Harvick is a punk

Originally posted by Gollum@Sep 7 2003, 12:34 PM
Yep your right Dale3. Suspend him and any body else that makes a seen on pit road, garage.that throws heat sheilds. helmets.flips people off makes obseane jestures. Yep suspend them all and let the 10 that are left race.
You just HAD to mention the throwing of the heat shields did't you :p :lol:
 
Listen, y'all have every right to rant and argue and crap but what Rudd did is a cheap-chicken wuss move. He had three lines to go and he instead decided just to outright wreck Kevin Harvick. Now, I can understand that everyone's arguing bout "oh Harvick has a bad rep". Look at the sh1t moves that Crudd has done after races past and he's fought Rusty Wallace, and even members of his own team.

And if you still say that Kevin is trying to be Dale Earnhardt. That's a crap statement. Kevin Harvick is Kevin Harvick, he has a burning passion to win that I know can sometimes. Kevin Harvick is no Dale Earnhardt, we threw that statement out years ago, Harvick is himself; he has such a huge burning determination to win unlike any other racer we see today in modern NASCAR that it can sometimes boil over. The crews nearly came to blows, Harvick threw his hans device at Rudd who was still nestled safely in his race car and the jackman for the 29 team jumped on the hood of the 21 Motorcraft Ford. Ricky Rudd complained "oh they damaged our hood", look what you did to Kevin Harvicks car AND TRY TO COMPARE THE PARITY TO THAT ONE. Harvick still had a good shot to win until that boot.

With all things aside, Kevin has a very strong passion and barring a few other names in NASCAR. If NASCAR decides to park him again, then NASCAR will have a lot of angry fans on their hands. It surprises me that everyone's all the sudden talking about parking Kevin for a race because of his bad reputation when they also need to look at Ricky Rudd who's tangled with Rusty Wallace, even some of his own engine builders after several races in the past. I guess as we near NASCAR's decision making time, lots of things are going to come out of this. Regardless through it all, I show my support for Kevin Harvick, I always have and always will.
 
Sorry Happy, I just can't agree on this one. Harvick over-reacted, but I don't think he is a punk.
 
I have a feeling this a gonna be a long drawn out post.
 
I agree that he may have over-reacted a bit, I'm not going to again relay the arguement that he's only human; because of the shouting match with Biffle a year and a half ago we knew that already. But if I was on a top 5 streak and I had a shot to win and I got wrecked because someone didnt have the common sense to brake or pass on the inside or outside, then I wouldve told that guy what my feelings were.
 
That just goes to show that humans arn't perfect. How many of us in the middle of a heated argument or debate have said or did something that made us look like first class butholes. You may regret it but you can't do anything about it after the fact.
 
I think the difference between the Harvick/Rudd deal and the Kenseth/Sauter deal was Kenseth and Sauter had already hit each other. Sauter make a mistake coming off the turn and got into Kenseth and they slid up the track. When the caution came out, Kenseth hit Sauter. Then Kenseth got by Sauter and Sauter punted him.

Now lets look at the Harvick/Rudd deal. Harvick got loose and Rudd just kept hittin him and Harvick ended up in the wall.

Well, Kenseth had what was comin to him because he had already had a few run-ins with Sauter. Rudd (from what it looks like) just plain out wrecked Harvick.
 
Originally posted by Happy29@Sep 7 2003, 01:44 PM
Listen, y'all have every right to rant and argue and crap but what Rudd did is a cheap-chicken wuss move. He had three lines to go and he instead decided just to outright wreck Kevin Harvick. Now, I can understand that everyone's arguing bout "oh Harvick has a bad rep". Look at the sh1t moves that Crudd has done after races past and he's fought Rusty Wallace, and even members of his own team.

And if you still say that Kevin is trying to be Dale Earnhardt. That's a crap statement. Kevin Harvick is Kevin Harvick, he has a burning passion to win that I know can sometimes. Kevin Harvick is no Dale Earnhardt, we threw that statement out years ago, Harvick is himself; he has such a huge burning determination to win unlike any other racer we see today in modern NASCAR that it can sometimes boil over. The crews nearly came to blows, Harvick threw his hans device at Rudd who was still nestled safely in his race car and the jackman for the 29 team jumped on the hood of the 21 Motorcraft Ford. Ricky Rudd complained "oh they damaged our hood", look what you did to Kevin Harvicks car AND TRY TO COMPARE THE PARITY TO THAT ONE. Harvick still had a good shot to win until that boot.

With all things aside, Kevin has a very strong passion and barring a few other names in NASCAR. If NASCAR decides to park him again, then NASCAR will have a lot of angry fans on their hands. It surprises me that everyone's all the sudden talking about parking Kevin for a race because of his bad reputation when they also need to look at Ricky Rudd who's tangled with Rusty Wallace, even some of his own engine builders after several races in the past. I guess as we near NASCAR's decision making time, lots of things are going to come out of this. Regardless through it all, I show my support for Kevin Harvick, I always have and always will.
AMEN HAPPY!!!
 
