HoneyBadger
I love short track racing (Taylor's Version)
http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/official/07/21/cedwards.bkeselowski.penalties/index.html
What's the point? Edwards should be sitting out at Indianapolis and IRP.
Edwards penalty
- Thread starter HoneyBadger
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http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/headlines/official/07/21/cedwards.bkeselowski.penalties/index.html
What's the point? Edwards should be sitting out at Indianapolis and IRP.
Bucky Badger
Go Kyle Go
Why, because carl can save a car and Brad can't?
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Mopardh9
Guest
I have to agree Andy both of them should be sitting out a race.
VaDirt
Dirt Track Fanatic
Apparently, Cal can't save a car either. Umm, Talladega?
Yeah, it's kind of hard to save a car when you turned 90º angle from the direction you were going.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
Hmmm..... 60 points. What was the difference in points for their finishing position? 59. All of that and he finishes one point behind Keselowski.
Bucky Badger
Go Kyle Go
Carl's car was turned enough (45degrees) that most drivers would have wrecked, so don't hand me that junk.
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SST55
Guest
Why is Brad on probation??? He did a perfect bump and run, done so many times by all drivers, then became a victim.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
I sure agree with you there. I don't get that part at all.
The only thing I can figure is that Keselowski owes a couple to Edwards and their trying to stop the retaliation before it happens.
At least it's something.
I still think Edwards and Rousch owe all the other teams some "fix it" money.
I still think Edwards and Rousch owe all the other teams some "fix it" money.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
Maybe they'll find another way to collect.
VaDirt
Dirt Track Fanatic
Realy?!?!? That's 45º to you? I know it's been a while since you've been in school, but seriously!
Aside from that, once he was loose, Brad let him go. Carl, on the other hand, didn't stop until Brad's car was nose first into the wall.
I really dislike Kez, bad what Carl keeps doing is rediculous!
And again, if Carl's so much better at saving it, why couldn't he save it at Talladega?
I think NASCAR should have made them box-it-out and finally put the fued to rest.
Wing.
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carsntunes
Guest
Yea right, if you call the perfect bump and run laying onto his quarter panel for the entire length of the corner.
VaDirt
Dirt Track Fanatic
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SST55
Guest
From stock Car Gazette
"Edwards admitted that the move was intentional, a reaction to Keselowski’s bump-and-run in both his Victory Lane interview with ESPN and, later, in his post-race press conference with the NASCAR media."
I added the bold. If I was him I don't think I'd be walking between the haulers alone,,,,
"Edwards admitted that the move was intentional, a reaction to Keselowski’s bump-and-run in both his Victory Lane interview with ESPN and, later, in his post-race press conference with the NASCAR media."
I added the bold. If I was him I don't think I'd be walking between the haulers alone,,,,
mike honcho
Knuckleheads
Edwards and Keselowski Invited to Settle Score in School Buses at CMS: Charlotte Motor Speedway officials are inviting NASCAR drivers Carl Edwards and Brad Keselowski to 'settle the score', after their incident at Gateway International Raceway's Nationwide race last Saturday, behind the wheels of 13-ton school buses during Tuesday night's Kangaroo Express Summer Shootout Series. The two NASCAR stars have had more than their share of on-track run-ins over the past 16 months, with the latest coming this past weekend at Gateway International Raceway, where they tangled twice on the final lap, with Edwards emerging the victor of the duel and the race. More info and tickets about the Kangaroo Express Summer Shootout Series at charlottemotorspeedway.com.(CMS), no word if the driver accepted the challenge.(7-20-2010)
Bucky Badger
Go Kyle Go
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SST55
Guest
It's not Brad he should worry about, it's the crews of all those needlessly torn up race cars.
It's not Brad he should worry about, it's the crews of all those needlessly torn up race cars.
You've got a point there...(I know YOU ain't skeered of Brad).
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
Wow, some of you guys really saw a differetn race, didn't you?
Maybe they confuse a dream with what really happened?
It's not Brad he should worry about, it's the crews of all those needlessly torn up race cars.
http://twitter.com/mikedavis88 said:
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
The penalty is a whole lot worse for Brad because now that he is on probation ,he can't knock Carl out of the Sprint Cup Chase without incurring a penalty. I wish Nascar had left them alone so Brad could dump him in the next cup race.
or put brad on the joke of a probation carl got after atlanta
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MoMike
Guest
Yup, Nascar got it wrong again. Wish they just left it alone.
They had 2 choices, park Carl for a race, or leave it alone.
No reason to give Brad probation.
They had 2 choices, park Carl for a race, or leave it alone.
No reason to give Brad probation.
Go Panthers
We are the people our parents warned us about
What Carl is doing is not something that belongs in Nascar, or any form of racing. I understand these cars and tracks are safer than they have ever been before, but that doesn't mean people cant get hurt or killed. What Carl is doing is dangerous and Nascar letting him get away with it personally shows me its all about the mighty dollar and safety is secondary.
Nascar needs rivalries, what they dont need is injuries or deaths.
