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i finally scored a job on a race team.

joined cowen racing out of ohio, they are a small team sponsored by their trucking company, cowen truck line, they are running some races in the nascar busch east series and 2 in the truck series. i cant wait until march when we go to martinsville, finally i got to pit road:partytime :headbang: :punkrocke :pbjtime: :partytime
 
Congrats
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thanks, hopefully this gives me the experience that some of the cup series teams are looking for.
 
Congrats and I will echo barelypure, what will you be doing.
 
NOT 100 PERCENT SURE, I KNOW AS A "ROOKIE" I CERTAINLY WONT BE CHANGING THE TIRES OR JACKING THE CAR UP. THEY WILL HAVE A TRY OUT FOR ME DURING PRACTICE DAYS AT THE TRACK, I WANT TO BE A TIRE CHANGER. AND EVENTUALLY BE A TIRE CHANGER FOR ROUSH RACING.

DURING RACE DAY I WILL PROBALLY BE THE ONE WITH THE 6 FOOT POLE SCRAPING DEBRIS OFF THE GRILL OR CATCH CAN MAN
 
yep. but maybe i can talk bob and tim into letting me make some laps.
 
This is Tims first shot in a stock car isnt it ? I know him sort of from road racing .
 
THEY MADE 4 RACES IN THE EAST SERIES LAST YEAR. DANG CAPS LOCK. off now.
 
and they picked up a truck and going to try and make the mansfield race, i know thats going to be my biggest race.
 
Think you will be moving to NC sooner than expected?
My sister lives in Moorsville!
 
:cheers: Congratulations !!! :cheers:

Working right over the wall of pit road is not for the faint of heart but if this is a dream, best of luck and may the rest of your your wishes come true.
 
well bad news, got home from work today and listened to the answering machine, and bob cowen the owner of the team says well we arent going to need you we have found somebody localy. so basicaly i wont be on pitroad, this year anyway, i guess i will just stick to the plan of going to mooresville to learn how to fabricate racing bodies. and get a job with a big nascar team. oh well it happens sometime.
 
IM GOING TO CALL THORSPORT RACING MONDAY, THEY RACE IN THE TRUCK SERIES, AND ARE 45 MINUTES NORTH OF ME IN SANDUSKY OHIO. THE THING IS I WANT TO BE IN MOORESVILLE BUT MY "WIFE" DOESNT WANT TO GO SHES AFRAID TO LEAVE HER FAMILY, BUT NOT ME , ALSO IF I GO TO MOORESVILLE I WONT BE SEEING MY 10 MONTH OLD DAUGHTER AT ALL OR AT LEAST VERY OFTEN,

ON THE OTHER HAND RACING IS MY PASSION IN LIFE.

ADVICE PLEASE.
 
With no disrespect.............stay home and take care of the wife and kid.

There are plenty of fabricators looking for jobs down here and the move is towards professional pit crew people. Too many guys come down here with the idea of making it big. It just doesn't work that way very often.

Get experience with a team up there first. Continue to develope your skills and if you are good, people will notice.

I hate to be so negative. At the same time, I hate to see guys with stars in their eyes. This is a tough business to break into and it can cost you your marriage if money gets really tight and it doesn't work out.

I have seen plenty of guys come down here from midwest race teams and struggle. Then they end up going back broke with just a few possessions in the back of their pickup. Not a pretty sight but it is reality.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
 
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With no disrespect.............stay home and take care of the wife and kid.

There are plenty of fabricators looking for jobs down here and the move is towards professional pit crew people. Too many guys come down here with the idea of making it big. It just doesn't work that way very often.

Get experience with a team up there first. Continue to develope your skills and if you are good, people will notice.

I hate to be so negative. At the same time, I hate to see guys with stars in their eyes. This is a tough business to break into and it can cost you your marriage if money gets really tight and it doesn't work out.

I have seen plenty of guys come down here from midwest race teams and struggle. Then they end up going back broke with just a few possessions in the back of their pickup. Not a pretty sight but it is reality.

Good luck with whatever you decide to do.
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I would have to agree with Guido. Btw, what experience do you have with a race team and at what level.
 
