Halftime?

If the numbers were accurate, the games would have been blacked out. They weren't.
OK, then they are making up all of the numbers and then taking the Jaguars and intentionally portraying them lower in the list than they should be represented. I'm just trying to make sure I have this right. ;)
 
OK, then they are making up all of the numbers and then taking the Jaguars and intentionally portraying them lower in the list than they should be represented. I'm just trying to make sure I have this right. ;)

I'm questioning all the numbers. How does a stadium with less capacity than EverBank Field sell roughly about the same percentage of tickets as EverBank Field and somehow tha translates in to the smaller stadium suddenly having more people in the stands.

Anything to get another team in California I guess.
 
I'm questioning all the numbers. How does a stadium with less capacity than EverBank Field sell roughly about the same percentage of tickets as EverBank Field and somehow tha translates in to the smaller stadium suddenly having more people in the stands.

Anything to get another team in California I guess.
Just funnin with you Andy but those numbers that are being reported on ESPN's web site are the same numbers that are being reported everywhere else that I've looked. They are compiled by the NFL and released. ESPN and other online sources are only relaying the information that is provided to them. I know what you're saying about the blackout rules and how they are to work assuming that the game has to be a complete sellout to be televised in the local market but perhaps there is a way around that? It shows less than a sellout for the Steelers but I know that's not the case.

Back to the topic..... As has been said before halftimes have been tried, truck series. Do we still see them in the truck series? There's probably a reason why that's the case. Halftimes are for the All-Star race and other fictional races.
 
You guy forget, arguing with Andy about anything is useless. Remember, he's a reporter, and anything he reports is always "accurate." Doubt it? Just ask him. Hell, you don't even have to look anything up, just ask Andy. :rolleyes:
 
Just funnin with you Andy but those numbers that are being reported on ESPN's web site are the same numbers that are being reported everywhere else that I've looked. They are compiled by the NFL and released. ESPN and other online sources are only relaying the information that is provided to them. I know what you're saying about the blackout rules and how they are to work assuming that the game has to be a complete sellout to be televised in the local market but perhaps there is a way around that? It shows less than a sellout for the Steelers but I know that's not the case.

Back to the topic..... As has been said before halftimes have been tried, truck series. Do we still see them in the truck series? There's probably a reason why that's the case. Halftimes are for the All-Star race and other fictional races.

Like I said, I'm throwing my BS flag at all the numbers.

"I demand a recount"

Halftime is for football, not racing.
 
Yet they still sell more tickets than most of the other teams in the league.

JAX does? no they don't, they had to have a massive campaign to sell tickets last year, they even went as far as trying to get Tebow on the roster just to put butts in seats.

They aren't going to LA, but they dont sell tickets like most NFL teams do. Hell, none of the FL NFL teams sell tickets.

Now your other team, the Redskins, they could loose every game for 10 years and still sell out every single game.
 
I'm still calling bull.

http://www.businessinsider.com/nfl-tv-blackout-rule-2012-7

So, if the Jags, on average, only sold 92% of their tickets (and, on their best days, only sold 96%), every single game last year would have been blacked out. Except, none of them were. Zero blackouts in Jacksonville. Furthermore, this also contradicts other reports that claim only 51,000 fans attend Jaguars games.

Again, I'm not trying to be a dick, I'm just saying that I don't trust ESPN. I've sat right here on my couch and watched ESPN Monday Night Football say things about the attendance being poor at a game that was visibly and statistically sold out.

On a related note, I'm glad to see the Dallas Cowboys can sell more tickets and seat more people at their games than they actually have. What are they doing, charging people to watch the games on TV at a bar nearby and counting it towards their attendance figures? :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:

How many games were blacked out the season before? Before they had a massive campaign to sell tickets.
 
JAX does? no they don't, they had to have a massive campaign to sell tickets last year, they even went as far as trying to get Tebow on the roster just to put butts in seats.

They aren't going to LA, but they dont sell tickets like most NFL teams do. Hell, none of the FL NFL teams sell tickets.

Now your other team, the Redskins, they could loose every game for 10 years and still sell out every single game.

Not according to the "stats" listed on here. Of course, it's common knowledge that the Redskins and Steelers sell out every game.
 
Just funnin with you Andy but those numbers that are being reported on ESPN's web site are the same numbers that are being reported everywhere else that I've looked. They are compiled by the NFL and released. ESPN and other online sources are only relaying the information that is provided to them. I know what you're saying about the blackout rules and how they are to work assuming that the game has to be a complete sellout to be televised in the local market but perhaps there is a way around that? It shows less than a sellout for the Steelers but I know that's not the case.

Back to the topic..... As has been said before halftimes have been tried, truck series. Do we still see them in the truck series? There's probably a reason why that's the case. Halftimes are for the All-Star race and other fictional races.
One reason why they were used in the Trucks was because they went to a lot of short tracks that didn't have pits, so a halftime was needed to make adjustments. Colorado National Speedway comes to mind and I'm sure there were others that didn't have pit facilities in the infield.
 
One reason why they were used in the Trucks was because they went to a lot of short tracks that didn't have pits, so a halftime was needed to make adjustments. Colorado National Speedway comes to mind and I'm sure there were others that didn't have pit facilities in the infield.
Also cost. They didn't want to have to have the costs associated with having a full pit crew attached to each truck team. My only point was that it doesn't exist for a reason. It was nothing more than a gimmick that has already seen its time. It doesn't belong in NASCAR.
 
One reason why they were used in the Trucks was because they went to a lot of short tracks that didn't have pits, so a halftime was needed to make adjustments. Colorado National Speedway comes to mind and I'm sure there were others that didn't have pit facilities in the infield.

The Truck series was awesome back then. Then somebody decided we needed to see 3 touring series at the same tracks. I enjoyed the short tracks only approach and the more weekend warrior style of racing. The halftime served a purpose like you said for the lack of pit stalls at most tracks they went to.
 
The Truck series was awesome back then. Then somebody decided we needed to see 3 touring series at the same tracks. I enjoyed the short tracks only approach and the more weekend warrior style of racing. The halftime served a purpose like you said for the lack of pit stalls at most tracks they went to.
Yeh it was cool to see them on some the local Saturday night tracks, of course it became all about money as is everything, gotta admit though the trucks were really cool back then. Some good old boy racing.
 
The Truck series was awesome back then. Then somebody decided we needed to see 3 touring series at the same tracks. I enjoyed the short tracks only approach and the more weekend warrior style of racing. The halftime served a purpose like you said for the lack of pit stalls at most tracks they went to.

I enjoyed the short tracks as well. But someone decided the Busch Series needed to run the same cars, engines and tracks as the Cup Series.
 
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