Daytona Coke Zero Sugar 400 Pre-Race thread

Wonder what happened with Jonathan Cohen’s 44 team and the HBCU sponsorships
 
One of my favorite races on the calendar. Here are some former winners of the FireCracker/Pepsi/Coke Zero 400
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I love this Championship format. Saturday night cut off at Daytona is epic, and 100% better than the Fourth of July date IMO. I cannot wait. Let's do this Bubba!
 
I like Daytona and I know I'm probably in the minority with this but I think this is possibly the worst place we could have for a the regular season finale. Do we really want to decide who ends up in the playoffs at a track that a driver must rely on "help" from others to win and it's been shown literally anyone can win here? From an entertainment standpoint its good, but from a competition standpoint I don't care for it.
 
I like Daytona and I know I'm probably in the minority with this but I think this is possibly the worst place we could have for a the regular season finale. Do we really want to decide who ends up in the playoffs at a track that a driver must rely on "help" from others to win and it's been shown literally anyone can win here? From an entertainment standpoint its good, but from a competition standpoint I don't care for it.
I hear you, but this is a sport based on a level playing field. Is there any place on the calendar where the playing field is more level than Daytona?....and to have the very expression of what NASCAR is on the race to determine who will run for the championships seems fitting IMO.
 
I hear you, but this is a sport based on a level playing field. Is there any place on the calendar where the playing field is more level than Daytona?....and to have the very expression of what NASCAR is on the race to determine who will run for the championships seems fitting IMO.
Unless your name is Truex or Blaney, if you make the playoffs only by winning at Daytona on the last night, you’re not getting past the first round anyway.
 
Unless your name is Truex or Blaney, if you make the playoffs only by winning at Daytona on the last night, you’re not getting past the first round anyway.
But is it worth keeping 2 guys out of the playoffs that can potentially make a deep run because someone else won at Daytona on the last night?
 
But is it worth keeping 2 guys out of the playoffs that can potentially make a deep run because someone else won at Daytona on the last night?
What do the rules say?

In one post you lament “manipulation” and now you’re suggesting it. Make up your mind.
 
But is it worth keeping 2 guys out of the playoffs that can potentially make a deep run because someone else won at Daytona on the last night?
Truex and to some extent Blaney have shown all season they probably wont be making a deep run even if they made the playoffs. Blaney has been consistent and is 3rd in the standings but he will be in such a hole when the reset happens due to playoff points and wins that I dont see his stay lasting long even if he makes it.
 
But is it worth keeping 2 guys out of the playoffs that can potentially make a deep run because someone else won at Daytona on the last night?
Not to me, but then it’s been years since I thought the Daytona oval was worth running at all. I don’t have the power to change the rules or the schedule.
 
Unless your name is Truex or Blaney, if you make the playoffs only by winning at Daytona on the last night, you’re not getting past the first round anyway.
Quit making sense and talking reality. Go full gerbil..This driver came out of nowhere, think Cinderella team, can they go all they way...points matter.
 
Truex and to some extent Blaney have shown all season they probably wont be making a deep run even if they made the playoffs. Blaney has been consistent and is 3rd in the standings but he will be in such a hole when the reset happens due to playoff points and wins that I dont see his stay lasting long even if he makes it.
Unless I'm looking at the points wrong Blaney would currently be 8th in the playoff standings, so I think that gives him a legitimate chance.
 
NBC affiliates that may have NFL conflicts in case you want to check your local listings…the race is getting moved to the CW here, looks like Peacock is also simulcasting it:

WFLA 8 Tampa
WESH 2 Orlando
WRC 4 Washington
WBAL 11 Baltimore
WCAU 10 Philadelphia
WBBH 2 Fort Meyers
KPNX 12 Phoenix
WRCB 3 Chattanooga
WHO 13 Des Moines
 
If everything else fails find a USA stream, I have been having to do that all NBC season long. Find more than one because at least in my neck of the woods some are less clunky than others. Search Reddit Nascar and Reddit/streams, google works also.
 
From an entertainment standpoint its good, but from a competition standpoint I don't care for it.
I don't understand why there is supposed to be a difference between an entertainment standpoint and a competition standpoint.
If there is a good competition it will provide entertainment.
Truex and to some extent Blaney have shown all season they probably wont be making a deep run even if they made the playoffs. Blaney has been consistent and is 3rd in the standings but he will be in such a hole when the reset happens due to playoff points and wins that I dont see his stay lasting long even if he makes it.
3rd in the standings would get Blaney 11 playoff points, he definitely has the chance to have a good run.
 
