Fox has been pretty bad this year

R Clarence said:
Whoever the guys callin' the ARCA race are can call the NASCAR stuff for the next couple events if they want.

Be a fresh change.
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Ralph Shaheen( like TRL menitoned), Cup driver Chris Buescher, Jim Tretow
 
Complete inexplicable choke for Mike Joy to call a yellow with two laps left....when there wasn't. You cannot blow that. They did.
 
Revman said:
Complete inexplicable choke for Mike Joy to call a yellow with two laps left....when there wasn't. You cannot blow that. They did.
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I believe Joy said that somebody communicated to him through his earpiece that there was a caution. While that's a Fox f-up, I don't think Mike Joy can take all the blame for that one.
 
Revman said:
Complete inexplicable choke for Mike Joy to call a yellow with two laps left....when there wasn't. You cannot blow that. They did.
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Joy has been saying incorrect stupid **** for years now. Ive been saying for a long time he needs to retire. Im glad he made that inexcusable gaff with 2 to go, maybe the folks who make executive decisions will wise up.
 
ToyYoda said:
I believe Joy said that somebody communicated to him through his earpiece that there was a caution. While that's a Fox f-up, I don't think Mike Joy can take all the blame for that one.
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Im sure DW & Jeff have the same feed. Besides, before screaming "CAWSHUN" maybe he should look out the farking glass window too see if its true.
 
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/quick-...n-strategy-fun-tricky-triangle-033546491.html

It was a rough day for Fox play-by-play broadcaster Mike Joy. He started the broadcast by calling the crowd at Pocono a “nearly full house” as the overhead shot viewers saw at home was of a mostly empty grandstands.

And while the shot might not have been live, the grandstands during the race didn’t validate Joy’s embarrassing description. When you can plainly see the checkered-flag pattern of the empty seats — even during a caution between stages — a sellout isn’t a possibility.

Then, with two laps to go, Joy exclaimed “Caution!” as Ryan Blaney was attempting to hold off Kevin Harvick. Except, there was no caution flag. Based off Joy’s explanation, someone told him through his earpiece that Cole Whitt had caused a caution. But Whitt hadn’t.

We have no reason to think Joy threw a producer under the bus. He likely got bad info. But it reflected more on him than the unknown person who relayed the wrong information. And threw a scare into viewers thinking that yet another Cup Series race was going to be decided by a late restart.

But back to the “nearly full house” thing for a second. A remark like that is admittedly trivial, but it’s a prime example of the ridiculousness that has permeated Fox’s broadcasts in recent years. It was blatantly obvious to anyone with good vision and a pulse watching Sunday’s race that the grandstands weren’t full at Pocono. What’s the point in lying?

NASCAR and those that shill for it are understandably defensive about the sport’s attendance woes. It’s tough to watch a sport that routinely got 100,000 fans to races on a regular basis struggle to fill grandstands that are far smaller than they were 10 or 15 years ago. But that defensiveness and blatant exaggeration (at best) do no good to serve fans.
 
Thinkin’ it was Joy years ago who spoke durin’ the replay of Edwards in the fence at ole deger.

He pointed out how the fence was keepin’ all the debris out of the crowd - as all kindsa junk could be seen comin’ down into the crowd.
 
Did Joy actually say a full house or a huge crowd? Either way, it was overplayed.

I had to laugh at Mikey near the end of the race when Kyle Busch leading. He said Kyle Busch was the fastest car in the county (or something like that). Several seconds later, he then says Truex was the fastest car on the track.
 
MRM said:
Did Joy actually say a full house or a huge crowd? Either way, it was overplayed.

I had to laugh at Mikey near the end of the race when Kyle Busch leading. He said Kyle Busch was the fastest car in the county (or something like that). Several seconds later, he then says Truex was the fastest car on the track.
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he said almost a full house.
 
Mike Joy is definitely slipping. It's been obvious the last couple of seasons that he's just barely hanging on. Yesterday's caution gaffe was Marty Reid level of bad.

Joy has been the best in the business for decades. But everyone gets old. FOX desperately needs to overhaul their broadcasts next season. They need fresh blood both in the booth, and behind the scenes. The craptastic way in which FOX presents these races (****** camera work, missing on track action, getting information wrong, constant commercials) is doing the sport no favors in terms of appealing to whatever demographic they are supposedly trying to reach.
 
commercials are my biggest gripe. Yeah yeah I know they need them, but I thought the stages would help with that. I don't see a big gain and their side by side is a joke. I don't need to pick at the announcing, Im form my own opinions about how the race is going and who is doing what for what reason. They all have to butter their bread so to speak. So grain a salt with all of them. I do like Gordon's different opinions, D.W's enthusiasm and the jokes and bantering back n forth. a lot of it is repetitive information I have heard a million times, lets face it a lot of it isn't rocket science, but it is way more complicated than a stick n ball contest. us n them. BTW the caution scream came from Joy's headphones during the heat of battle, not from Joy himself, but people are going to believe what they want to believe.
 
Perhaps crewin’ the booth with the current crop is the Fox way of showin’ NASCAR how much they appreciate the high ratings they’re (there for our special friends) pullin’ in.
 
I'm going to pile on today because MW's pit road thing before the race was a total bust yesterday. For some reason they turned the camera on him when no one was standing by their cars. He interviewed some random fans that apparently weren't paying attention. He asked one fan which car Jeff Gordon was driving and she said it was down a few cars. haha.
I actually really like the idea of walking pit road to talk to people, but to make it a 30 second segment of MW running down pit road like a maroon is just dumb. Get a young driver to walk pit road and interview the drivers on what their goals are for the race. Make it 30 seconds with each team or something. Heck, get one of the monster girls to do it. That is a lot more interesting than asking some fan where Jeff Gordon's car is.
 
If they are going to copy Indycar and Robin Miller, use somebody who is respected and a whole lot less frantic and scatter brained than Michael. I think it is the Fox crew's mistake using a guy like Michael as much as Mikey himself.
 
Yesterday's crowd was pretty good in comparison to maybe the last five years at Pocono and I base that on where we had to park (far) and just looking around and gauging how full the stands were. It was a nice crowd but again, about as close to a full house as two pair. When they show that long shot down the front stretch it looks more full than it is. Seemed like there were more people in the infield than usual too. The overhead shot tells the tale, especially coming out of 3 and going up into 1. Those seats were mostly bare. They're the least desirable. I guess some folks like to sit there but the crowd gravitates to the middle. The checkered flag seats are a step up in price from the regular bleachers. If you're the next section to the checkered seats, you won the fan battle and saved a few sheckles. In defense of Mike Joy, he was the only one picked Blaney to win coming out of the last caution, so he wins back a point there.
 
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