Gordon upset at Jamie Mac

DanicaFreak said:
. I get your point about the actual playoffs themselves, but think of the NFL. Its part of the drama to see the team that is not going to make the post season take out the playoff bound one. Plus, some of those non-playoff bound teams look at beating the playoff team as their superbowl.
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you always have new racing fans that try to compare every sport to stick n ball.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Reck makes an interesting point. This IS the playoffs now right? & drivers who arent in the playoffs ruining playoff contending teams NEVER happens in other sports. Why? Because non-playoff teams are sitting at home not playing (racing). Could you imagine NFL teams in the playoffs having random players from other teams who didnt make the playoffs trying to ruin the day? This is why playoffs in racing is ridiculously insane.

If you want a real playoff system make the teams that arent in line for a champiomship stay home after richmond.
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Reck said:
What logic?

I was referring to him talking about Jamie driving over his head for the past couple of weeks.

As far as me defending Gordon every time. LOL

You must be new here.

I'm insanely critical of him. Anyone who knows my posting history here would tell you I'm often hard on him and always saying negative stuff pertaining to his performance on the track when he does crappy. Known fact.

I call it as I see it.

Now, as a general rule of thumb I'm going to stick by his side, being that I'm a fan of him but that shouldn't be a surprise now should it?

For instance, I knew what he did to Bowyer at Phoenix was all kinds of messed up but did I shed a tear? No.

Did I say; oh finally!! You bet I did.

What I find most funny though here is that there are quite a few people who seem to hate Gordon or like Gordon based on how he is doing.

Not a year ago, you could swear he was a saint. Couldn't do no wrong and people were happy to see him do well again.

Fast forward some months and Gordon couldn't be doing better and those same people are calling him a whiner, a this or a that. Two faced.

Some people still can't stand that this old dude it's still adding to the record books when they thought he was utterly done.

So you say that I defend him whenever the time calls for it. You're damn right I do.

And I will continue to do so. Do you, or anyone else have a problem with that? You can kindly go **** yourselves. :)
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StandOnIt said:
you always have new racing fans that try to compare every sport to stick n ball.
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That doesnt make any damn sense. Hockey is a stick & ball sport & its the 10th oldest sport in the world. So alot can be compared to it. NASCAR wouldnt be compared to stick n ball sports if the chase playoffs was never implemented. & who are you calling a new fan?
 
Sounds like Jeffie needs cheese to go with his whine....Chit happens Jeff, get over it, Wonder how many over the years could say he ruined their day?
 
It's not the first time Jeff has taken a personal shot at Jamie Mac either.

I believe it was Talladega a couple years ago and Jeff was on the radio saying "I don't know why everyone thinks he's such a great plate racer, he's screwing the line up all day" or something to that effect.
 
Bobw said:
Sounds like Jeffie needs cheese to go with his whine....Chit happens Jeff, get over it, Wonder how many over the years could say he ruined their day?
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He's not whining, he's just mad that some lowly non-chaser was even near his car in the first place. Jamie was in way over his head; he should have been back in 15th place where he belongs.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
This could apply to Keselowski too. He seems to have issues with the non Chase cars over the past couple weeks.
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Chasers are racing for championships, non-chasers are racing for wins...at the same time...on the same tracks. Which is what makes it interesting :D
 
Reck said:
I'm insanely critical of him. Anyone who knows my posting history here would tell you I'm often hard on him and always saying negative stuff pertaining to his performance on the track when he does crappy. Known fact.

I call it as I see it.
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This is true. I remember when we had a little tiff about that, because I thought you were being too negative when it came to him and you disagreed.

Reck said:
What I find most funny though here is that there are quite a few people who seem to hate Gordon or like Gordon based on how he is doing.

Not a year ago, you could swear he was a saint. Couldn't do no wrong and people were happy to see him do well again.

Fast forward some months and Gordon couldn't be doing better and those same people are calling him a whiner, a this or a that. Two faced.

Some people still can't stand that this old dude it's still adding to the record books when they thought he was utterly done.
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I've never been a Gordon fan for the reasons I laid out earlier in this thread, but I've always respected the guy for his talent and accomplishments behind the wheel. That being said, like you, I also call it like I see it. I can give him props when he does well and even be glad to see it (which I am, even though I may not personally be a fan) but still criticize him when I feel that it's appropriate. Doing so doesn't make me or anyone else here with the same mentality two faced - it makes us unbiased.

I'm the same way with my favorite drivers. I will cheer for them all day long, but if they do or say something that I disagree with, I'll call them out on it just like I would call anyone else out, like Jeffy. I try not to say too much bad stuff about him because I know a lot of you are fans of him here, and jumping on him at every turn won't accomplish much. Plus, I don't have a burning, passionate hatred for the dude. I'm just not a fan.
 
DSquad48 said:
Chasers are racing for championships, non-chasers are racing for wins...at the same time...on the same tracks. Which is what makes it interesting :D
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Oh, I agree. I was just pointing out that Keselowski has been voicing his displeasure with the non Chasers over the past couple weeks.

I don't see the problem with the full field of 43 out there running during the Chase. Before the Chase era the full field of cars ran each week as well. At any point someone not in contention could affect the Championship. It's no different today.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
This could apply to Keselowski too. He seems to have issues with the non Chase cars over the past couple weeks.
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I haven't really been paying enough attention to notice, but if that's the case, he needs to chill just like Jeffy. Like I said earlier, it's a race, and they all have a right to be out there fighting for every spot, especially when it's a battle for position.
 
Mr. Gregory said:
I haven't really been paying enough attention to notice, but if that's the case, he needs to chill just like Jeffy. Like I said earlier, it's a race, and they all have a right to be out there fighting for every spot, especially when it's a battle for position.
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They've played some of his in-car audio over the past two races during the broadcast.
 
How can anyone not expect Jamie to be a bit over excited when he discovers that his car is actually competitive ? Jamie is driving for his career right now,he has to give it his all and do something to put him on the map, his young team mate is stealing the show. desperation makes people drive "over their head"
The 9 does it nearly every race and runs over somebody in the process, he nailed somebody at Kansas but I cant remember who it was
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
They've played some of his in-car audio over the past two races during the broadcast.
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Wow. In that case I really haven't been paying attention.

I had to DVR the Kansas race and I ended up just fast forwarding to around 50 laps to go, and Brad was no longer in contention at that point. (I had briefly clicked the TV back on before I went to work and that was where I left off at.) I practically slept through boring Dover the week before that. LOL.
 
Even before the chase came along drivers byitched and moaned about other drivers who were not in contention for the championship not rolling over and playing dead. Holding them up and not letting them pass quickly and easily.
The chase just amplifies this IMHO.
nascar took the position that everyone who qualified for the race should be able to race and not 'roll over' for anyone. I said earlier that Jeffie shouldn't talk as he's ruined the day of others over the years too.
One of the very few decisions nascar has made that I agreed with. :)
 
I think Gordon was simply saying that Jamie Mac was over driving a loose car. Everyone is making way too big a deal about this.

pudge said:
and when it's his fault, he think it's just a racing deal
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I disagree. When Gordon makes a mistake that ruins someone's day, more often than not he's the first one to publicly blame himself and apologize.
 
TooSweet said:
I think Gordon was simply saying that Jamie Mac was over driving a loose car. Everyone is making way too big a deal about this.



I disagree. When Gordon makes a mistake that ruins someone's day, more often than not he's the first one to publicly blame himself and apologize.
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Yep.
 
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