Nascar needs rivalries, what they dont need is injuries or deaths.
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SST55
Guest
Hope Brad and Penske appeal. There's no reason for him to be on probation in this case.
MRM
Team Owner
This is just a slap on the wrist.
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MoMike
Guest
Yeah, maybe Harvick will follow through with his promise........
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foehammer111
Guest
Edwards clearly has an anger problem. This goes well beyond his fued with Brad. He's gotten in fist fights with Harvick and Kenseth before.
Edwards is just a boy that can't accept he got beat. What Brad did was nothing Earnhardt, Gordon, Petty, Allison, or even Edwards haven't done before. It's a classic bump and run. Could Brad have gotten around him without contact? Yeah, but that doesn't excuse Edwards trying to hurt Brad.
He's already not very popular with his teammates. If he keeps this up, it wont be long before Roush kicks him to the curb. Or NASCAR suspends him.
Edwards is just a boy that can't accept he got beat. What Brad did was nothing Earnhardt, Gordon, Petty, Allison, or even Edwards haven't done before. It's a classic bump and run. Could Brad have gotten around him without contact? Yeah, but that doesn't excuse Edwards trying to hurt Brad.
He's already not very popular with his teammates. If he keeps this up, it wont be long before Roush kicks him to the curb. Or NASCAR suspends him.
Go Panthers
We are the people our parents warned us about
Here's the question, what does it take for Nascar to suspend him? This is 2 times where he's tried to hurt another driver.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
It is interesting to see/hear the drivers speaking out against what Edwards did. I'm sure that there will be quite a bit more of it over the next couple of days. You know the media will be all over this at Indy.
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
You'd think that the first time that it happened was enough to warrant some kind of action from NASCAR more severe than a 3-race probation. As far as attempting to hurt someone..... I doubt that was his motive. I think he simply retaliated with no thought as to the potential outcome. Road/track rage IMO.
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carsntunes
Guest
Wow, some of you guys really saw a differetn race, didn't you?
In a nutshell, I think you know that these two drivers have a history with each other. So therefore we feel like they are both held accountable in some way, shape or form,” Pemberton said. “I think therefore you look at the Turn 1 and 2 incident, and then you look at the retaliation in Turn 4
Quoted from NASCAR.com
Next time don't trust your Brad K designer Rose Colored Glasses.
yeah a history of Carl wrecking Brad intentionally and Brad holding his line at Talladega and Carl wrecking himself
VaDirt
Dirt Track Fanatic
Had you read everything I've posted about this and other issues concerning Kez, you'd notice that I don't own a pair of those glasses. However, I see that you have a pair yourself, although of the Edwards variety.
Look at the replay again. Yes, Brad got into Carl in the turn. carl got sideways (but nowhere near the 45º that some people want to claim) and saved it. It's happened thousands of time between these and hundreds of other drivers. It's costed races. But it damn sure doesn't deserve the amount of retaliation the Carl gave. Under no circumstances was that called for.
Face it, when Carl got sideways, Brad got off the bumper and went for the pass. When Carl got Brad sideways, Carl mashed the gas and kept on it until Brad was nose first into the wall. These are facts, and are as plain as day on the videos.
So, a bump and run deserves a penalty?
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Mopardh9
Guest
The way I see it, as some have already said, this is two blatant "take outs" by Edwards, Atlanta (many laps down runs Kez out) and now this latest one. I can see giving Kez probation because of the history between the two, but Edwards should have been suspended for a race. Hell he should have been suspended after Atlanta. Nascar has let things cross the line and they seem to not know how to reel it in. IMO Edwards has a big problem, I don't think he will get his contract renewed with Jack. How long before sponsors start pulling out? The fact that Edwards has no regard for anything else and hunting down Kez at Atlanta to wreck him still bothers me the most. Gateway just solidified the fact that Edwards needs help to manage his anger. The drivers will police this amongest themselves, they are already alienating themselves from Edwards, hopefully one of them reaches out and is able to talk some sense into h
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SST55
Guest
Sorry but I still can't see giving Kez probation because they have history. As stated before Kez, in this incident, did nothing wrong. He gave a bump and run same as Edwards would have if their positions were reversed. Punishments should be handed out ASAP. Not held over a drivers head in case there's a future infraction.
Edwards has a whole group of drivers now not to impressed with his 'skills'. Willing to bet a bag of innerweb bucks and a donut that if given any chance at all he'll be in the wall a lot for the remaining races.
Home depot lowered the boom on Tony, what's wrong with Scotts/AFLAC etc?
Edwards has a whole group of drivers now not to impressed with his 'skills'. Willing to bet a bag of innerweb bucks and a donut that if given any chance at all he'll be in the wall a lot for the remaining races.
Home depot lowered the boom on Tony, what's wrong with Scotts/AFLAC etc?
Also, it's like Carl said, "...someday Brad will learn not to run into my car". Brad started it. It's his own damn fault if he didn't finish it. Why should Carl accept being run into in 1&2, without retaliating in 3&4??????