I don't understand why there is supposed to be a difference between an entertainment standpoint and a competition standpoint.
If there is a good competition it will provide entertainment.

3rd in the standings would get Blaney 11 playoff points, he definitely has the chance to have a good run.
Maybe. I wouldnt bet the farm on it though. There are faster teams (as of now) that will get much needed wins plus playoff points when it matters. I do agree its preposterous at 3rd in regular season points he could miss the playoffs entirely, his regular season should count for something when its all said and done, not be at the mercy of Casino Daytona.
 
I don't understand why there is supposed to be a difference between an entertainment standpoint and a competition standpoint.
If there is a good competition it will provide entertainment.
Racing is a competition.

Entertainment is hitting people with folding chairs. Make sense?
 
This stick and ball points system was designed to take the wheel holders so to speak out of the playoffs along with other things. Every year football fans eat this stuff up. It will never work in racing very well..but here we are.
Another issue that the playoffs clumsily address is Elliott is so damn far ahead of everybody else the wheels would have to fall off at this point in the season to keep him from winning the cup if there wasn't the fake drama they have created. This is the reason they came up with this B.S. in the first place. It is what it is. We are supposed to ignore that fact if Elliott doesn't win in the final four ****up.
 
NBC affiliates that may have NFL conflicts in case you want to check your local listings…the race is getting moved to the CW here, looks like Peacock is also simulcasting it:

WFLA 8 Tampa
WESH 2 Orlando
WRC 4 Washington
WBAL 11 Baltimore
WCAU 10 Philadelphia
WBBH 2 Fort Meyers
KPNX 12 Phoenix
WRCB 3 Chattanooga
WHO 13 Des Moines
Checking WHO 13 Des Moines, and they are showing the Cup race on their network.
 
NBC affiliates that may have NFL conflicts in case you want to check your local listings…the race is getting moved to the CW here, looks like Peacock is also simulcasting it:

WFLA 8 Tampa
WESH 2 Orlando
WRC 4 Washington
WBAL 11 Baltimore
WCAU 10 Philadelphia
WBBH 2 Fort Meyers
KPNX 12 Phoenix
WRCB 3 Chattanooga
WHO 13 Des Moines

Well that sucks! WFLA 8 Tampa can KMA.
 
Daytona has installed LED scoring pylons. Finally. I've been begging for them to do that for years, the old ones were so outdated.

Unfortunately for me, I just moved from Tampa to AZ last month so no Daytona for me for a while. Super bummed. On the bright side maybe I can catch this final 4 this year in Phoenix lol.
 
Daytona has installed LED scoring pylons. Finally. I've been begging for them to do that for years, the old ones were so outdated.

Unfortunately for me, I just moved from Tampa to AZ last month so no Daytona for me for a while. Super bummed. On the bright side maybe I can catch this final 4 this year in Phoenix lol.
Well I hope you already got your tickets considering its sold out
 
Unless I'm looking at the points wrong Blaney would currently be 8th in the playoff standings, so I think that gives him a legitimate chance.
I think Truex would also be around 9th with the reset, he has the most stage wins this season.
 
But is it worth keeping 2 guys out of the playoffs that can potentially make a deep run because someone else won at Daytona on the last night?
Yes, because they had 26 other races to get into the playoffs. If they are not in by now, then what makes you think they would have any more of a chance for a deep run than anyone else?
 
Cars dont wreck themselves. Choices
Tracks don't schedule themselves. NASCAR makes choices too. Daytona delivers big ratings, and one (the main?) reason is because casual fans like big multi-car wrecks. NASCAR didn't have to make this the cutoff race, but NBC on a Saturday night before college ball starts, ya know?
 
Tracks don't schedule themselves. NASCAR makes choices too. Daytona delivers big ratings, and one (the main?) reason is because casual fans like big multi-car wrecks. NASCAR didn't have to make this the cutoff race, but NBC on a Saturday night before college ball starts, ya know?
No, you are right it doesnt have to be a cutoff race but money matters in this sport and you need A LOT of it and TV helps keep it alive
 
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