F1 to award double points in final race of season

That's not Brian France's idea, more likely it's Bruton Smith's. I must have read the driver numbers rule wrong. It sounds like they will have the same number for their entire career. If that's the case, why would you pick another number at the end of the year?
 
Doubling the points for one race is dumb; might as well try the rules for final Jeopardy and let the teams risk all their points. But the idea of a driver having the same number though out a career is interesting. (#1 is still available to the champion).
 
That's not Brian France's idea, more likely it's Bruton Smith's. I must have read the driver numbers rule wrong. It sounds like they will have the same number for their entire career. If that's the case, why would you pick another number at the end of the year?
Maybe the drivers give a certain amount of numbers they like (in order of preference) and then if there's overlap with other drivers' they'll use each year's points position to settle it. They did word it oddly.
 
I was looking at some pictures of F1 cars and I didn't notice any car numbers on them. If they have numbers they are not prominent. NASCAR has drivers associated with a car number but when I think of F1 drivers I tend to associate them with a team.
 
I was looking at some pictures of F1 cars and I didn't notice any car numbers on them. If they have numbers they are not prominent. NASCAR has drivers associated with a car number but when I think of F1 drivers I tend to associate them with a team.

They do have numbers, Sebastions Red Bull is #1 and Mark Webbers car is #2. The numbers are displayed on the cars but are hard to see. I dont even know the numbers of any other cars
 
They do have numbers, Sebastions Red Bull is #1 and Mark Webbers car is #2. The numbers are displayed on the cars but are hard to see. I dont even know the numbers of any other cars
#1 and #2 went to the team with the WDC and then after that it was based on the WCC.

I wonder if they'll try to make them a little more prominent without imposing on sponsorship space. Not a whole lot of surface area available.
 
#1 and #2 went to the team with the WDC and then after that it was based on the WCC.

I wonder if they'll try to make them a little more prominent without imposing on sponsorship space. Not a whole lot of surface area available.

I doubt it, most F-1 fans dont bother with the numbers as far as I know. I usually look at the helmets to tell who is who. Its no problem at all to figure out which car is Vettel............... he is usually out front :)
 
I doubt it, most F-1 fans dont bother with the numbers as far as I know. I usually look at the helmets to tell who is who. Its no problem at all to figure out which car is Vettel............... he is usually out front :)
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The sporting regulations have also been modified to ensure that number visibility is improved.

Drivers will now have to carry the race number not only on the front of the car in a way that must be "clearly visible" but also on their crash helmet for the first time.

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/111841
 
With the way Vettel dominated, double points will not matter in the finale.
I really thought their points worked well, the Kimi vs Hamilton, Hamilton vs Massa, Vettel vs Alonzo battles were settled in the last race.
Only the recent dominantion by Vettel changed things and prevented the last race drama.Hate to see them pursuing gimmicks.
 
Agreed. Even DRS is gimmicky, but that's another topic. I like the run what ya brung not the when and where you are to matter what the points are or the aero advantage is.
 
Agreed. Even DRS is gimmicky, but that's another topic. I like the run what ya brung not the when and where you are to matter what the points are or the aero advantage is.
Good post shark, and you too, Greg. Certain teams seem to rise to the top and dominate in F1 for several seasons in a row, then everyone else catches up, and another manufacturer has their turn. All without NASCAR-type rule changes to make things 'fair' by penalizing one type of car simply because that team figured out how to take advantage of the rules.

To shark77's point, I'd just like to add that 'gimmicks' like DRS and KERS are technological advances that are transferable to normal cars, once the kinks get worked out in testing and on racetracks. Other racing series' have different versions of KERS, and the Isle of Man TT race has a class for electric bikes that is really impressive. As with the soon-to-come E-Racing F1 series, the competition between teams at these levels will improve the tech for everyday users. To me, those are at least better than 'push to pass' :-(

That said, I sorely miss the old days of 'run what ya brung' at Indy, and would gladly trade the whole season if they would open up the rulebook so that Red Bull, Ferrari, Mercedes, McLaren, Porsche, Toyota, and everybody else could bring a car and give Penske, Ganassi, Chevy, and Honda headaches all month of May long!
 
I'm totally for KERS and things that are employed like it, but I think the way the FIA allows the use of DRS is dumb because it's use is relative to how close you are to the guy in front of you. I'd be for DRS if teams could use it any time they chose, so it wouldn't be based on artificially creating a performance advantage to the trailing car for the sake of creating more passing situations.
 
I'm totally for KERS and things that are employed like it, but I think the way the FIA allows the use of DRS is dumb because it's use is relative to how close you are to the guy in front of you. I'd be for DRS if teams could use it any time they chose, so it wouldn't be based on artificially creating a performance advantage to the trailing car for the sake of creating more passing situations.

I agree in the purest sense, but F1 had to do something, passing almost never happened prior to the intervention. And at places like Monoco DRS still seems like a non factor.
It is a love hate thing for me, I love Monoco the tunnel, Casino, the pool, the water etc. I still see James Garner and the mesmerizing sounds of the Gran Prix movie (even more shallow reasoning than the actual DRS itself :) ).

I wish they would really go to supersoft tires there ,with enough degradation to make double digit lap runs between pit stints unmanageable. It has become a prestigious exhibition, I prefer more racable conditions.

I also would love more race what you brung at Indy, and I fear that May will never regain it's previous luster. But the technology is the perfect storm, the Jim Hall ground effect era and the memory of Gordon Smileys fate in a Patrick car are impossible to ignore. I just wish they had surgically removed the ground effects, and cubic inches (hp) while leaving the rest of the creativity intact. The COT, March, and Dellaria (sp?) has reduced us to spec cars. There are still lots of individual setups and engineering involved, but it is hard for the average fan to notice the differences, even individually team built F1 cars look like a copy these days.

Sorry to ramble or stray off topic F1, Indy, and Cup analogies is a bit too much, your post and SuperTexs were interesting enough to me to stir a few thoughts.
 
I agree. I think a step toward the luster of what Group B was in rally racing in the 80s would make for some good racing.
 
I was looking at some pictures of F1 cars and I didn't notice any car numbers on them. If they have numbers they are not prominent. NASCAR has drivers associated with a car number but when I think of F1 drivers I tend to associate them with a team.
Yeah, aside from the champion's #1 and maybe Foyt's #14, numbers don't mean a whole lot in open-wheel racing. In the modern era, Helio's #3 and Ganassi's #9 and #10 are the closet to being memorable. We were Rahal fans in my house when I was growing up and I don't even remember a specific number him. He was #8 for a while, and then #9, then #7 at one point.
 
Driver numbers are out:

1* Sebastian Vettel, Red Bull
3 Daniel Ricciardo, Red Bull
44 Lewis Hamilton, Mercedes
6 Nico Rosberg, Mercedes
14 Fernando Alonso, Ferrari
7 Kimi Raikkonen, Ferrari
8 Romain Grosjean, Lotus
13 Pastor Maldonado, Lotus
22 Jenson Button, McLaren
20 Kevin Magnussen, McLaren
27 Nico Hulkenberg, Force India
11 Sergio Perez, Force India
99 Adrian Sutil, Sauber
21 Esteban Gutierrez, Sauber
25 Jean-Eric Vergne, Toro Rosso
26 Daniil Kvyat, Toro Rosso
19 Felipe Massa, Williams
77 Valtteri Bottas, Williams
17 Jules Bianchi, Marussia
TBA Max Chilton, Marussia
TBA, Caterham
TBA, Caterham

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