Home Depot to end JGR sponsorship after 2014

That might end the speculation of a 4th team? Or does that open the door for Subway?
 
That might end the speculation of a 4th team? Or does that open the door for Subway?

I don't think that ends anything really. Dollar General will pick up the slack. We still don't know what part Monster might play in all of this. I get that M&M's is staying with Kyle, but what will Monster's level of involvement be, and what will the ripple effect be? JD did say that they are in better shape right now to go to a fourth team than they have ever been. Do not forget that they will not be announcing anything until September. Carl's gag order is lifted in September.
 
Logano held that sponsorship for 4 years, and Matt lost them already?

It is interesting that the rumor was that Home Depot was unhappy with Joey, and thus the change. Two years in and they are gone. Perhaps another example of sponsors jerking the sport.
 
JGR and Matt stumbled badly in the chase, and now the 20 is off to a slow start. Perhaps HD got outbid by another sponsor, but they sure seem disinterested in nascar.
 
I was somewhat surprised that HD stayed with JGR and didn't follow Tony when the contract with Gibbs was up.
 
I was somewhat surprised that HD stayed with JGR and didn't follow Tony when the contract with Gibbs was up.

I might characterized that relationships as the same type of relationship Mars has with Kyle. Deep commitment to JGR and they put up with the driver.
 
It is interesting that the rumor was that Home Depot was unhappy with Joey, and thus the change. Two years in and they are gone. Perhaps another example of sponsors jerking the sport.
The decision to leave could of been made in the Logano years and their mind was made up despite Kenseth's 7 win season.

They made a mistake in putting Husky Tools on the car so often. Nobody knows or cares that Husky Tools is Home Depot's house brand. Tony Stewart made that orange #20 car famous. Whatever marketing genius ordered that Husky Tools, not the Home Depot master brand, was to be on most of their races on the #20 was an idiot. Could of been a knee jerk reaction to Lowes' Kobalt Tools being on the #48 so often.
 
Home Depot started backing off when Sliced bread was bombing in the 20 car. Tony didn't like running an orange car color scheme, and he puked when Gibbs went to Toyota. Tony was getting backed by Chevrolet in his sprints and late models so he got out ASAP and started his own show. All the while Lowes was getting even bigger with the 48 and Lowes Motor Speedway and the Home Depot car was tanking. IMO the 20 car despite a flutter last year is still tanking compared to the Lowes 48. I think it is like NAPA in a way, they made a good decision to go with Elliott, you see a lot of the Napa car when it is race time. Who knows if Home Depot will continue or call it quits.
 
The decision to leave could of been made in the Logano years and their mind was made up despite Kenseth's 7 win season.

They made a mistake in putting Husky Tools on the car so often. Nobody knows or cares that Husky Tools is Home Depot's house brand. Tony Stewart made that orange #20 car famous. Whatever marketing genius ordered that Husky Tools, not the Home Depot master brand, was to be on most of their races on the #20 was an idiot. Could of been a knee jerk reaction to Lowes' Kobalt Tools being on the #48 so often.

Agreed Kevin. When you say orange 20, you think Tony.
 
I'll be glad If HD leaves Gibbs. Maybe I'll start shopping there once and awhile!
 
If Carl goes to Gibbs, they won't have a problem getting sponsorship. I wonder what Roush will do though since almost every single sponsor at Roush went there because of Carl.
 
The days of measuring successful sponsorship based on how the car finishes on the track are long, Long LONG gone. Problem is, very few marketing folks within NASCAR teams understand this. The ways that they sell, activate and validate sponsorship programs these days is embarrassingly antiquated. That's why, each season, more $$ leaves the sport than enters it. Sponsorship messaging has to reach consumers in so many more meaningful ways than paint & patch TV time. Sadly, I've met very few people within the sport who "get it."
 
The days of measuring successful sponsorship based on how the car finishes on the track are long, Long LONG gone. Problem is, very few marketing folks within NASCAR teams understand this. The ways that they sell, activate and validate sponsorship programs these days is embarrassingly antiquated. That's why, each season, more $$ leaves the sport than enters it. Sponsorship messaging has to reach consumers in so many more meaningful ways than paint & patch TV time. Sadly, I've met very few people within the sport who "get it."
I've thought about that. A paint job and just repeating a sponsor name just doesn't cut it these days.
At least I notice carl always talks about eating subway. Like he's just had a sandwich or when he won the yesterday he said he was off to get a sub.
 
