Ford F-350 diesel

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A guy I know bought a new 2017 Ford F-350 diesel less than a year ago. The truck has 19,000 miles and has performed well except fuel mileage sucks at 16 m.p.g.. Three weeks ago, he noticed anti-freeze under the vehicle and took ti to the dealer as it was under warranty. He left it and the dealer later advised him the water pump was kaput! They also said there were no parts available at this time and would let him know as soon as they got one. Apparently this is a problem with the Ford diesel and running out of a specific part nationwide is a serious issue.
Does anyone have any information on this or know of a similar issue with the Ford diesel water pump?
 
Whizzer said:
A guy I know bought a new 2017 Ford F-350 diesel less than a year ago. The truck has 19,000 miles and has performed well except fuel mileage sucks at 16 m.p.g.. Three weeks ago, he noticed anti-freeze under the vehicle and took ti to the dealer as it was under warranty. He left it and the dealer later advised him the water pump was kaput! They also said there were no parts available at this time and would let him know as soon as they got one. Apparently this is a problem with the Ford diesel and running out of a specific part nationwide is a serious issue.
Does anyone have any information on this or know of a similar issue with the Ford diesel water pump?
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Running out to the garage right now to look under my 2017 F-250 Diesel with 3,300 miles on it. I'll be right back.
 
Whizzer said:
A guy I know bought a new 2017 Ford F-350 diesel less than a year ago. The truck has 19,000 miles and has performed well except fuel mileage sucks at 16 m.p.g.. Three weeks ago, he noticed anti-freeze under the vehicle and took ti to the dealer as it was under warranty. He left it and the dealer later advised him the water pump was kaput! They also said there were no parts available at this time and would let him know as soon as they got one. Apparently this is a problem with the Ford diesel and running out of a specific part nationwide is a serious issue.
Does anyone have any information on this or know of a similar issue with the Ford diesel water pump?
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That is part #8501A (PW-503).

It looks like it is in stock several places online. Not sure why his Ford dealer would not be able to get it in.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
That is part #8501A (PW-503).

It looks like it is in stock several places online. Not sure why his Ford dealer would not be able to get it in.
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Thank you! I'll forward this information to him. Right now he is driving a 2000 GMC w/300,000 plus miles and it seems reliable but he wants his high priced Ford back.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
That is part #8501A (PW-503).

It looks like it is in stock several places online. Not sure why his Ford dealer would not be able to get it in.
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something ain't right. the 7.3 and the smaller diesel have been made for years. Also a 350 weighs around 67 hundred dry. your not going to get rabbit diesel mileage considering most of them drive a diesel like a car, mashing the hell out of the gas and slamming on the brakes during stop and go driving. That isn't a diesels strong point.
 
StandOnIt said:
something ain't right. the 7.3 and the smaller diesel have been made for years. Also a 350 weighs around 67 hundred dry. your not going to get rabbit diesel mileage considering most of them drive a diesel like a car, mashing the hell out of the gas and slamming on the brakes during stop and go driving. That isn't a diesels strong point.
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You're not getting any debate from me on mileage. I get what I expect. I get anywhere from 17.5 to 19 here in western PA. 10 mpg, when I'm towing. Pretty much the same as I got in the 2008 GMC Sierra that I just got rid of. I can tell you that my 2017 F-250 Super Duty Diesel handles the same 5er far better than my GMC did. Nothing against the GMC product. It did everything that I asked it to do. I was somewhat hesitant in making the purchase but I am glad I did.

Whizzer said:
Thank you! I'll forward this information to him. Right now he is driving a 2000 GMC w/300,000 plus miles and it seems reliable but he wants his high priced Ford back.
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These diesel trucks should go forever if they are taken care of.

Whizzer said:
Thank you! I'll forward this information to him. Right now he is driving a 2000 GMC w/300,000 plus miles and it seems reliable but he wants his high priced Ford back.
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Yeah, a 2017 F-350 is going to set someone back a lot more than the 2000 GMC 3500. Comparing apples to apples though..... The 2017's up against each other in price..... I couldn't touch a GMC for as little as I paid for my Ford. One great thing though, that GMC Diesel held a high market value for a trade. Much higher than I ever thought it would. Those things are like money in the bank.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
You're not getting any debate from me on mileage. I get what I expect. I get anywhere from 17.5 to 19 here in western PA. 10 mpg, when I'm towing. Pretty much the same as I got in the 2008 GMC Sierra that I just got rid of. I can tell you that my 2017 F-250 Super Duty Diesel handles the same 5er far better than my GMC did. Nothing against the GMC product. It did everything that I asked it to do. I was somewhat hesitant in making the purchase but I am glad I did.
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7.3 is a torque monster. 900 ft pounds
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
These diesel trucks should go forever if they are taken care of.
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I almost made it to a million on my big truck 928 thousand. I had a 4 banger Isuzu turbo in a box truck that had over 600 thou when I sold it. Drive them right and keep up with the oil, especially on turbo motors and they sure will go a long way.
 
