Gordon winning the Championship: NASCAR's Worst Nightmare?

hidesert cowboy said:
if you read the drivers reactions none of them including jeff gordons teammates think it was the right thing to add a 13th spot to the chase.
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Jimmie was the one with a bug up his ass about it. The rest were just confuse about the whole thing.

I think most drivers know Gordon should be in anyway.

In some ways is like Jimmie still is intimidated by Jeff.

Before being added in, he was all for sticking by Gordon. He even tweeted how he hurt Gordon's chances when he hit the wall and what have you. Somehow now he thinks its not right? Oh Jimmie.
 
cwag1 said:
What about consistency by NASCAR if they are going to penalize a team 50 points for teammates helping teammates why would they not penalize a team offering to "help" another team the same thing? Penske paying off Front Row is a whole lot slimmer than Vickers pitting. And you don't know how many spot Joey my have dropped without the 38 being his wing man.
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And Penske was already on probation beforehand. :confused: I read some comments by Truex and he was not pelased.
 
reck said:
LOL c'mon dude, you're acting like us Gordon fans haven't experienced the joy of your guy winning a championship...4 times nonetheless.
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Yeah, but it's been awhile. Anyone who was in Kindergarten when Jeff won his last championship will be graduating high school this year. But, if he does win it this year, who could blame his fans for gloating a bit?
 
BobbyFord said:
I think a worse nightmare would be if one of the teams involved with manipulating the outcome of the Richmond race won The Chase. IMO, that would equate to a non-deserved, tarnished win and would bring credibility questions to the sport of NASCAR, similar to the effects of the use of banned substances in MLB.
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credibility questions in Nascar. HA! These are the same people who did not penalise gordon for riding around phoenix to take out bowyer, however Nascar claimed it could not penalise intent, then penalises MWR on intent, because there was not enough proof. No credibility questions, here. No, sir.
 
FLRacingFan said:
And Penske was already on probation beforehand. :confused: I read some comments by Truex and he was not pelased.
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Turn the other cheek. MWR was the fall guy, here. everyone else gets a pass. Nascar exacted its pound of flesh. Truex has reason to be pissed. he got screwed by nothing of his doing.
 
dgrblue4 said:
Turn the other cheek. MWR was the fall guy, here. everyone else gets a pass. Nascar exacted its pound of flesh. Truex has reason to be pissed. he got screwed by nothing of his doing.
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Is that you Mikey?
 
Logano winning it would be the worse in my opinion. He is the only driver that wasnt suppose to be in to begin with. Gordon and Newman were well on their way to earning their spots. Say what you will about Bowyer, but he was well secured in Chase before he pulled his bull****.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Yeah Id like to see him win one and become the only driver to win the championship in all 3 series.
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Until Bobby Labonte takes his talents to Trucks and wins a championship. while i do believe Bobby will eventually make the HoF, winning a Truck title would probably put him first ballot.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
I really don't care about any of the politics of it. The final word is the final word. Joeys in and will run for a championship and the opinion of the fans doesn't change that. I don't care how it happened... hes in that's the bottom line. I could be staring at concrete evidence he cheated but if NASCAR lets him in I really don't care... it is what it is
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This here is why I will never take you seriously. You are the type of fan Nascar wants, needs, and deserves.
 
People will always complain for the complainings sake...I have said it before, and I will say it again, and again, and again...if Newman was added Gordon deserved to be as well...it was what is right...I think the biggest night mar would be if Bowyer or Logano win it...your team does all that yet you still win the championship...that would be a worse PR death in my opinion....
 
Besides, what good does it do to get all bent out of shape over the politics, etc? The powers that be will do as they please. It's their
game, their rules.

If you don't like it, you have 2 choices --- live with it, or live without it. I prefer to live with it.
If that makes me a stupid fan, then so be it.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
Besides, what good does it do to get all bent out of shape over the politics, etc? The powers that be will do as they please. It's their
game, their rules.

If you don't like it, you have 2 choices --- live with it, or live without it. I prefer to live with it.
If that makes me a stupid fan, then so be it.
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never said a stupid fan, just one that Nascar is aiming for. I don't agree with how they handled things. To me that mean I can't take their sport seriously, at least for this year. I won't spend any more of my money on them this year, already decided on passing the Texas race before all this happened anyways, and races are now not going to be the priority for me. I will probably still watch, but probably will be off the DVR. If I don't have better plans than I might watch it live. Call it a protest of some sorts, or just call it finally being fed up with it all.
 
Jeffrey00 said:
never said a stupid fan, just one that Nascar is aiming for. I don't agree with how they handled things. To me that mean I can't take their sport seriously, at least for this year. I won't spend any more of my money on them this year, already decided on passing the Texas race before all this happened anyways, and races are now not going to be the priority for me. I will probably still watch, but probably will be off the DVR. If I don't have better plans than I might watch it live. Call it a protest of some sorts, or just call it finally being fed up with it all.
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It doesn't read like you are fully dedicated to your cause.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Sorry, I meant protest.
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I never said it was a protest either. I said you can call it that, or just call it being fed up. Basically just saying label it whatever you want to, that is how I feel about Nascar. Never said I would completely stop watching it, just that I will stop making it a priority now. So I am not sure how I am not committed to that, but if you say so.
 