The days of measuring successful sponsorship based on how the car finishes on the track are long, Long LONG gone. Problem is, very few marketing folks within NASCAR teams understand this. The ways that they sell, activate and validate sponsorship programs these days is embarrassingly antiquated. That's why, each season, more $$ leaves the sport than enters it. Sponsorship messaging has to reach consumers in so many more meaningful ways than paint & patch TV time. Sadly, I've met very few people within the sport who "get it."


win on sunday sell on monday does not seem to apply anymore. wish it did
 
The days of measuring successful sponsorship based on how the car finishes on the track are long, Long LONG gone. Problem is, very few marketing folks within NASCAR teams understand this. The ways that they sell, activate and validate sponsorship programs these days is embarrassingly antiquated. That's why, each season, more $$ leaves the sport than enters it. Sponsorship messaging has to reach consumers in so many more meaningful ways than paint & patch TV time. Sadly, I've met very few people within the sport who "get it."

Don't entirely agree. Got to get your name out there is one way for advertising to work, called name recognition. I have never seen or heard of a Jimmy Johns they aren't around here. But because of what Harvick has said and runs on the side of his car I do. Guess that is why most top teams have sponsors that are at least state wide, some are global. Having a car that is up front and getting TV coverage when 5 or 6 million people are watching it is definitely a factor for a sponsor. If that wasn't so, how come Hendrick can charge so much for sponsorship and a backmarker can't find one?
 
There's a company that tally's up how long a car is on camera and the number of times and length of time the sponsor is mentioned. Then they have a method to figure out how much "free" advertising that sponsor got .
I wish I could remember the driver they used as an example but the point of the article was unless you're running up front and winning it's a losing proposition.
 
Don't entirely agree. Got to get your name out there is one way for advertising to work, called name recognition. I have never seen or heard of a Jimmy Johns they aren't around here. But because of what Harvick has said and runs on the side of his car I do. Guess that is why most top teams have sponsors that are at least state wide, some are global. Having a car that is up front and getting TV coverage when 5 or 6 million people are watching it is definitely a factor for a sponsor. If that wasn't so, how come Hendrick can charge so much for sponsorship and a backmarker can't find one?
I never said being a winner, or driving out front didn't work when it happens. I said "the days of measuring successful sponsorship based on how the car finishes on the track are long gone." Trust me...I've sat through sales presentations from just about every single team in the garage. They're mostly the same. "Here's how much each part of the car costs for X number of races, and here's how well we do on the track, so here's how many people should see your message." Honestly...you'd smile if you knew how similar each team's "sales presentations" were. And they always start off with "we're not like any other team." It's actually charming.

The investigation that went into the National Guard is the smoking gun that supports my point. There's no doubt in my mind the National Guard got significant return on investment from their association with Jr. No doubt whatsoever. Problem is, other than Repucom or Joyce Julius numbers showing what kind of race day exposure the brand got - no one else had any kind of other pertinent data. NASCAR sponsorships have got to work harder than race day logo recognition.

Also...many big time NASCAR sponsorships are born from top executives being NASCAR fans (a CEO, President, Marketing Director etc). They typically have personal relationships with the owners (Hendrick, Gibbs, Richard C etc...all guys who usually have very good relationships with, and are responsible for bringing in and keeping many relationships). The relationship tends to last as long as the executives last. Sometimes, the execs are replaced by other execs who are ok with the NASCAR $$. Other times (Office Depot, UPS, many more) an executive is replaced by someone who says "what the hell are we getting out of NASCAR anyway?" It's up to the teams to be able to prove significant ROI...and very few are able. Many sponsorships are a house of cards.

But back to the original point - if you're sitting back until Sunday, and praying the driver and paint scheme does well that day for marketing purposes, you're doing it all wrong. Race day should be the celebration of a successful marketing program, not THE marketing program. Top finishes should be gravy, not turkey.
 
There's a company that tally's up how long a car is on camera and the number of times and length of time the sponsor is mentioned. Then they have a method to figure out how much "free" advertising that sponsor got .
I wish I could remember the driver they used as an example but the point of the article was unless you're running up front and winning it's a losing proposition.
There's a few - we typically use Repucom...I've found it's the most trusted. And yeah, we get detailed reports about 10 days after a race. It's not a perfect science, nor is it a real media analysis...but it can be a very helpful tool, mostly when compared against itself. Still, it's hard to quantify true media value. In other words, :30 seconds of logo over the course of 6 5-second bits won't be nearly as compelling as one :30 commercial where you control the entire message. But like I said, there are good ways to interpret the exposure.

As far as it being a "losing" proposition...again, it depends on the marketing strategy and plan. If the plan is "boy I hope we finish up front!" like a lot of plans are, then yes, it's a "losing proposition" to spend most of the day out of the top 10. But a very small handful of teams/cars actually have it figured out. There's a reason the #47 has so many popular brands on it. It's because they're getting the job done Mon through Sat. JTG (well, Tad) has a very impressive activation plan. It really doesn't matter where AJ finishes. The brands have gotten their money worth in grocery stores surrounding the track all week long.