I heard that to replace a turbo on these new Ford's you need to lift the cab off the frame????
 
mike honcho said:
I heard that to replace a turbo on these new Ford's you need to lift the cab off the frame????
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I guess that could be one, way beyond necessary, way of doing it but no, you don't need to lift the cab off of the frame. However, it is a royal PITA.
 
That's a lot on money sitting parked because there's no parts available, well no parts according to the dealer.
Wife's Fusion had a recall on door latches IIRC. She took it in to the dealer after getting the recall letter. Same story, no parts available but she was told make sure she wore her seat belt in case the door did fly open....
Told her Furds sukked.
 
Bobw said:
That's a lot on money sitting parked because there's no parts available, well no parts according to the dealer.
Wife's Fusion had a recall on door latches IIRC. She took it in to the dealer after getting the recall letter. Same story, no parts available but she was told make sure she wore her seat belt in case the door did fly open....
Told her Furds sukked.
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There isn't a manufacturer out there that doesn't have issues. They all suck at one time or another. I've had a recall on every vehicle I've ever purchased from a dealer. Some, more than 3 times.
 
Texted the chap with the F-350 what was reported here and his reply was this is what the dealer told him. He plans to check it out today to get specifics. BTW, he told me awhile back his ratty looking GMC w/300,000 miles is worth $10,000.00 being offered that amount through private sale but decided to keep it as a backup truck and it is a good thing he did.
I'm surprised the dealer didn't offer him a loaner vehicle if this repair/replacement work is on Ford warranty.
 
Diesels , whether they be Ford , GMC, or Dodge have all had their issues, but if you do the proper maintenance on them they last forever. My Dodge 2500 which was a 2001, had over 300,000 on it back in 2012 when i got rid of it. I sold in in a private sale and got $11,800 for it. Having a fuel pump go at that low of mileage is kind of odd tho, hopefully it isn't one of those trucks with a lot of gremlins. As for fuel mileage, I used to get 22-25 around town and on the highway not pulling and 17-19 pulling a big trailer. I averaged 18 mpg driving a fully loaded trailer plus what was in the truck, driving cross country from Colorado Springs to Massachusetts. It was chipped out, high performance injectors, special intake and exhaust. There are a ton of things you can do to improve performance and fuel mileage on a diesel.
 
Dodge's are having the same issue. Water pumps failing early and unobtainium due to so many replacements.
 
I got a little sticker shocked when I saw what some of these new F-350's are going for. :eek:

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I drove a new 1972 Chevy off the dealers lot, 1/2 ton reg cab, long bed, 6, p/s, p/b.
Painted front bumper, no rear bumper, dog dish hub caps, $2200.
Truck prices are insane. Most won't carry anything in the bed.
 
Bobw said:
I drove a new 1972 Chevy off the dealers lot, 1/2 ton reg cab, long bed, 6, p/s, p/b.
Painted front bumper, no rear bumper, dog dish hub caps, $2200.
Truck prices are insane. Most won't carry anything in the bed.
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I would venture to guess that anyone paying $80,470 would fall under the 'Won't carry'.
 
Whizzer said:
A guy I know bought a new 2017 Ford F-350 diesel less than a year ago. The truck has 19,000 miles and has performed well except fuel mileage sucks at 16 m.p.g.. Three weeks ago, he noticed anti-freeze under the vehicle and took ti to the dealer as it was under warranty. He left it and the dealer later advised him the water pump was kaput! They also said there were no parts available at this time and would let him know as soon as they got one. Apparently this is a problem with the Ford diesel and running out of a specific part nationwide is a serious issue.
Does anyone have any information on this or know of a similar issue with the Ford diesel water pump?
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dpkimmel2001 said:
I would venture to guess that anyone paying $80,470 would fall under the 'Won't carry'.
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The best hope is to treat the Ford Water pump and surrounding parts completely with the product pasted below. It is very important to spray all areas that will be bolting up to the water pump. The upgraded water pump will need to connect to an equally upgraded area as well.
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Greg said:
The best hope is to treat the Ford Water pump and surrounding parts completely with the product pasted below. It is very important to spray all areas that will be bolting up to the water pump. The upgraded water pump will need to connect to an equally upgraded area as well.
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can't confuse the dealer employees now.....they wont want to touch it if it's not blue!
 
