Firekeepers Casino 400@Michigan Pre Race

jaqua19 said:
I think this is about as sure a thing as Chase at Road Courses.

Larson won 3 in a row here for CGR. Driving for HMS, while HMS is whooping the field? Should go like the 600, imo.

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There is gonna be a lot of fuel only/two tire pit stops in the race, if he restarts in the back at some point there's a chance he's not going to get back to the front.
 
Dr_B_UNC said:
Agreed, that's fair. He wins Daytona and WG hands down without the f***ery. Roval's the last winnable race for them this season, but I hope I'm wrong. (I have slight hopes for Bristol, Martinsville, Phoenix)
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Darlington, Bristol, Roval, Dega, Kansas, Martinsville, Phoenix. The playoffs tracks set up very well for that team. I fully expect a trip back to the final 4 for them.
 
RacerrecaR said:
Were those numbers skewed due to extra restarts from stages?
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Also skewed by the difficulty in making passes. More side by side racing and difficultly in passes is going to register as more green flag passing.

If the p6 car is struggling to pass the p5 car, and they alternate at the line by inches 4 times in 7 laps, that's gonna register as 4 passes, even though it was just a single car failing to complete a pass for 7 laps.

Citing those stats is a textbook example of confirmation bias, and ignoring context. Doesn't paint an accurate picture.

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AdoubleU24 said:
Have they tho? Should've won the Daytona RC (love those rainbows), ran 2nd at Sonoma which is his best finish there, won COTA, won Road America, would have won the Glen by 10 seconds without the flat spot or possibly even the pre race penalty, and was in it until the end at a new venue Sunday.

He'll 3-peat at the roval in the payoffs and I'd bet a lot of money on it.
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Larson was good enough at Watkins Glen. Elliot ran him down from 10-5 seconds, as soon as the lead went from 10.5, Larson went from running 74.5s, to a low 73 in a single lap. Larson had a lot of speed in the bank, like a full second, the stopwatch and radio indicated that. Dale Jr mentioned it once too, but NBC overshadowed that by forcing drama into a race that wasn't in any doubt. He actually gapped Elliot there by around 0.3 before catching the traffic. 9 was a bit quicker on fresh tires, but they were equal on the long run.

+1 on your other points though. Haven't lost anything on the RC. Cliff just has the 5 clicking everywhere right now.

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AdoubleU24 said:
Have they tho? Should've won the Daytona RC (love those rainbows), ran 2nd at Sonoma which is his best finish there, won COTA, won Road America, would have won the Glen by 10 seconds without the flat spot or possibly even the pre race penalty, and was in it until the end at a new venue Sunday.

He'll 3-peat at the roval in the payoffs and I'd bet a lot of money on it.
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I don't think 9 has lost mojo on the RC but I'll argue that Larson wins COTA if it doesn't start raining. Chase would have had to pit. But turned out to be a good strategy.

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dgbullfrog said:
I don't think 9 has lost mojo on the RC but I'll argue that Larson wins COTA if it doesn't start raining. Chase would have had to pit. But turned out to be a good strategy.

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Yeah I kinda wanted to see it play out. They told Chase if he could build the lead up to around 20 seconds (maybe more, I forget) they could maybe splash and go and be ok. Not sure about that but Chase was trying and got it up to around 16 seconds before they threw the yellow. Would've been fun to see.
 
Fired up iRacing last night to practice for this week's Xfinity and Cup races and you could flat foot the Cup car around Michigan. Made me sad... so I ran the 1987 cars which are running at Bristol this week. That was fun.
 
AdoubleU24 said:
Yeah I kinda wanted to see it play out. They told Chase if he could build the lead up to around 20 seconds (maybe more, I forget) they could maybe splash and go and be ok. Not sure about that but Chase was trying and got it up to around 16 seconds before they threw the yellow. Would've been fun to see.
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Lol nothing would have turned that disaster of a race into something fun.

Nascar is gambling way too much with gimmicks this year and it hasn't paid off yet, imo.

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ChexOrWrex said:
Somebody gets it.
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One of my internships at a psych practice involved collecting/finding good research that validates the notion that monitoring heart rate, respiratory rate etc can help people with panic disorder become more mindful about how their symptoms effect their bodies.

I distinctly remember presenting 3 or 4 legitimate case studies that all got thrown away by my site supervisor due to confirmation bias, and some of them not having data that doesn't account for context in the experiment group. It was harsh, but it but it was a lesson in how the scientific method is used to acquire validating data, and it was a lesson in improper data collection methodology. It was humbling, and frankly embarassing to my 22 year old self who really thought I was getting it lol, but it totally reshaped my understanding of how data is collected. Context matters, if it statistics are going to be used to support an argument, error needs to be measured, and accounted for and the context need to be accounted for. Data in itself does not support an argument.

That said, picking numbers to support an argument would make sense on a superficial level, and it's easy to make that error. I sure as hell did.

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jaqua19 said:
One of my internships at a psych practice involved collecting/finding good research that validates the notion that monitoring heart rate, respiratory rate etc can help people with panic disorder become more mindful about how their symptoms effect their bodies.

I distinctly remember presenting 3 or 4 legitimate case studies that all got thrown away by my site supervisor due to confirmation bias, and some of them not having data that doesn't account for context in the experiment group. It was harsh, but it but it was a lesson in how the scientific method is used to acquire validating data, and it was a lesson in improper data collection methodology. It was humbling, and frankly embarassing to my 22 year old self who really thought I was getting it lol, but it totally reshaped my understanding of how data is collected. Context matters, if it statistics are going to be used to support an argument, error needs to be measured, and accounted for and the context need to be accounted for. Data in itself does not support an argument.

That said, picking numbers to support an argument would make sense on a superficial level, and it's easy to make that error. I sure as hell did.

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If you had any statistics to the contrary you might have something besides an opinion except oh, they go back and forth and that isn't passing.
 
jaqua19 said:
One of my internships at a psych practice involved collecting/finding good research that validates the notion that monitoring heart rate, respiratory rate etc can help people with panic disorder become more mindful about how their symptoms effect their bodies.

I distinctly remember presenting 3 or 4 legitimate case studies that all got thrown away by my site supervisor due to confirmation bias, and some of them not having data that doesn't account for context in the experiment group. It was harsh, but it but it was a lesson in how the scientific method is used to acquire validating data, and it was a lesson in improper data collection methodology. It was humbling, and frankly embarassing to my 22 year old self who really thought I was getting it lol, but it totally reshaped my understanding of how data is collected. Context matters, if it statistics are going to be used to support an argument, error needs to be measured, and accounted for and the context need to be accounted for. Data in itself does not support an argument.

That said, picking numbers to support an argument would make sense on a superficial level, and it's easy to make that error. I sure as hell did.

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Presenting statistics without context is the same as lying.

Lies, damn lies, statistics.
 
Kiante said:




More seat time for Josh Berry.
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With Berry replacing LaJoie in the #7 car does that mean Berry starts at the back or will he keep the spot that LaJoie had ?
 
No tech issues? Wow. I don't know how to think about that. LOL
 
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