Measuring race day exposure success also depends on the investment. An $850,000 paint scheme (Hendrick) better perform better than a $100,000 paint scheme (Front Row).
 
that is exactly what you did say: "The days of measuring successful sponsorship based on how the car finishes on the track are long, Long LONG gone" they are not gone is our point. Dance around with the rest of it, yeah we all know that. But the top running cars get to charge the most for sponsorship. That is measuring sponsorship $$$$ based on how a car finishes. If you don't have the money to put up with that outfit that you work for, you are not going to get on a top car. race fan ol' buddy, whatever.
 
The days are gone. Sponsorships need to work harder than just racing up front. The winning cars can charge more because they bring more attention on race day, but still not enough to justify $$. You can disagree with that all you want...most NASCAR people do. And that's why I worry about the future.
 
I would too if I worked for an outfit that can't afford to pay, they might eliminate my job when they take a hike. one word... resume
 
I find that paint schemes have become dull and washed out . With the possible exception of the Go Daddy car , none of them seem to compare with the TIDE , BUD and MILLER schemes from the old days . You could recognize those paint schemes from the damn blimp . What gives Allen ?
 
I would too if I worked for an outfit that can't afford to pay, they might eliminate my job when they take a hike. one word... resume
I don't get it. Are you referring to me? I'm not sure what you think I do, but I assure you it's not dependent on NASCAR one bit. In fact, the worse things are, the more clients I pick up. Funny how that happens. Maybe I actually know what I'm talking about... ;)
 
I find that paint schemes have become dull and washed out . With the possible exception of the Go Daddy car , none of them seem to compare with the TIDE , BUD and MILLER schemes from the old days . You could recognize those paint schemes from the damn blimp . What gives Allen ?
I don't know. Many of the schemes drive me crazy. Many are client (sponsor) designed by their ad agency...and many times, by a designer who knows little about NASCAR.

One of the first things Barney Visser (Furniture Row) asked me when they hired my company to consult was what I thought of the flat black, pretty plain paint scheme. I told him to keep it...it's one of the only constants in the sport these days. He'll still ask me every now and then, and I still give him the same answer, "one of the only ones I can spot without trying."
 
when Tony came into nascar, every word was, he's gonna be a star, the guy wins, Home Depot jumped in the right time, and then when word got out about Tony leaving and this new kid that's winning everything, the greatest thing since slice bread is replacing him. i'm thinking Home Depot thinks they are okay, we'll be alright, we're getting the next star of racing. didn't work out that away, and then the Lowe's car or crew on tv like every 15 seconds it seems, along with the decline in viewing, time has run it's course. that's how i see it.
 
I don't know. Many of the schemes drive me crazy. Many are client (sponsor) designed by their ad agency...and many times, by a designer who knows little about NASCAR.

One of the first things Barney Visser (Furniture Row) asked me when they hired my company to consult was what I thought of the flat black, pretty plain paint scheme. I told him to keep it...it's one of the only constants in the sport these days. He'll still ask me every now and then, and I still give him the same answer, "one of the only ones I can spot without trying."

That's what I meant about the 10 car . I see a lime green paint scheme and my brain says Go Daddy , it 's subliminal .
 
I don't know. Many of the schemes drive me crazy. Many are client (sponsor) designed by their ad agency...and many times, by a designer who knows little about NASCAR.

One of the first things Barney Visser (Furniture Row) asked me when they hired my company to consult was what I thought of the flat black, pretty plain paint scheme. I told him to keep it...it's one of the only constants in the sport these days. He'll still ask me every now and then, and I still give him the same answer, "one of the only ones I can spot without trying."
I hate the weekly paint schemes. I miss the old days when one car had a paint scheme the entire season, with maybe a special one for the Coke 600 or Pepsi 400.

What bothers me the most is when a car has one paint scheme (usually only for one or two race) and the pit crew is wearing uniforms from another paint scheme because the team didn't make up uniforms for just one race. That is the most busch league crap I have ever seen, and some big teams do it, too. I understand that having firesuits made for X amount of guys costs money, but jesus it just looks low-brow.
 
Pretty sure that's the cost of sponsorship just for one race.
Oh. Per race. Got it now. He said "paint scheme" and I thought it was the actual cost decorating the car (lol). DAMN those are some expensive decals.
 
I hate the weekly paint schemes. I miss the old days when one car had a paint scheme the entire season, with maybe a special one for the Coke 600 or Pepsi 400.

What bothers me the most is when a car has one paint scheme (usually only for one or two race) and the pit crew is wearing uniforms from another paint scheme because the team didn't make up uniforms for just one race. That is the most busch league crap I have ever seen, and some big teams do it, too. I understand that having firesuits made for X amount of guys costs money, but jesus it just looks low-brow.

payscale drops like crazy too. Around 40 grand a year for a crewman, and all the travel and hours you can stand. tough if you have a family, the team is not going to pay for their lodging if they come along.
 
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