Jeffrey00 said:
I never said it was a protest either. I said you can call it that, or just call it being fed up. Basically just saying label it whatever you want to, that is how I feel about Nascar. Never said I would completely stop watching it, just that I will stop making it a priority now. So I am not sure how I am not committed to that, but if you say so.
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Every time I label it you seem to take offense with it. o_O

Just joking with you. I know there are strong opinions on this. My view is that they've all done their deal now. People have been fined. Others have been placed in the Chase. Me watching or not watching isn't going to affect any of that. I'm not happy at all with all of the decisions that were made but I seldom am. There was no way for everyone to be appeased on this so I think they just decided to play it safe and piss everyone off just a little bit and spread the hate in smaller portions. I'm continuing to watch just as I had planed.
 
Kevin, I don't like what's happened to my chosen sport. It's a shame that the teams put NASCAR in a box and made them change things after the Richmond race. Let's get it clear --- the TEAMS, who chose to affect the outcome of the race and the participants in the Chase, they are responsible for the actions taken by NASCAR.

I learned a long time ago that getting mad, yelling and screaming at things I cannot change does no good. It only raises my blood pressure.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Every time I label it you seem to take offense with it. o_O

Just joking with you. I know there are strong opinions on this. My view is that they've all done their deal now. People have been fined. Others have been placed in the Chase. Me watching or not watching isn't going to affect any of that. I'm not happy at all with all of the decisions that were made but I seldom am. There was no way for everyone to be appeased on this so I think they just decided to play it safe and piss everyone off just a little bit and spread the hate in smaller portions. I'm continuing to watch just as I had planed.
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Ok, well I guess my offense is not the labeling it part, just the part you say I am not committed to it. Kind of like you are making it out to be more than it is. That is all. If you want to call it a protest, then call it a protest. I am just not sure where the lack of commitment over what I said is coming from that is all.

I guess I should have just said "how so?" to start with. lol.
 
I say it over and over on here, I AM A RACE FAN, so what happened yesterday, last week, last month, last year or last century is not going to affect, stop or slow down my watching a race. I love this sport second only to my family and everyone is entitled to their opinion but for the life of me I cant understand why some come on here hating and bashing racing or parts of it thereof but still watch it.
 
And I still don't understand why the extreme prejudice against NASCAR for this fiasco. It was drivers/teams that put NASCAR in a box and made them react.
And let's not leave we, the fans, out, either. I have a feeling the explosion we, and the media, created also contributed to NASCAR's reaction.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
And I still don't understand why the extreme prejudice against NASCAR for this fiasco. It was drivers/teams that put NASCAR in a box and made them react.
And let's not leave we, the fans, out, either. I have a feeling the explosion we, and the media, created also contributed to NASCAR's reaction.
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YEP. :)
 
I don't think Gordon is a legitimate title contender myself, it's just been sooo long since his last title. He is right at what I think is the record for most years in between winning championships. Terry Labonte beat Jeff in 96 & that was his first title since 84 at the time, 12 years. Jeff's last title was back in 01 so we're at 12 years since, I honestly don't think he has another one in him...
 
I was at Hendrick Motorsports this past weekend & what you notice as you tour the facility is the fact that the bulk of Gordon's success was in the mid to late 90's. His glory days are done now he's doing what a lot of Cup drivers do when they're close to retirement, showing flashes of what was when they were in their prime & only winning maybe one or two races a year...
 
ToyYoda said:
Today, NASCAR made the questionable move of tossing aside the rule book and penciling Jeff Gordon into a newly created 13th spot in the Chase. But if you think about it, wouldn't it be a PR fiasco for NASCAR if Gordon goes on to win it all? If a guy that has been running mediocre all year gets a Chase spot created especially for him, then all of a sudden comes alive and tears it up in the Chase, you'd need 10,000 sticks to fend off all the conspiracy theorists that would come out of the woodwork. And I'm not talking just about message board people, but national media as well. You have to admit it would look awfully shady to the casual observer.
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No, I don't have to admit it looks shady at all. Can't even come close to the stick n ball b.s. that goes on every day. Can't compare it, doesn't come close. And any casual fan that picks up the sports page everyday can figure that out. What we got here are stick n ballers trying pull Nascar down to their level IMO. Nascar bowed to the pressure, came up with the chase to satisfy the vocal hoards who continue to try to make it like stick n ball and guess what..we got the same result. Set up for scandal, drama, and negative headlines. But the BIG difference? Nascar did something about it. We don't have roid thugs who can't spell their name, or 78% of them flat broke by 53 years old. Nascar listens to their fans..which apparently to some who are used to B.S. turn the other cheek of the NFL or the NCAA is a dumb thing to do. Get yo happy a@@ back..fobawl season is here ra ra sis cum ba. Bless Gordon, he didn't cheat, and the rest are getting their comeuppance and the chase rolls on.
 
Matthew2470 said:
If Bowyer had not been told to spin our or had refused, none of the would have happened.
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If you wanna play the blame game, if there was no Big Bang and no earth there would be no NASCAR and no forum.
 
The reality is, Newman is the extra chase guy. Nascar's reversed engineered 'team penalty' to Truex for Vickers questionable pitting proves it was all a means to justify and end, getting Newman back in. But the fact is, Newman needed to win to get in and had a bad pit stop, so nascar found a way to assume a win to fix what they said they couldn't prove. Funny they didn't give a damn back when Menard executed that fraud spinand stop designed to take 3 bonus points from Gordon and hand them to Harvick

Meanwhile, Vickers spin denied Gordon the 10th spot, and moved Logano from the 2nd WC up to 10th, which is where he would have been if Newman won. Then they hear Gilliland demanding something to give up a meaningless spot, and decide Gordon had too much working against him? That point decided nothing at all, but nascar realized they had addressed the MWR situation in the wrong way and needed something to address Gordons situation.

nascar consistency. It takes a jug of moonshine to see it, but it's there.
 
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