Did they get 'em?

Originally posted by DEF3
"sniper psyche"- what's that? shoot and hide?

not too hard a role to play......:mad:

Very hard to play IMHO. Goes well beyond shoot and hide.

It involves hundreds of decisions and skills beyond those of marksmanship. Far more to it than I really can relate in enough detail here to make clear.

Maybe I can dig up some stuff I can link if you are truly interested. However if your mind is set on the simplicity of it there is really nothing I or anyone else can say to change that.

Paul - I related the armed populace only to this instance. How could an armed populace have protected itself against an adversary they never saw?
 
HS, because these guys were able to operate on the fact that there was nothing the populace could do.

The only people they had to worry about were the police.

I'm sure they would have thought twice about picking women and children off in the streets were we a society that was able to protect itself.

I'm growing tired of the Columbine-defenseless-fish-in-a-gunless-barrell incidents.
 
Maybe, but if they were not worried about anyone other than the police, why did no one else see them? And if no one else saw them, what difference would it have made how heavily armed that person might have been.

That is part of the "sniper psyche". You are invisible and therefore unassailable.
 
didn't mean it was simple- just that it isn't hard to play the role....

most profilers were describing them as intelligent psychos with a hidden agenda and not disgruntled morons out for money they'd never get to spend....
 
What if someone had spotted them after or during their first attack?

Unarmed all that person can do is run away hoping not to get shot.

Armed and with a brain the sniper wouldn't have gotten 8 more people.
 
Let me try a different explanation.

Motive, Opportunity, Means

Motive - OK you have it. You want to stop a killer.

Means - OK you are armed.

Opportunity - You don't have it. And no else in this case dd either.

What IF? - The sniper does not believe in you, he believes in in himself. He believes that he is invisible. You have no warning of his immediate presence. He believes you never will. Once the target is acquired there is one shot and one shot only. The only warning you have is the target drops. Drops before you even hear the sound of the shot. Once that split second of openness is past, the sniper believes he once again invisible and then he is gone. It is not a matter of what you or I or any number of other people believe, it is what the sniper believes. His belief is that your being armed or unarmed is of no consequence. And he believes in his skill to make that true. Often times he is right. It is that which has made the sniper an effective military instrument for centuries.
 
well, yeah, if you are a coward shooting through a hole from inside the trunk of a car- yeah, you are invisible.......

you don't have to run and hide, just ride away on the interstate......
 
Concealment and one shot theory is the difference between a sniper and a shooter.
Real hard to locate from the sound, with just one shot. And not easy to see due to concealment or camouflage.
 
Originally posted by paul
Nothing is to stop them, so long as our Second Ammendment right is constantly being infringed.

Real "liberal" huh?

Paul, I did not mean to imply that you are a liberal. Just that the viewpoint you are taking here is a very liberal viewpoint, nothing more. You have shown yourself to be a very complex and thoughtful person. One whom I don't always agree with, but also one who's viewpoint I almost always respect.
 
Not very long, unless the arguement was about his greatest song ever. I would have to say "Life Without You". But, "Pride and Joy" would be a very close second.:)
 
I agree. As well as Voodoo Chile (Slight Return), Cold Shot, The Sky Is Cryin', Leave My Little Girl Alone, Tightrope, and many more.
 
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