Greg said:
The best hope is to treat the Ford Water pump and surrounding parts completely with the product pasted below. It is very important to spray all areas that will be bolting up to the water pump. The upgraded water pump will need to connect to an equally upgraded area as well.
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Ha!, I see what you did there.
 
Whizzer said:
A guy I know bought a new 2017 Ford F-350 diesel less than a year ago. The truck has 19,000 miles and has performed well except fuel mileage sucks at 16 m.p.g.. Three weeks ago, he noticed anti-freeze under the vehicle and took ti to the dealer as it was under warranty. He left it and the dealer later advised him the water pump was kaput! They also said there were no parts available at this time and would let him know as soon as they got one. Apparently this is a problem with the Ford diesel and running out of a specific part nationwide is a serious issue.
Does anyone have any information on this or know of a similar issue with the Ford diesel water pump?
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The water pumps on them have always had issues . and the mileage always sucks as well.
 
kyle18fan said:
The water pumps on them have always had issues . and the mileage always sucks as well.
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What manufacturer sells a truck in that class with better fuel mileage? As a current Ford owner and a past owner of a GM truck in that class, I know you can rule them out. They are all much the same.

What I always find amusing is that owners of these trucks seldom reveal their actual fuel mileage. It always tends to get inflated even if it's only by a mile or two per gallon. I've got a few friends that we RV with. We pull similar weight 5ers with a few different makes 3/4 ton & 1 ton trucks. Their fuel station pumps don't lie. We all pump in the same amount or damn close to it.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
What manufacturer sells a truck in that class with better fuel mileage? As a current Ford owner and a past owner of a GM truck in that class, I know you can rule them out. They are all much the same.

What I always find amusing is that owners of these trucks seldom reveal their actual fuel mileage. It always tends to get inflated even if it's only by a mile or two per gallon. I've got a few friends that we RV with. We pull similar weight 5ers with a few different makes 3/4 ton & 1 ton trucks. Their fuel station pumps don't lie. We all pump in the same amount or damn close to it.
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The Dodge Cummins with standard transmissions seem to deliver the best mileage ... in my experience. Thing about it is that when I was part of the excavation business, nobody much worried about fuel mileage on pickups . we used hundreds of gallons of diesel a day. The 16 mpg that you mentioned isn't horrible if it was on a loaded vehicle . I have seen the older Cummins get 20 or 21 and many a powerstroke get 10 or 12.
I have always liked the inline 6 cylinder configuration best . I feel that is the best design for a true heavy duty diesel engine. The only exception is that I have always been quite fond of the old v-series 2 - stroke v-8 Detroits
We get a lot of snowbirds down here and they talk for hours about the fuel mileage of their trucks
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
What manufacturer sells a truck in that class with better fuel mileage? As a current Ford owner and a past owner of a GM truck in that class, I know you can rule them out. They are all much the same.

What I always find amusing is that owners of these trucks seldom reveal their actual fuel mileage. It always tends to get inflated even if it's only by a mile or two per gallon. I've got a few friends that we RV with. We pull similar weight 5ers with a few different makes 3/4 ton & 1 ton trucks. Their fuel station pumps don't lie. We all pump in the same amount or damn close to it.
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I have to say, 16 mpg for a truck that size isn't that bad. I'm only averaging about 20 out of my Frontier, which is a much smaller truck.
 
kyle18fan said:
The Dodge Cummins with standard transmissions seem to deliver the best mileage ... in my experience. Thing about it is that when I was part of the excavation business, nobody much worried about fuel mileage on pickups . we used hundreds of gallons of diesel a day. The 16 mpg that you mentioned isn't horrible if it was on a loaded vehicle . I have seen the older Cummins get 20 or 21 and many a powerstroke get 10 or 12.
I have always liked the inline 6 cylinder configuration best . I feel that is the best design for a true heavy duty diesel engine. The only exception is that I have always been quite fond of the old v-series 2 - stroke v-8 Detroits
We get a lot of snowbirds down here and they talk for hours about the fuel mileage of their trucks
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My 2001 Cummins was an inline 6, one of the best engines in a pick up IMO. Like I said before,with a few mods you can up the mileage to the 24-26 mpg range. For a heavy duty 2500 or 3500 that's damn good.
 
Mopardh9 said:
My 2001 Cummins was an inline 6, one of the best engines in a pick up IMO. Like I said before,with a few mods you can up the mileage to the 24-26 mpg range. For a heavy duty 2500 or 3500 that's damn good.
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Strongest design by far IMO and much easier to seal the heads on. The company that I worked for bought several new Powerstrokes some years back and 3 of them used coolant from day 1 ................ a quart or 2 a week until they finally flew to pieces in about 10 thousand miles. One of em had red diesel in it and Ford used that as an excuse not to warranty the motor.
 
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