How hard is it for NASCAR to fix these restarts?

dpkimmel2001 said:
I find that confusing.
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My understanding of the restart rules, pre-change: Once the leader or the flagman starts the restart, all bets are off.

How I thought it should be: Leader should be the first to cross the finish line.

Little did I know NASCAR was doing what I thought the rules should be all along.

That said, I like the changes, because no more weekly restart controversy.
 
KevinWI said:
My understanding of the restart rules, pre-change: Once the leader or the flagman starts the restart, all bets are off.
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I think the old restart zone rule was, when the cars are in the restart zone and the green flag was waiving, the second place car could accelerate before the leader and if he crossed the line first it was allowed.

The new rule seems to be, when the cars are in the restart zone and the green flag was waiving, the second place car must wait for the leader to accelerate, but once he accelerates in the restart zone second place car is allowed to cross the line before the leader.
 
gordonite said:
I think the old restart zone rule was, when the cars are in the restart zone and the green flag was waiving, the second place car could accelerate before the leader and if he crossed the line first it was allowed.

The new rule seems to be, when the cars are in the restart zone and the green flag was waiving, the second place car must wait for the leader to accelerate, but once he accelerates in the restart zone second place car is allowed to cross the line before the leader.
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That's the way I understand it also. Seemed to work last night.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
That's the way I understand it also. Seemed to work last night.
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I agree. At least now second place must wait for the leader to accelerate.

It seems now the leader could hold the restart until he crosses the S/F line he chose.
 
ted@economy said:
New rule ...no rules
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Yeah correct me if I am wrong, but last night Kyle got the point for leading on a restart, when he started in second but came across the line in first. nothing happened..I heard that when they interviewed Kyle after the race. New rule...no rule.
 
StandOnIt said:
Yeah correct me if I am wrong, but last night Kyle got the point for leading on a restart, when he started in second but came across the line in first.
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Now, that seems wrong if they allow that to happen. Do you know what restart that was..... lap #? I just wanted to look that up.
 
The announcers said that as soon as the green flag waves both front row cars go. If the 2nd place driver crosses the line first - he got a faster restart and the point is given to him. Basically a drag race to the line
 
ChexOrWrex said:
The announcers said that as soon as the green flag waves both front row cars go. If the 2nd place driver crosses the line first - he got a faster restart and the point is given to him. Basically a drag race to the line
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Helton was on before the race stating that the leader still starts the race. The announcer was wrong.

It doesn't matter who crosses the line first though, like you said.
 
That's stupid. How can you say that it doesnt matter who crosses first but the leader starts the restart? That only fixes spinning tires. I think the two front row guys should go when the green flag drops and everyone else follow's suit.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Now, that seems wrong if they allow that to happen. Do you know what restart that was..... lap #? I just wanted to look that up.
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no, I was trying to keep the lids open, but I definitely heard it. Kyle was in his usual second place one word answer mode, I do know it was his first interview after the race. I will see if I can find a video of the interview.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
That's stupid. How can you say that it doesnt matter who crosses first but the leader starts the restart? That only fixes spinning tires. I think the two front row guys should go when the green flag drops and everyone else follow's suit.
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The Flagman doesn't restart the race, the leader restarts the race within the restart zone marked by lines on the inside or outside wall. The Flagman watches the leader and when he see's him fire waves the green. The Flagman can deny a restart by not throwing the green.
And the second place car can beat the leader to the line especially if the leader misses a shift, spins the tires etc.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
That's stupid. How can you say that it doesnt matter who crosses first but the leader starts the restart? That only fixes spinning tires. I think the two front row guys should go when the green flag drops and everyone else follow's suit.
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It does not matter who crosses the start finish line first. It does matter who crosses the line for the start box though. The leader still has to be the first to accelerate within the start area. It's really pretty simple. The only change that was made is that it does not matter which of the two cross the start/finish line first.
 
StandOnIt said:
Yeah correct me if I am wrong, but last night Kyle got the point for leading on a restart, when he started in second but came across the line in first.
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dpkimmel2001 said:
Now, that seems wrong if they allow that to happen. Do you know what restart that was..... lap #? I just wanted to look that up.
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That happened on the restart after the competition caution at lap 32.

As it happened I thought that Kyle had jumped the restart and then gave Johnson the lead back to avoid a black flag.

Turns out that Johnson took the lead back almost immediately.
 
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