Originally posted by 66mustang@Sep 7 2003, 02:09 PM
Well, Kenseth had what was comin to him because he had already had a few run-ins with Sauter. Rudd (from what it looks like) just plain out wrecked Harvick.
WHAT????....that is so unbelieveably absurd, to suggest that Kenseth deserved to have someone try to wreck him twice under green because he tapped Sauter under yellow, but when Rudd gets into Harvick under green once, and Rudd needs penalizing...where is the parity in that??
 
Originally posted by slick-nick+Sep 7 2003, 02:54 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (slick-nick @ Sep 7 2003, 02:54 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Happy29@Sep 7 2003, 01:44 PM
Listen, y'all have every right to rant and argue and crap but what Rudd did is a cheap-chicken wuss move. He had three lines to go and he instead decided just to outright wreck Kevin Harvick. Now, I can understand that everyone's arguing bout "oh Harvick has a bad rep". Look at the sh1t moves that Crudd has done after races past and he's fought Rusty Wallace, and even members of his own team.

And if you still say that Kevin is trying to be Dale Earnhardt. That's a crap statement. Kevin Harvick is Kevin Harvick, he has a burning passion to win that I know can sometimes. Kevin Harvick is no Dale Earnhardt, we threw that statement out years ago, Harvick is himself; he has such a huge burning determination to win unlike any other racer we see today in modern NASCAR that it can sometimes boil over. The crews nearly came to blows, Harvick threw his hans device at Rudd who was still nestled safely in his race car and the jackman for the 29 team jumped on the hood of the 21 Motorcraft Ford. Ricky Rudd complained "oh they damaged our hood", look what you did to Kevin Harvicks car AND TRY TO COMPARE THE PARITY TO THAT ONE. Harvick still had a good shot to win until that boot.

With all things aside, Kevin has a very strong passion and barring a few other names in NASCAR. If NASCAR decides to park him again, then NASCAR will have a lot of angry fans on their hands. It surprises me that everyone's all the sudden talking about parking Kevin for a race because of his bad reputation when they also need to look at Ricky Rudd who's tangled with Rusty Wallace, even some of his own engine builders after several races in the past. I guess as we near NASCAR's decision making time, lots of things are going to come out of this. Regardless through it all, I show my support for Kevin Harvick, I always have and always will.
AMEN HAPPY!!! [/b][/quote]
He will NEVER be another Dale, there will not be another one like him. I still say he needs probation, suspended one race...something to show Harvick he needs to calm down. But if Harvick gets something against him, Rudd needs a piece of it to. That crew should be penalized also....
 
Happy 29

I could only read about 2 sentences in your post before I just broke out in laugher!
Do you remember 2 years ago when it was Kevin doing the cheap shot to Rudd? Rudd was lucky he saved the car & went on to win that night.

You can call Ricky anything you want. but you must remember that Kevin did it to Rudd first! Whether Rudd bump him to win that one or not.

The only thing I have against Kevin is he forgets what he did 10 minutes, A day or 2 years ago.

Kevin is a good driver with a great desire to win.
 
Like Friday night.....

I think we've bashed Harvick enough.....well I have, I think
 
Well, I read only 1 sentence in your statement before I broke out in laughter, did Kevin save the car like Rudd did , NO ! I believe Rudd is the cheap shot artist in this one, well that's as far as it goes for me.
 
The only thing that good came out of it was Jr. still has 2nd...shh, other then that, it hasnt been any good for neither Rudd nor Harvick
 
Originally posted by eeff@Sep 7 2003, 09:18 PM
Happy 29

I could only read about 2 sentences in your post before I just broke out in laugher!
Do you remember 2 years ago when it was Kevin doing the cheap shot to Rudd? Rudd was lucky he saved the car & went on to win that night.

You can call Ricky anything you want. but you must remember that Kevin did it to Rudd first! Whether Rudd bump him to win that one or not.

The only thing I have against Kevin is he forgets what he did 10 minutes, A day or 2 years ago.

Kevin is a good driver with a great desire to win.
Kevin bumped Rudd then Rudd bumped Kevin to win. Thet was two years ago. They haven't had any more dealing with each other untill last night. Rudd knew he didn't have the car to get around Kevin so ht knocked him out of the way to gain a spot and still lost that spot to Mayfield.
 
Originally posted by Roush_Racer+Sep 7 2003, 12:32 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Roush_Racer @ Sep 7 2003, 12:32 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--66mustang@Sep 7 2003, 02:09 PM
Well, Kenseth had what was comin to him because he had already had a few run-ins with Sauter.&nbsp; Rudd (from what it looks like) just plain out wrecked Harvick.
WHAT????....that is so unbelieveably absurd, to suggest that Kenseth deserved to have someone try to wreck him twice under green because he tapped Sauter under yellow, but when Rudd gets into Harvick under green once, and Rudd needs penalizing...where is the parity in that?? [/b][/quote]
Kenseth knew he had something coming to him. Harvick didn't.
 
