Does Nascar need a champion?

Revman said:
Absolutely. Problem is that all of the merchandising folks would sh!t their drawers with pre-Champ stock. Those numbers matter apparently. Can you imagine Poop Poop pooping his drawers over having to give up the "3" after all of the BS if Watch Holder wins it all?
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How dumb do we think these fans are that we need to put a #1 on the car just to tell the driver is the champion. Next thing you know we'll be highlighting the Chase contenders in Yellow just to make them stand out.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
How dumb do we think these fans are that we need to put a #1 on the car just to tell the driver is the champion. Next thing you know we'll be highlighting the Chase contenders in Yellow just to make them stand out.
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Naw, man, it's not for the fans, it's for the dude behind the wheel. Think of it as a full season of a crotch grabbin' come and getcha some of this statement.
 
I was just thinking this subject the other day, and I am glad you posted it. I am not so sure if Nascar needs a Driver's Champion. Maybe keep the owners championship so that the owners will keep fielding cars every race, but do with out the Drivers championship. I say still have your awards banquet, hand out your awards, and maybe hand out a Best Drivers Award like a series MVP of a sorts. Something not determined by the points, but possibly voted on by the media, and or fans. Although if we let the fans vote then it would be Jr every year, lol. Also hand out an award and maybe a huge monetary prize for the driver who ends up with the most wins at the end of the season. I say if the drivers know they might win a few million dollars at the end of the year for winning the most, that might just give them that extra hunger to give it their all each race.
 
Yes, Nascar needs a champion. Traditionally the driver that had the best year was the champion. With the chase, all that changed. The chase rewarded the driver that got "hot" at the end of the year. Not a great way to choose who had the best year, but that was the way it was done. The system they have now, completely ignores how good of a year a driver has. It also ignores a driver that has gotten "hot" at the end of the year. What the current system does, is reward drivers that were lucky enough to not get in a couple of crashes, and finish ahead of other drivers, three races at a time. Don't believe me, have eliminations after every other race, and see how much the field changes. If you must have a "playoff" format, pick the names of drivers from a hat, pair them up, and run them against each other. Who ever finishes ahead of the other moves on, until the last race of the year. That would, at least for me, be a more fair "playoff" than what they have now. If you don't care who had the best season that's fine, the current system will do fine. Like all of you, this is just my opinion, and is neither right or wrong. Most importantly, it doesn't make a damned bit of difference of who will be crowned champion this week, but a champion there must be!
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
How dumb do we think these fans are that we need to put a #1 on the car just to tell the driver is the champion. Next thing you know we'll be highlighting the Chase contenders in Yellow just to make them stand out.
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That idea comes from supercross.

I think it's rather obnoxious myself. Those guys actually have a number of their own but if you win the championship you get your old number raplace by a #1 plate for the whole year.
 
Yogisd1 said:
Yes, Nascar needs a champion. Traditionally the driver that had the best year was the champion. With the chase, all that changed. The chase rewarded the driver that got "hot" at the end of the year. Not a great way to choose who had the best year, but that was the way it was done. The system they have now, completely ignores how good of a year a driver has. It also ignores a driver that has gotten "hot" at the end of the year. What the current system does, is reward drivers that were lucky enough to not get in a couple of crashes, and finish ahead of other drivers, three races at a time. Don't believe me, have eliminations after every other race, and see how much the field changes. If you must have a "playoff" format, pick the names of drivers from a hat, pair them up, and run them against each other. Who ever finishes ahead of the other moves on, until the last race of the year. That would, at least for me, be a more fair "playoff" than what they have now. If you don't care who had the best season that's fine, the current system will do fine. Like all of you, this is just my opinion, and is neither right or wrong. Most importantly, it doesn't make a damned bit of difference of who will be crowned champion this week, but a champion there must be!
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That's the point 17D is making in his original post.

The new format (Not just the chase) is tellling you to get wins, wins and more wins. Not to worry about being consistent or lead the points at any point during the year.
 
Reck said:
That's the point 17D is making in his original post.

The new format (Not just the chase) is tellling you to get wins, wins and more wins. Not to worry about being consistent or lead the points at any point during the year.
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Where is it saying that?
 
