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KulwickiFan
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What do you think about double-file restarts on the road course this weekend? Should make things very interesting heading up that big hill towards the first corner.
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basscatcher89
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Is the rule still that the leader gets the choice of outside or inside lane? That will be interesting to see who gets pissed with who on that.
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foehammer111
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From my understanding, the rule will be the same on road courses as it is on ovals. Including the leader picking if he starts on the inside or outside.
I think the double-file restarts rule is needed more for the road courses then the ovals. It's so hard to pass on road courses, that the double-file starts will make the race that much more exciting.
Juan Montoya is my early pick to win this weekend. I think these restarts will really play into his hands.
I think the double-file restarts rule is needed more for the road courses then the ovals. It's so hard to pass on road courses, that the double-file starts will make the race that much more exciting.
Juan Montoya is my early pick to win this weekend. I think these restarts will really play into his hands.
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Gordon_Fan24
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The last two weeks the drivers have gotten used to panning out 3 and 4 wide with the double file restarts..that certianly won't be the case this week. I think that in some cases we could see several wrecks and spin outs coming from this due to the width of the track.
I can't wait to see this.
It's going to be very interesting.
It's going to be very interesting.
MRM
Team Owner
They don't have many cautions there, but should be interesting and entertaining.
+2I can't wait to see this.
It's going to be very interesting.
I think the cup cars will look more like super lates as they go through the dirt uphill...
If Robby, Juan, and a few others whom I won't name all populate the top 5 on a restart....
None of the top 10 will get through unscathed.
wilson89
Team Owner
Its going to be great, i can see alot of off track racing coming from this. Im also waiting to Daytona should be interesting at the restrictor plate tracks as well.
There's going to be bent sheet metal and bent feelings.
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GREAT AMERICAN RACE FAN
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I love the double file, and it's going to get a lot better this weekend. Lot's of "Agricultural Racing" on Sunday, I forget who coined that phrase, maybe Buffet Benny
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foehammer111
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I watched the re-run of the 2007 race at Infineon last night.
I forgot how great of a race that was. Watching McMurray and Montoya duel for the lead in the last 15 laps while both were several laps short on fuel was awesome.
You just don't see racing like that in F1. It's races like this that make me wish there were more road courses on the schedule. Can you imagine the drivers going through the corkscrew at Laguna Seca, or the bumpy last turn at Sebring?
I forgot how great of a race that was. Watching McMurray and Montoya duel for the lead in the last 15 laps while both were several laps short on fuel was awesome.
You just don't see racing like that in F1. It's races like this that make me wish there were more road courses on the schedule. Can you imagine the drivers going through the corkscrew at Laguna Seca, or the bumpy last turn at Sebring?
VaDirt
Dirt Track Fanatic
Man, the corkscrew would be brutal with some full bodied cars hitting it.
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Digger
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Yeah, neither of those would work.
I think New Jersey and Portland would be great additions to the schedule. Camping World Series already races at Portland, and the ARCA ReMax Series races at New Jersey's Thunderbolt course.
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foehammer111
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Yeah, probably not. There'd be 43 splitters at the bottom of the corkscrew on the first lap.
VIR and Road America would be a good additions too.
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Digger
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Yeah, probably not. There'd be 43 splitters at the bottom of the corkscrew on the first lap.
VIR and Road America would be a good additions too.
Road America -- IDK how that would work.
VIR sucks. The Grand-Am races there are THE most boring races of the year. And they've already got races at Richmond, Martinsville and Bristol.
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Digger
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On this weekend's race, I'm not betting against Schrub. I hope he smashes the Infineon trophy. 
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foehammer111
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On this weekend's race, I'm not betting against Schrub. I hope he smashes the Infineon trophy.
I think he'll end up drinking the trophy. It does have several wine bottles.
At least the race/qualifying won't be affected by rain this weekend.