Nobody really know, it's all speculation. Heck, we'll prob. never know the truth.
 
Originally posted by Luv4Dale8@Sep 7 2003, 04:33 PM
Nobody really know, it's all speculation. Heck, we'll prob. never know the truth.
Precisely, Luv4.

It tickles me that people get all bent out of shape over something that happens between drivers on a racetrack. We will never know what really happened, so why get the bloodpressure up arguing?

:p
 
The only one that gained anything out of that deal was Mayfield. He got around Rudd and Harvick both and got the best finish he's had all year. :eek:
 
I wouldn't have mind seeing ole Jeremy in the Winner Circle. It's been a long time.
 
Originally posted by Gollum@Sep 7 2003, 04:30 PM
Kevin bumped Rudd then Rudd bumped Kevin to win. Thet was two years ago. They haven't had any more dealing with each other untill last night. Rudd knew he didn't have the car to get around Kevin so ht knocked him out of the way to gain a spot and still lost that spot to Mayfield.
Couldn't of said it better myself.
 
If Harvick would have finished 2nd OR 1st, Jr. would have lost 2nd to him.....but Im glad he's holding onto 2nd :)
 
hehe i see "rubbin is racing" being a double edged sword. its good if your driver is the one rubbin and its to his advantage but its bad if its your driver being rubbed. I guess when it all comes down to it, racing is a individual sport. only 1 person is in the drivers seat and only that person knows whats really happening on the track. the rest of US are spectators, speculating what really happening.
 
Originally posted by samcurry@Sep 7 2003, 05:06 PM
hehe i see "rubbin is racing" being a double edged sword. its good if your driver is the one rubbin and its to his advantage but its bad if its your driver being rubbed. I guess when it all comes down to it, racing is a individual sport. only 1 person is in the drivers seat and only that person knows whats really happening on the track. the rest of US are spectators, speculating what really happening.
Again the dancing bug knows what he's talking about. :cheers:
 
Not to start anything, but I just saw the SpeedTV highlights, and it just showed that Ricky Rudd DID throw the HANS back at Kevin. He also was throwing his fists up in the air as if he wanted to fight. So, Kevin wasn't the only one who showed his @$$ last night.
 
I quess that settles some of it then...but Harvick made the situation worse before Rudd threw anything.
 
Well anyway.In my opinion Harvick acted like a fool last night.There are those who disagree,and that's fine.But the next time those two get close to each other on the track we will see who the better sportsman is.I'm thinking it will be Rudd.And if Harvick exacts his revenge after telling the whole world he would?Well then Nascar had better take a long hard look at their sport.And there SHOULD be a huge fine and lengthy suspension.
 
Yeah, rant all you want but look at who's 3rd in points and look who's 23rd in points with only 4 top 10s.
 
Originally posted by Happy29@Sep 7 2003, 05:28 PM
Yarrrgghh, I agree with you both !
That had to be painful. LOL>>>>J/K

I'm not gonna comment on this, because ALL drivers go through bumping someone, throwing something, running to another car like a flock of seagulls, give a driver the 1 finger salute OR taking a swing at another driver. Some act worse than others. Too bad it has to happen But it's the nature of the beast.

Who ever your favorite driver is, they will, at one time or another do one of the above actions.
 
Originally posted by Bucky Badger@Sep 7 2003, 07:37 PM

I'm not gonna comment on this, because ALL drivers go through bumping someone, throwing something, running to another car like a flock of seagulls, give a driver the 1 finger salute OR taking a swing at another driver.

Who ever your favorite driver is, they will, at one time or another do one of the above actions.
Amen.
And, just because we haven't seen some lose their cool in public, doesn't mean it hasn't happened.
 
we have seen this before spencer vs. busch, thats now out the window, and now its harvick vs. rudd. Its starts out at one race then next when harvick trys to pay rudd back for racing hard and knocking him a bit and then it goes on and on . And before long someone will probably get suspended AGAIN if it keeps up. But i told you guys that it would be another drivers turn to be the bad guy, harvicks past is against him. But i spent my time trying to defend kurt. but now im just a spectator on this one.
 
I know I'm a day late on the topic, but after Ricky turned Kevin around, I knew that would be Kevin's reaction...he's so predictable. :rolleyes:

The only thing that floors me in all this is that Kevin had the 'balls' to tell Matt to take it like a man on Friday night & then turns around the next day when it happens to him and acts like a 2 year old baby. What a pity. I think he needs to call Kurt and find out when the anger managemant classes start up.
 
Agreed 17 Fan.I've said very same thing several times in this post.But some of these guys don't get it.There's an old saying..........what's good for the goose is good for the gander!And I'm sure glad Harvick had his chance to "take it like a man".And showed he could not!
 
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