I bet if you asked the drivers...without fail they would want a champ. I agree. Crown the best
 
Reck said:
That idea comes from supercross.

I think it's rather obnoxious myself. Those guys actually have a number of their own but if you win the championship you get your old number raplace by a #1 plate for the whole year.
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Dude they were doing that long before they had motorcross, much less supercross. Look up A.M.A. o_O
 
Reck said:
That's the point 17D is making in his original post.

The new format (Not just the chase) is tellling you to get wins, wins and more wins. Not to worry about being consistent or lead the points at any point during the year.
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I didn't understand it that way at all. It was win and your in "emphasis on winning races" I believe was Nascar's quote. Along with the points being reset for each round of the chase races, win and you advance, but highest finishes in the rounds and open chase spots not filled by winners go to the highest consistent points racers. It was all laid out well before the season started. It was one part of the season to get in the chase, and then reset, switch gears, and race the chase format. Some are having a hard time grasping or accepting that it seems.
 
Reck said:
That's the point 17D is making in his original post.

The new format (Not just the chase) is tellling you to get wins, wins and more wins. Not to worry about being consistent or lead the points at any point during the year.
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That's why I think the bonus points should apply all the way to Phoenix instead of losing them after Dover. It would certainly make those regular season wins mean a lot more. Sure, those bonus points come in handy in the first round when you're staving off the likes of Greg Biffle and Aric Almirola, but in the later rounds is where they'd really be beneficial. Probably won't happen though because I guess it's more drama if everyone starts each round tied.
 
Greg said:
Should the revision number be included? Kind of like:
Windows 95
Windows 98
Vista
Windows 7
Windows 8
etc.....
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Yeah, sure, I get it. At the same time, if you chose to read it, it's clear to see how things get misrepresented from what was actually said. That was the only reason I posted it.
 
ToyYoda said:
That's why I think the bonus points should apply all the way to Phoenix instead of losing them after Dover. It would certainly make those regular season wins mean a lot more. Sure, those bonus points come in handy in the first round when you're staving off the likes of Greg Biffle and Aric Almirola, but in the later rounds is where they'd really be beneficial. Probably won't happen though because I guess it's more drama if everyone starts each round tied.
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This...If nascar is so hell bent on having a playoff and making wins count, the wins should at least count all the way through the season.

With that being said.

Go Newman!!!!
 
Greg said:
Should the revision number be included? Kind of like:
Windows 95
Windows 98
Vista
Windows 7
Windows 8
etc.....
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Windows 98 rocked.
Vista was introduced & it was full of flaws & highly controversial
Windows 7 came out & people were used to the system but with minimal complaints
Then windows 8 revolutionized the system again, changed things for no good reason & people were up in arms.

This seems eerily familiar...
 
not sure but i think the 4 remaining drivers sure do need a championship
 
Does NASCAR need a Champion?

That's actually an interesting question. After kicking it around a bit I have to think that having a Champion is necessary in that it gives everyone a common goal and having a points system keeps drivers from being too reckless due to a need to score points.
 
sdj said:
Question was Does Nascar need a champion?

Yes, if not, then it might as well be like the current youth soccer and tee ball where everybody wins, gets a trophy and cookies and milk.
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Drivers would still win individual races and fans could still continue to see their driver as the true champion, as many do now. That way no undeserving driver would ever be Cup holder again.

Keep in mind that I don't expect this to ever happen but it doesn't hurt to have a bit of fun with something so devisive :)
 
I dunno, maybe I'm not a particularly creative thinker, but why not race from February til November, then award the "championship" to the driver/team with the most points. Award one point based on finishing position, a point for most laps led and five points for the win... add 'em all up after the last race of the season and ya got yer champion.

I know, I KNOW... too simple, so I guess it's a good thing I ain't runnin' NASCAR.
 
I think if you are confused, watch the race Sunday and you will be able to figure it out hopefully.
 
StandOnIt said:
I think if you are confused, watch the race Sunday and you will be able to figure it out hopefully.
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Yeah, yer probably right. It's all too much for simple Ol' Unca Honu to figure out... hopefully somebody who's smarter than me will explain it all.
 
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