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foehammer111
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road america would be took. Sebring maybe...i think it's too narrow. Laguna would be worse than the brickyard last year. VIR is too narrow. NJMP..maybe. Portland I could go for. And montreal and mosport.
mike honcho
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Digger
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Bristol happens to be in TENNESSEE thank you very much MrMarquis
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I think all three of you missed the point.
Bristol, Martinsville and VIR are all within three and a half hours of each other. VIR is also within three hours drive of Richmond. And all three of those tracks (Martinsville, Bristol and Richmond) have two Cup dates already.
The Southern Virginia/Eastern Tennessee market has MORE than enough races. And considering Martinsville is having enough trouble drawing in crowds, there's no reason NASCAR should even think about giving VIR a race -- especially when people in the Northwest (Portland, Seattle, Boise, etc.) are begging for a NASCAR race. They don't even have a Nationwide or Truck race up there.
The only national series that truly has a great schedule is NHRA.
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Digger
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In fact, while the Trucks race at Martinsville (x2), Kentucky, Nashville and Atlanta, I'm still waiting for my Truck Series race.
The one Friday afternoon Dover race doesn't count since it's on, well, a Friday afternoon.
I'm also waiting for a Camping World Series race, an ARCA race, a CRA race and an ASA race. Only thing we got here that's not boring ass Cup or Nationwide is World of Outlaws and I-HRA Drag Racing (which is basically nothing now).
The one Friday afternoon Dover race doesn't count since it's on, well, a Friday afternoon.
I'm also waiting for a Camping World Series race, an ARCA race, a CRA race and an ASA race. Only thing we got here that's not boring ass Cup or Nationwide is World of Outlaws and I-HRA Drag Racing (which is basically nothing now).
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foehammer111
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I think all three of you missed the point.
I understood what you were getting at. I was just giving you a hard time.
But I don't have a problem with several races being in the Virginia area. Those fans have been good to NASCAR, and they diserve to have multiple races. Unlike the fans in Atlanta and So-Cal.
I just don't think there should be any single track should have multiple races. That undermines the importance of each track IMHO. Some areas like Portland should have a race, but definately not NYC. As much as I think it would be good for the sport, the whiney fans there have proved they can only understand sticks and balls.
I say let them keep A-Rod as role models for their kids. We have real heroes like Mark Martin.
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Digger
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I'm not in New York, I'm in Washington. And our market shows that we deserve more than what we get everytime there is a national race. Notice MARYLAND was one of only two tracks ever to get a second Pinks All Out race. And that track's in the middle of nowhere.
The New JErsey track I bring up isn't the New York market, it's Philly/Atlantic City. And they had more people show up for Grand-Am than Nashville Superspeedway had for NASCAR.
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WNY24Fan
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Don't include all of us in that NYC category. Where I live couldn't be more different than the NYC and Long Island areas. Here in the west, we love our racing, short tracks and our road course. Would love to see an oval somewhere either in Central or Western Upstate. They get goofy and can't decide whether The Glen is Central, Upstate or Finger Lakes. Depends on who's doing the reporting I guess.
Those double-file restarts should be very interesting to say the least at Infineon. They're talking about turn 2 being a problem there. I can't wait to see all the action at turn 1 at The Glen. I bet there will be a bunch of cars sliding our getting spun down there and I'll have a really good view.
Those double-file restarts should be very interesting to say the least at Infineon. They're talking about turn 2 being a problem there. I can't wait to see all the action at turn 1 at The Glen. I bet there will be a bunch of cars sliding our getting spun down there and I'll have a really good view.
PORTLAND?!!! We already have enough tracks that get rained-out!!
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Digger
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blue92
Team Owner
All I can say is about time NASCAR went back to the double-file starts, I never understood why lapped cars were up front in the 1st place.
Nascar won't ever run more road courses as long as the announcers keep siding with nascar that they don't need more road courses. Isn't the 24 Hours of Daytona run at Daytona? How about the 2nd race of the season at Daytone be on the road course. There's also a sweet road course at TMS so they could fun the road course there one of the 2 races there. I'd love to see nascar do Monte Carlo, in my mind that would be an awesome race. There's also a sweet fairly new road course just out of Alanta, I've seen some Rolex races there and I think nascar could do well at that track.