MAKES SENSE, I DECIDED I WAS GOING TO GO TO N.T.I. AND LEARN HOW TO FABRICATE THE BODIES AND TO HAVE THE SCHOOL ON MY "RESUME". AFTER ARGUING WITH MY "WIFE" THE PAST FEW MONTHS I DONT THINK I WILL MOVE TO MOORESVILLE YET. THE ONLY RACING EXPERIENCE IS WITH MY OWN RACES CARS, NEVER WAS ON A BIG OR SMALL TEAM, BUT THAT WILL CHANGE SOON I HOPE, IM GETTING TIRED OF WORKING FOR A BIG CORPORATION WORKING ON POOR PEOPLES CARS AND NOT GETTING THE PAY I WANT, AND THATS WHY I WANT TO GET INVOLVED WITH A BIG NAME RACE TEAM.
 
OH I FORGOT AND ITS AROUND 5 DEGREES OUTSIDE, I DONT LIKE THAT AND I DONT LIKE LOOKING AT A FOOT OF SNOW SEVERAL MONTHS A YEAR. THATS ANOTHER REASON I WANT TO RELOCATE TO MOORESVILLE.
 
Mshay, you really should think of your family first and your craft second. If not, you won't have a family for long. Think hard and fast on that before you make any decision. But if you must, you must. See if you can get any info from the major teams about what they might be looking for and what qualifications are required. I'm not going to tell you that there are hundreds, maybe thousands of guys and gals who want to do just what you want to do because I'm sure you already know that. I'm not going to tell you what your odds are either cause it all depends on you. If you are good, and I mean good enough, there will be a way for you. But I just go back to your home life. What are your priorities but more important, you have to let your wife know what your priorities are first.
 
WELL... THE WAY I SEE IT MY PAYCHECKS ARENT GOOD AT THE MECHANIC SHOP I WORK AT, AND I KNOW THAT THERE IS MONEY IN RACING, AND SHE REALIZES THAT THERES MONEY IN IT BUT SHE DOESNT WANT TO GO TO MOORESVILLE WITH ME GOING TO SCHOOL AND TRANSFERING FROM THE SHOP HERE TO DOWN THERE AND SHES SCARED TO LEAVE HER FAMILY MAYBE BECAUSE WE SOMETIMES NEED THERE FINANCIAL HELP, I THINK SHE WOULD BE MORE ACCEPTING IF I HAD A JOB WITH A TEAM WAITING FOR ME.
 
That's kind of tough deal Mshay, but there is no way you can put a dream before your family. I had the opportunity to chase my dream of being a pro musician once (I won't bore you with the details, but it was a really good offer) but by then I had a kid. There was no way I would jeopardize their future for my dream. That was about 10 years ago now and I don't regret it for one minute.
 
Plus you have to be detail oriented to make it in the big time and you don't even realize when your caps lock is on. So maybe it is better if you keep plugging along.
 
I am sure I will draw some flack for this post but what else is new .

Mshay there has been some very good advice givin on here but if you really really want to get a NASCAR/race job it can be done heres some tips .

First , you have to decide if this what you REALLY what you want to do and if your willing to sacrifice almost anything to get where you want to go . Next you have to be realistic about what you hope to achieve . If you think you are going to find fame and fortune quit thinking about working in racing right now and dont even bother reading this any further because the best you can hope for is to make a decent living doing something you love.

To start off with you have to ditch the wife and kid . You dont have to divorce her but you will need to leave them behind and they are going to have to make it on their own atlest for the first year because your not going to have any money.. Getting started in racing is a little like robbing banks for a living , your going to need to travel light and quick .

Next your going to need a pick up with a camper on it (some where to sleep) your not going to have money for motels and its going to be a while untill you settle in anywhere .

OK you have wheels and a bed next you need a NASCAR membership . I think its $ 450 bucks now , dont skip this step thinking someone is going to pay this for you because they wont when your starting out . Now you have to get yourself to the track before or as the haulers get there . Dont bother with RCR DEI Yates Roush BDR JGR etc etc look for undefunded teams the broker they seem the better your chance . Go up to the hauler driver and tell him you have a membership and are looking for work doing anything they need . Show him your NASCAR membership card , remember that membership card is the only thing that sets you apart from the homeless guy that asked him for a job at the last truck stop he was at . Park your pick up in a conspicuous place like the entrance sign to the track and tell him you will be right over there if they decide they need someone.

