HMS shows its hand but they still are lacking

Regarding Marty versus Shrub if in fact Marty is a decent person he doesn't get credit for it as you are supposed to be decent.

You missed my point. If Kyle is hated...oh, I mean disliked, Martin is really kind of the opposite of that vibe....and if he is hated, uh, I mean, disliked, you begin to wonder who the hell is a driver that might be liked at all.
 
You missed my point. If Kyle is hated...oh, I mean disliked, Martin is really kind of the opposite of that vibe....and if he is hated, uh, I mean, disliked, you begin to wonder who the hell is a driver that might be liked at all.

Jimmie Johnson is the greatest driver of his generation and from articles I have read seems like a genuinely good man who came from humble beginnings and made the most of his opportunities. He has had a miserable year by his standards and the entire team has made several costly gaffs but he has been as cool as a cucumber and totally professional throughout the whole situation. Based upon his skill set, achievements and behavior JJ should have fans crawling out of his hind end but it is not the case. If people haven't flocked to JJ it doesn't surprise me in the least that they pay Marty no heed.
 
I am really glad that Truex has had the success he has had in the 78..... I felt he got a raw deal at MWR..... but... it turned out be a God send. I was afraid after the success that Kurt Busch had with the 78 , Truex couldn't match it and he would be relegated to the minors....... He has really surpassed all my expectations for him.
 
I agree that Truex is not in the same zip code as the Silver Fox but I would also include others like Geoff Bodine and Ricky Rudd too.

You were around then.. I got a question for ya.

Growing up in the 90s, I was a Ricky Rudd fan until he retired. (I'm 24), so when Rudd raced, I was not knoweledgeable of the sport like I am now.

What kind of driver was Ricky? Growing up, he always struck me as okay, to decent. I've seen many talk him up, but 23 wins in almost 30 years, without a title?

He always struck me as a Kasey Kahne calibur driver
 
the 48 car looks really really slow this week I wonder if they are testing something.

I don't think he was even in the top 10 in practice at Charlotte. For all we know, they could have been working on balance.

They have speed, he'll be up front I'd think
 
You were around then.. I got a question for ya.

Growing up in the 90s, I was a Ricky Rudd fan until he retired. (I'm 24), so when Rudd raced, I was not knoweledgeable of the sport like I am now.

What kind of driver was Ricky? Growing up, he always struck me as okay, to decent. I've seen many talk him up, but 23 wins in almost 30 years, without a title?

He always struck me as a Kasey Kahne calibur driver

Realize this, from my limited understanding is that Rudd was very consistent. He was at Hendrick before they really turned into the team they are, he was at RCR while they were still building into an empire, Yates was on the downturn, he had a team on his own, and the Wood Brothers. I mean, 23 wins in 30+ years doesn't sound impressive, but to be honest that is a pretty solid record. Rudd's legacy is not only the fact of him being a durable driver, but he was always competitive in every car he was in. From the time he was an upstart to his last year with Yates, he was always competitive.

Terry Labonte only had 22 wins in 30+ years, the only difference is that he won two championships. After 2003, Terry had a major drop in performance. Nothing like Rudd had, but it was primarily timing and the fact that Rudd liked to work by himself a lot more than anything else. He was a dirt racer that turned into the best racers that the series had and he was phenomenal road racer, Rudd was one of the most fun drivers to watch on the road course.

Some of this I'm unsure of as well, but Rudd was just one of the last from that previous generation before Jeff Gordon to retire and you can say he's similar to a Cal Ripken Jr of NASCAR.
 
You were around then.. I got a question for ya.

Growing up in the 90s, I was a Ricky Rudd fan until he retired. (I'm 24), so when Rudd raced, I was not knoweledgeable of the sport like I am now.

What kind of driver was Ricky? Growing up, he always struck me as okay, to decent. I've seen many talk him up, but 23 wins in almost 30 years, without a title?

He always struck me as a Kasey Kahne calibur driver

Ricky Rudd was a tough customer as was Geoff Bodine and both had talent and won for different owners and as owner drivers. Rudd was excellent at road courses. I would have liked to have seen him get the opportunity that Ernie Irvan did in the 28 car after Davey Allison's death or driving for HMS in the late 90's.
 
Realize this, from my limited understanding is that Rudd was very consistent. He was at Hendrick before they really turned into the team they are, he was at RCR while they were still building into an empire, Yates was on the downturn, he had a team on his own, and the Wood Brothers. I mean, 23 wins in 30+ years doesn't sound impressive, but to be honest that is a pretty solid record. Rudd's legacy is not only the fact of him being a durable driver, but he was always competitive in every car he was in. From the time he was an upstart to his last year with Yates, he was always competitive.

Terry Labonte only had 22 wins in 30+ years, the only difference is that he won two championships. After 2003, Terry had a major drop in performance. Nothing like Rudd had, but it was primarily timing and the fact that Rudd liked to work by himself a lot more than anything else. He was a dirt racer that turned into the best racers that the series had and he was phenomenal road racer, Rudd was one of the most fun drivers to watch on the road course.

Some of this I'm unsure of as well, but Rudd was just one of the last from that previous generation before Jeff Gordon to retire and you can say he's similar to a Cal Ripken Jr of NASCAR.

What differentiates Rudd from Labonte is that Terry won a championship with Billy Hagen.
 
Jimmie Johnson is the greatest driver of his generation and from articles I have read seems like a genuinely good man who came from humble beginnings and made the most of his opportunities. He has had a miserable year by his standards and the entire team has made several costly gaffs but he has been as cool as a cucumber and totally professional throughout the whole situation. Based upon his skill set, achievements and behavior JJ should have fans crawling out of his hind end but it is not the case. If people haven't flocked to JJ it doesn't surprise me in the least that they pay Marty no heed.

I agree 100%. Great damn post, man.
 
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