Nascar won't ever run more road courses as long as the announcers keep siding with nascar that they don't need more road courses. Isn't the 24 Hours of Daytona run at Daytona? How about the 2nd race of the season at Daytone be on the road course. There's also a sweet road course at TMS so they could fun the road course there one of the 2 races there. I'd love to see nascar do Monte Carlo, in my mind that would be an awesome race. There's also a sweet fairly new road course just out of Alanta, I've seen some Rolex races there and I think nascar could do well at that track.
the tms course is just a roval loop that connects to the backstretch..nothing spectacular.
blue92
Team Owner
I've never been on it but a bunch of my friends have and they say it's a nice road course. Ever been on Motor Sport Ranch's track in Creson just out of Ft. Worth on the way to Granbury off 377?
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John Galt
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You don't remember when Hershel McGriff took his Dodge Wedge and Junie Donlevey took a Grand Torino to run the 24 Hours of Lemans in the 70's? It was an interesting experiment that raised a lot of eyebrows as I remember. They had a rotten result because of mandated low octane fuel if I remember correctly.
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John Galt
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I have a question WNYfan... How are they going to handle the chicane on the yellow flag lap taking the green? It seems to me that the distance from the chicane to the line isn't all that far and it'll be tough for then to double up after single filing it. . I don't see any way they'll go through the chicane double wide.Don't include all of us in that NYC category. Where I live couldn't be more different than the NYC and Long Island areas. Here in the west, we love our racing, short tracks and our road course. Would love to see an oval somewhere either in Central or Western Upstate. They get goofy and can't decide whether The Glen is Central, Upstate or Finger Lakes. Depends on who's doing the reporting I guess.
Those double-file restarts should be very interesting to say the least at Infineon. They're talking about turn 2 being a problem there. I can't wait to see all the action at turn 1 at The Glen. I bet there will be a bunch of cars sliding our getting spun down there and I'll have a really good view.
Thoughts?
It's about 3/4 of a mile. They can double up plenty fast. And i think they've always gone through the chican double wie with the lap down cars?
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John Galt
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OK. I'll take your word for it. Question answered. Thanks for responding.
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In fact, while the Trucks race at Martinsville (x2), Kentucky, Nashville and Atlanta, I'm still waiting for my Truck Series race.
The one Friday afternoon Dover race doesn't count since it's on, well, a Friday afternoon.
I'm also waiting for a Camping World Series race, an ARCA race, a CRA race and an ASA race. Only thing we got here that's not boring ass Cup or Nationwide is World of Outlaws and I-HRA Drag Racing (which is basically nothing now).
I thought you were unemployed. Did you find a job already? If not then what's wrong with Friday afternoon? Sounds like a good start to the weekend.
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing
Team Owner
I live in New York City and have watched Nascar all of my life and so has my father who passed my love for it down to me, to say that we shouldn't get a track is ignorant. There are tons of Nascars fans in this area, the majority of us have to travel to Pocono, which isn't a great place to watch a race and Dover, which is one of my favorites. Watkins Glen doesn't really count cause it's almost a 5hr drive. Most of the fans in the NYC area travel to those 3 tracks.
I have been to both Dover and Pocano, I haven't been to Watkins Glen because I have no real desire to go to a road course to watch a race, I'd much rather watch it on tv. I've also been to Michigan, Bristol, the Milwaukee Mile and Indy for the 500 and I plan on heading to Chicagoland in a few weeks. To say the NYC area doesn't have race fans is just not true.
Also everyone looking up to A-rod? Really? Half the city hates the yankees in the first place cause they are Mets fans and a-rod gets killed by the papers and most yanks fans all the time.
For awhile they were actually trying to build a track on Staten Island, one of the 5 boroughs of nyc but it fell threw mainly because that island is overpopulated enough and traffic would have been a disaster for it.
There isn't much room for a track here but if we ever did get one I'd guarantee that they wouldn't have any problems selling the place out every time.