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If I were those two, I'd either sit out during their respective 150 or I'd start and park. They have to start at the back anyways for the 500.
 
Their Hendrick customer engines may not finish the race anyway lol
 
They'd probably get as much media coverage if they did race.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Are they both locked into the field? I know Tony would be because he's a past champion but where did Danica finish last year?
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Tony is, Danica isn't. Drivers locked in are Dillon and Truex (front row), Biffle, Edwards, Newman, and Keselowski (fast times), Johnson, Kenseth, Busch, Junior, Gordon, and Bowyer (owner's points), and Stewart (most recent champ since Kes timed in and Jimmie pointsed in).
 
ztevans said:
Tony is, Danica isn't. Drivers locked in are Dillon and Truex (front row), Biffle, Edwards, Newman, and Keselowski (fast times), Johnson, Kenseth, Busch, Junior, Gordon, and Bowyer (owner's points), and Stewart (most recent champ since Kes timed in).
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So Danica has no choice but to finish at least 3 or four spots from the rear in her duel no?
 
They have to start at the back for their Duel race, not the 500. After the Duels and before happy hour, everybody will have a engine change without penalty.
 
Thegroundpounder99 said:
They have to start at the back for their Duel race, not the 500. After the Duels and before happy hour, everybody will have a engine change without penalty.
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Because all three drivers had what NASCAR termed "unapproved" engine changes, Stewart, Patrick and Labonte will all have to drop to the rear of the field prior to the start of the Daytona 500 and will begin the race at the back of the pack.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nascar/story/stewart-patrick-lose-engines-in-daytona-500-practice-021514
 
Thegroundpounder99 said:
Being penalized twice for one blown engine doesn't make much sense to me. Especially when everybody is gonna change them after the Duels.:confused:
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I think it is more along the lines of competition, to keep them from changing 5 engines, Helps the smaller teams to compete if they know everyone has the same rules in changing engines.
Understand your point as well. Just My Opinion
 
ToyYoda said:
There's no way in hell NASCAR lets Danica miss the 500.
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She could pull a...well, a Danica...and crash out like last year, no? :)

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I disagree.. More practice with the obvious changes to the Daytona package will be a good thing, esp. for Danica. Wanna see how fast you can move up the field and stay out of trouble.
 
I don't understand why they were penalized to start in the back of the 500 for blowing the engine's in practice? Since they hadn't qualified yet, they should be able to race to a better position in the duels. Another dumb rule NASCAR has come up with...
 
DSquad48 said:
She could pull a...well, a Danica...and crash out like last year, no? :)

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These pictures are actually from two years ago, but Brian France might go the Jeff Gordon route and write in a 44th starting spot for Danica if she doesn't make it in ;)
 
Restrictor Plate King! said:
I don't understand why they were penalized to start in the back of the 500 for blowing the engine's in practice? Since they hadn't qualified yet, they should be able to race to a better position in the duels. Another dumb rule NASCAR has come up with...
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I think you can only change the engine after the duels.. I know during this week they can use 2.. but I think they have to practice and qualify the same one and are allowed to change it before the race... so I think its just that she didn't qualify with the engine she will race with... they still may change it again... if not I wouldn't be surprised if she blows up again in the 500.
 
I guess it's because qualifying for the 500 is so convoluted it's impossible to separate it. You get 2 chances to set your starting position, time qualifying and one of the duels.

BamaFan said:
I think it is more along the lines of competition, to keep them from changing 5 engines, Helps the smaller teams to compete if they know everyone has the same rules in changing engines.
Understand your point as well. Just My Opinion
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Yep. Big teams would look at the time sheet and decide they have no chance at P1 or P2 and change the engine to get an advantage in the duel. Knowing these teams, they would build a real fast engine designed to run just practice and time Q, then put in an engine designed to run just the duel without practice laps.
 
ToyYoda said:
These pictures are actually from two years ago, but Brian France might go the Jeff Gordon route and write in a 44th starting spot for Danica if she doesn't make it in ;)
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Boy, how time flies, my bad! She was locked in on points in 2012, right?
 
ToyYoda said:
IIRC, the Tommy Baldwin Racing points got her in. I could be mistaken though.
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Yeah I think so...and last year she was in on the pole. But if she crashed out in the duel on Thursday like she did in 2012 she'd be out of the 500, no?
 
DSquad48 said:
Yeah I think so...and last year she was in on the pole. But if she crashed out in the duel on Thursday like she did in 2012 she'd be out of the 500, no?
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Almost certainly. There's the chance that her time would hold up against other people who don't finish in the top 15, but she's certainly not in a position to start-and-park and hope the faster drivers race their way in and don't crash themselves IMO.
 
I would honestly be happy starting at the rear of the field because you can avoid the big crashes that happen towards the "dreaded" middle lane or pack without getting slammed into. But I have a feeling this is going to be Danica trying to avoid one of those "big ones"
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No start and park thursday due to the everybody try real hard hunered percent rule.


Now as a preventative measure Brian will have to add the duels into the win and you are in the playoff sweet 16 eliminations tournament World Series Bowl Super Duper Chase for the title sweepstakes Nascar Sprint Cup championship.
 
ToyYoda said:
These pictures are actually from two years ago, but Brian France might go the Jeff Gordon route and write in a 44th starting spot for Danica if she doesn't make it in ;)
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If he does it for Jeff Gordon , won't the Danica fans be mad ?
 
ted@economy said:
If he does it for Jeff Gordon , won't the Danica fans be mad ?
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You scared of this? ;)

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I think drivers want time on the track under race conditions. Running the duals gives them a chance to get used to the race conditions for the 500 and for those locked in, if they mess up they get a mulligan.
 
This is not even a discussion.
1. Danica needs the track time.
2. Tony hasn't passed up a race in his life. He's pushed over women and children to be first on line at Walmart.
3. Both have sponsor obligations.
 
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