OK so you talked to all the hauler drivers and you got no bites time for plan B . At every track there is a registration office where everyone picks up their credetials on the outside of the track , find out where it is and what time it opens and be there before it opens . Clip your membership card to your breast pocket so everyone can see it , this will keep the nascar officials from shooing you away because they think you are a pan handler . As people come in to pick up their credentials ask politely if anyone is looking for help for the weekend . Again you can pretty much skip all the big name teams unless their is a line up and you happen to strike up a conversation .

Remember a little BS when they ask you what you have done in the past can help but dont BS any NASCAR experince , everyone in NASCAR knows everyone else and you will be found out faster then a cheater carb going through tech.

Well are you still interested ? Let me know and I will tell you what to do next if you got hired for the weekend and even more importantly I will tell you what you do next if you didnt .
 
Multi, I don't think that your advice is worthy of any flack and is in fact, good advice. I never wanted to totally disinterest the guy in his dream, but only to try and put it in it's priority. I don't know of anyone who wants to kill anyone's dream, but when one shoots for the stars, they should know that a miss an inch is as good as a miss by a mile.

One other bit of advice that I've always heard from those who've become very successful in what they do and that is to hang around with those who are successful in what you want to do. Of course, it might not be that easy to hang around those in NASCAR who are at the top.
 
yes multi very interested...

right now my mind is very swollen with many many decisions, one day i will want to completely relocate with or without my wife, the next day i will decide to go to nti for the 63 weeks and then come back to ohio until i can get an offer from a team. then maybe during that same day i will think i will go to nti, have my wife come down for a week every other month, and graduate come to ohio and get a job with an pro race team or semi pro team.

so the way i see it as of now. im unhappy with my job, racing is my only passion in life and even if i dont get on a race team. i need to go to nti to learn things that i dont know, which honestly the only the i cant to as a mechanic is tig weld and hang/ fabricate a nascar body. so if nothing else i need to go so i can ad those things to my skills.

i feel im good enough and passionate enough about racing that i can get a job on a team, i want to also go to the track on a team as a tire changer.

i think i may leave my wife and kid behind for 63 weeks so i can go to the school. i feel i need to atleast try to get into racing, i have tried other jobs such as being a fireman, took the test past it but was down on the list because of now military or college credit, i have tried being a factory worker for a year but eventually the overtime i volunteered for took a toll on my body and was fired becuase i came to work late a few times. i have done the mechanic job for ten years now, and even though there are a few big checks the small ones out way the good ones, and the public sucks as alot of them want their car inspected but later decide they are to poor to get the work done on their car.

so i guess i should try to follow my passion and try to get into the racing industry, big or small team. if i fail atleast i know i tried as opposed to wishing i did i tried it.

im filling out my financial aid papers today, its easier for me to plan in advance if i go or dont go, but very hard for me to plan to go at the last minute.

so what else is there to do.

please keep the advice coming from everyone i really want to here opinions whether they are positive or negative.
 
Multi you won't see the guys you are talking about at the credential office. They have HARD CARDS with their picture on it. That is all they need from race to race. Come on you are behind times.
 
Sorry guys but I must take the other side.

Who, mshay, is going to take care of and support the wife and kids while you are out chasing your dream. Which is more important to you, your dream or your family.
 
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Sorry guys but I must take the other side.

Who, mshay, is going to take care of and support the wife and kids while you are out chasing your dream. Which is more important to you, your dream or your family.
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Hmmm, now you're thinking like a woman...totally realistic. C'mon, we men are never logical. :beerbang:
 
CANT HAVE A GOOD FAMILY LIFE IF IM UNHAPPY IN MY CURRENT PROFESSION
 
Co-worker had his kid in the NTI school. He graduated 2 years ago. He's been on some Cup teams for brief periods. But, he had to settle for ARCA for now. He had hoped that being at the tracks, working on an under-funded team would help him catch on with a better team. This year he's looking at ARCA. His dad has done a lot to keep him in groceries and such for him to follow his dream. But, then he's in his early 20s so it's a little easier for him to endure the hardships. It sounds like you are nearing 30 so it could be a hard row.
 
SO I JUST GOT DONE FILLING OUT THE FINANCIAL AID ONLINE , AND AM WONDERING IF ANYONE KNOWS ALOT ABOUT EFC- EXPECTED FAMILY CONTRIBUTION
 
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