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What a mess. What a massive mess. I think what happened at Abu Dhabi is going to go down as the biggest nightmare for the top tiers of racing since the CART/IRL split. F1 had soooo much going for it this year. Now this incredible season will be forever tainted and fan confidence will be at an all-time low.
 

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What a mess. What a massive mess. I think what happened at Abu Dhabi is going to go down as the biggest nightmare for the top tiers of racing since the CART/IRL split. F1 had soooo much going for it this year. Now this incredible season will be forever tainted and fan confidence will be at an all-time low.
I don't think so. The championship being decided on the final lap of the final race is the best thing to happen to motorsports in a long time. It seems like it's mostly highly partisan Hamilton fans who are still upset.
 

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I don't think so. The championship being decided on the final lap of the final race is the best thing to happen to motorsports in a long time.
I'm not a big fan of throwing out the rules to influence a championship. That's WWE level stuff.

Now, the way you settle things is how it was done in IMSA this year, and how it was done in Indycar.
It seems like it's mostly highly partisan Hamilton fans who are still upset.
Certainly, there is some of that, but there are also those who believe a world championship should be fair and credible, which this one wasn't.

And quite frankly, I didn't care who won as long as it was done cleanly. We had a great finale going that would have been won fairly and cleanly, but Masi ruined it for everyone except fans who care more about the "show" than a credible championship.

You lay down the rules and that's how the game is played. You can't change the rules mid race to "spice things up."
Not fair, not credible, and certainly not sporting. The integrity of the championship is the most important thing, and the FIA threw that away to "spice up the show." Of course, you would have to believe the FIA was credible to begin with, which they have never been.

So now we have a fixed championship. If they can't clean it up even long time F1 fans will find Indycar and IMSA to be far more interesting. No one cares about a fake series, and F1 will turn into that if they don't fix this. They can't change this year's result, but they had damm sure better take steps to make sure something like this never happens again.
 
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I'm not sure removing Masi is the answer, but it would be a good first step. What the FIA needs is consistency in applying it's own rules and penalties, but they have always done such a poor job of that there's not much hope they can fix it.

What the FIA needs is a set of travelling stewards, so the drivers know what to expect every race. Right now you can run a guy wide off the track one race, and it's a penalty the next.
 

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Don't get too excited. This looks like the FIA concept car just painted up in Red Bull colors, but it does look really good.

 

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Don't get too excited. This looks like the FIA concept car just painted up in Red Bull colors, but it does look really good.


The only thing that looks noticeably different is the nose. Seems like no one might be willing to show their full design before testing.
 

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these cars look so much better.i wonder how haas will do this year? 12-15th and a few points would be a good year for them.
I've been wondering about this, are the cars not equal now? And does HAAS have the same Ferrari power unit? If so should HAAS not be as fast as the Ferrari's? Or is there more to the new cars?
 

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I thought Andretti decided not to enter F1. Guess I was wrong?
The main shareholder in Alfa Romeo-Sauber ultimately opted not to sell to Andretti as team values are expected to continue to rise over the next few years. This would be an 11th team, hence the $200M fee that serves as a dilution fund for the other ten teams as their annual payouts would be reduced.
 

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The main shareholder in Alfa Romeo-Sauber ultimately opted not to sell to Andretti as team values are expected to continue to rise over the next few years. This would be an 11th team, hence the $200M fee that serves as a dilution fund for the other ten teams as their annual payouts would be reduced.
Does that mean there will be 13 teams when Audi and Porsche join?
The 2020s could turn out to be a golden decade for auto racing. 3 years ago I thought F1 and NASCAR were heading for irrelevance and WEC was already there. Look at the situation now, it's awesome to see.
 

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3 years ago I thought F1 and NASCAR were heading for irrelevance and WEC was already there. Look at the situation now, it's awesome to see.
F1 has shot itself in the foot and it remains to be seen how they recover from that. The new cars are pretty swoopy, so I think that alone will keep people coming back, even those who are fed up after Abu Dabi.

That, and the drive to survive crowd (which they seem to be after) won't care about whether the championship is fair or not, so they will be back because it's the cool thing to do.

Nascar though looks pretty decent, though admittedly I only watched the last 10 laps of the Daytona 500. They have new cars too and they look good and seem to race well. I think the country is suffering nascar burnout because it's been the craze for so long and people have just had enough. They will still be the most successful racing in the country, but it's not going to be like it was 5 years ago. The blind mania is over.

WEC can go either way, and that all depends on how they BOP the LMH and LMDh cars. If the Hypercars have a sustained advantage, that's not going to encourage manufacturers to come into LMDH, and for sure not many are going to want to spend that $35 million hypercar budget. If they can get the BOP competitive between the two different classes of prototypes, we could be set for a really bold new era.

Where I am worried is how Indycar adapts to hybrid racing, especially on ovals. Hybrids didn't give us better F1 and it ruined WEC, so there's a lot of reason to be skeptical.
 
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