.
 
Nitro Dude said:
Speaking of points, I notice they show Chase and Alex tied with 4095 points apiece but they show Chase in 5th and Alex in 6th but yet Alex finished 5th and Chase finished a lap down in 20th. So I'm curious why they are listing it in that order? It doesn't really make any difference, I'm just curious.
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Highest finish of the round?
 
AdoubleU24 said:
Explain to me how it sounds like a team that doesn't have *it*? They were vocally pissed about something bad happening (again) at a place that's given them trouble since the repave. And then basically saying it's time to pony up and get it done next week. Sounds like they know they can still perform to me.

Of course, your narrative all season - actually ever since he took the top spot at HMS from Jimmie - is that Chase doesn't have *it*, lacks car control, isn't a serious championship threat, and countless other things, so this take makes sense.
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Ironic coming from a poster who’s favorite driver has half the championships he does due to a points reset and being allowed to catch back up, not peak performance all season.

Pit road penalties, untimely cautions and of course getting dumped by Kyle Busch lost Chase a ton of points throughout the season.
 
jaqua19 said:
Don't be so defensive. And don't bring in things that have nothing to with what I said. They're a young team and new to having this kind of speed. Like any Championship team, reps are needed. This wasn't an ill willed post against Chase, and, specifically, it wasn't ill willed post towards you. So don't make it personal, like you have many times.

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Chase isn’t new though and his team isn’t new. Chase has been a Cup driver since 2016, he’s about to complete his 5th full season. He’s 24 years old now and the lead driver of HMS, not a 20 year old rookie kid. Alan has been around forever since JG was his driver as well as I’m sure some of the 24 guys are still around on the 9 team. I just don’t buy what you’re selling on the team and Chase needing championship reps, their time is absolutely now. They’ve been the best Chevrolet team this year and the best driver at HMS (Bowman has done well too)Things change fast in racing, they have to start capitalizing on these Semi Final (last 8) opportunities because one of these years it might not be there, there’s always a new team or drivers on the rise that might take his spot one of these years. It happened to Kyle Busch this year. I will say their luck has been horrendous the last two years in the Round of 8 and at some point that has to turn around right? For whatever reason they just can’t find a way to get going in this round but that comes with needing to have about 2-3 more wins in the regular season for those playoff points that Harvick is using because he hasn’t exactly lit it up this round either. Those points come in handy and I think there in lies the problem....they need to win more races during the regular season to have those points banked up when needed. They just don’t have that right now. Chase is right there, he’s taking the steps needed to become a championship driver if he hasn’t already. The schedule next year lines up real nice for him with 6 Road Course races, I expect him to win 3 out of those 6 race
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Ironic coming from a poster who’s favorite driver has half the championships he does due to a points reset and being allowed to catch back up, not peak performance all season.

Pit road penalties, untimely cautions and of course getting dumped by Kyle Busch lost Chase a ton of points throughout the season.
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You’ll never not convince me JJ is the best Chase For The Sprint-Nextel Cup driver of all time. I say that with 60% snark and 40% respect to his accomplishments.
 
Nitro Dude said:
Speaking of points, I notice they show Chase and Alex tied with 4095 points apiece but they show Chase in 5th and Alex in 6th but yet Alex finished 5th and Chase finished a lap down in 20th. So I'm curious why they are listing it in that order? It doesn't really make any difference, I'm just curious.
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Tie breaker goes to wins
 
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