France Squashes weeknight races.... road course in the chase...

Hey, I'm just glad he didn't pitch another insane idea to manufacture drama and excitement.
 
I don't normally agree with much of what comes out of BF's bloated boofhead but he is wise to look at shortening more races. I realize that die hard fans would probably like to see longer races but I think shortening some of them would end up being addition by subtraction and working toward the magic 3 hour window may entice some newbies to watch.
 
They can shorten a few more races if they want, but I want to see one race truly be an endurance race. The 600 used to be that, but now it's no problem for those cars to go that distance. I'm sure part of the endurance would involve fans enduring a very long race, but I still think it would be interesting to really push the cars to the limit.
 
Johali said:
"We'll look at the format as well, not just the length of time, how it is structured and halftime breaks".

He snuck that stupid crap right in there. Leave the racing alone for a while. :mad:
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I saw that too and don't understand the point of taking a break at any point in the race. Caution periods are essentially breaks anyway.
 
Nichodemus said:
They can shorten a few more races if they want, but I want to see one race truly be an endurance race. The 600 used to be that, but now it's no problem for those cars to go that distance. I'm sure part of the endurance would involve fans enduring a very long race, but I still think it would be interesting to really push the cars to the limit.
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Maybe having 2 300 miles races is the way to go. One in the afternoon and one at night.
 
To be fair to BF, he said he was in favor of a road course in the chase but it was too hard to make the schedules work. The track owners would cry bloody murder if they had to give up a chase date.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
No worries..... Tick...... Tick..... Tick..... The 'Cup Caution Clock' is getting closer to reality with every tick of the clock.....
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Pretty much already is one, sadly. NASCAR doesn't need to make it official and ruin the final illusion of organic racing.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Cars can easily go 600 miles today and have been able to do so for quite some time. The big problem of overheating and internally lubricated parts grenading are all but gone.
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Dude, I am a Toyota/TRD fan....2013 was not that long ago. Every attempt to produce horsepower takes these engines 10% further than anybody ever thought they could go. I don't ever take reliability for granted after that mess.
 
10 minute red-flag Pee cautions every 50 miles in the 600 so fans (and drivers) won't miss any "action".
Add in extra commericals about nascar during the cautions.
Make it 700 miles, what the heck...
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I don't normally agree with much of what comes out of BF's bloated boofhead but he is wise to look at shortening more races. I realize that die hard fans would probably like to see longer races but I think shortening some of them would end up being addition by subtraction and working toward the magic 3 hour window may entice some newbies to watch.
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If the newbie fans have the attention span of a gnat and cant sit through a 500 mile race, than maybe we dont need them as fans, I am so over NASCAR changing everything to bring in new fans, all its doing is just keeping the circle of change constantly spinning and driving away current and older fans.

The only change I want to see at this point is a new head of NASCAR.
 
Revman said:
Dude, I am a Toyota/TRD fan....2013 was not that long ago. Every attempt to produce horsepower takes these engines 10% further than anybody ever thought they could go. I don't ever take reliability for granted after that mess.
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TRD may have had the problem recently but Dodge, Ford and GM took care of it long ago. I think JGR had it fixed when they were building their own engines if memory serves.
 
jws926 said:
If the newbie fans have the attention span of a gnat and cant sit through a 500 mile race, than maybe we dont need them as fans, I am so over NASCAR changing everything to bring in new fans, all its doing is just keeping the circle of change constantly spinning and driving away current and older fans.

The only change I want to see at this point is a new head of NASCAR.
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I feel your pain as I would like to roll the clock back on Nascar but something has to be done to attract new fans or within 10 years it will be like open wheel.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
TRD may have had the problem recently but Dodge, Ford and GM took care of it long ago. I think JGR had it fixed when they were building their own engines if memory serves.
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IMO the trade off between horsepower and reliability will always leave these engines vulnerable in a competitive environment. Certainly manufacturers are always improving, but I find it fascinating when they cannot help themselves by reaching too far. BTW, JGR came to TRD for the fix in 2011 because they couldn't figure it out. Consequently, they pressured TRD to produce more horsepower in 2012 which they did at the expense of reliability. When David Wilson took over TRD in 2013, he scaled back horsepower to baseline reliability, and built things back up from there.
 
Revman said:
IMO the trade off between horsepower and reliability will always leave these engines vulnerable in a competitive environment. Certainly manufacturers are always improving, but I find it fascinating when they cannot help themselves by reaching too far. BTW, JGR came to TRD for the fix in 2011 because they couldn't figure it out. Consequently, they pressured TRD to produce more horsepower in 2012 which they did at the expense of reliability. When David Wilson took over TRD in 2013, he scaled back horsepower to baseline reliability, and built things back up from there.
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I wasn't sure how the situation with the exploding TRD engines went and in theory engines could start overheating and grenading at any moment in time but it doesn't seem likely as at least for Ford and GM the problem is part of history.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
I feel your pain as I would like to roll the clock back on Nascar but something has to be done to attract new fans or within 10 years it will be like open wheel.
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I completely agree on attracting new fans, its that fine line , you dont want to lose the fan base you already have.
 
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