How one Dodge team took down the mighty HMS/Chevy juggernaut.

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I know most of you never saw it coming, but Jimmie sure knew Brad Keselowski was the greatest threat to JJ's desire to win 8 championships. The real beauty of all this was that BRAD knew what JJ was thinking, and used it against him to get JJ off his game.

Many misunderstood Brad's 'trick rear' rant, but it was an important part of his plans to take down JJ and HMS. Brad knew that HMS took risks with breaking the rules, and he knew their plan was to push the envelope on the rear end rules as soon as the chase started. Brad knew Penske wouldn't risk a penalty, so he spoke up and forced NASCAR to set hard limits that took HMS's chase ace in the hole away.

The fact that Brad came out in Chicago and burned JJ down while he was driving Chads very best 1.5 car, one that hadn't lost a race and was saved for the chase, sure knocked Chad and JJ off balance right from the start. Brad even threw in a smack at JJ's whole 'show me extra respect' nonsense by not using his blinker when merging off pit road. Brad knew JJ was so overly sensitive on the respect subject, that's all it would take to get JJ to get off his game and play brad's game...hard racing.

For the next few races, JJ seemed focused on getting Brad back by going out of his way to crowd him or run him up or down the track. When Texas rolled around, Brad knew he could race JJ hard, and JJ wouldn't be able to yammer about how respectfully he had been racing Brad, and how he didn't deserve that, etc. Mission accomplished.

Brad then wins Dover on fuel strategy, and that really pissed Chad off. That loss and the #2's 1.5 speed obviously led to Chad adjusting the 48's power for fuel saving, and that led to a hugely risky call at Charlotte when Kez was again kicking his ass. Limping around on fuel strategy for 110 laps shows how badly he was being beaten on speed. When the 48 team decides not to race for a championship, it's big news. JJ got lucky with 110 laps of green flag racing, but it was clear that Paul had gotten the 48 team off their game.

Meanwhile, JJ got tired of chasing Brad in the points, so he ends up overdriving a winning car right into the wall. Kansas was JJ's immitation of Denny at Homestead, and the overdriving wouldn't end there. Poor 5 time thought he would get a huge point lead after Denny's car crapped out at Martinsville and handed him the win. He seemed deflated when he saw how close Kez still was. So much so, JJ felt the need to try and get into Brads head to gain an advantage. All his heavy handed efforts only served to let Brad know that he had old 5 time REAL worried. Brads response that "Surely he is trying to apply pressure. Surely none is felt" stunned JJ into realizing Brad wasn't going to fold and hand him a championship the way Denny did in 2010.

The pressure was on 5 time, and Brad threw a bucket of cold reality on JJ's head at Texas. Beating him on 2 restarts while on old tires while rubbing and banging confirmed to JJ that he had let Brad change the rules, and now JJ wasn't sure how to handle it. Needing 2 lucky yellows and new tires to beat Brad's old tires showed their weakness.

Phoenix was the final example of Brad applying pressure, and JJ folding. All was good until Brad drove hard and took the lead. The panicked call went out to JJ. "Pick up the pace". Bad move at a track know for melting beads, and JJ didn't manage that because he was focused on catching Brad and he melted the bead (confirmed by Goodyear after the race) and hit the wall.

With the dropped lug at Homestead, the dismantling of HMS was complete. By finishing 15th, Brad and Paul showed they didn't need any help to beat 5 time, and now JJ's hope of winning 8 have evaporated into a misty dream. Jimmie knows Brad and Paul aren't the type to sit back and live on that one championship, and he knows they will get better and better. It won't take long for JJ to start talking about how the switch to Ford will hold the #2 team back for a year or 2, but he himself won't believe what he is saying. Brad has the 2 team on top, and he plans to keep them there. He certainly has the will, focus and dedication to do it.

This shocking turn of fortune even has Rick rethinking his decision to pass on Keselowski. Ricks comment that he had told Roger Brad was on loan was a sign of his desperation. Jr and Gordon are longshots, and Kahne keeps wrecking cars. JJ and Chad are on the down slope of their careers, with Chad set to retire in 2015. Meanwhile, the richest man in motorsports is focused on NASCAR for the first time in his racing career, and has a 28 year old champion guided by a crew chief fresh off his 2nd year in cup.

The future for Penske and Ford is very bright indeed. Not so much for Chevy and HMS. I'm sorry if the new reality hurts, but all good things must come to an end.
 
Bravo! I certainly have to applaud all of the effort that you put into that post.

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No doubt, you too may some day be part of this noble list.
 
Nice well thought out post Fender. The #2 team beat the #48 team fair and square. I think the 48 team is still the gold standard for now. The pressure will be on Penske to stay on top (or near the top). I don't think changing from Dodge to Ford will make any difference for Penske.
 
Nice well thought out post Fender. The #2 team beat the #48 team fair and square. I think the 48 team is still the gold standard for now. The pressure will be on Penske to stay on top (or near the top). I don't think changing from Dodge to Ford will make any difference for Penske.

I think it will test Brad more tahn anyone else at Penske. It takes him a little longer to figure out new cars and tracks, but he seems to hold it once he does. I was going to predict 10 wins for him next season, but that may have to wait until 2014.

Then again, before the chase started, I doubted he would win it. Silly me. ;)
 
Got it, Brad had a great year, so this has to mean the future is dark and dreary for Hendricks and Chevy. No need to track future points, bad Brad is set to rule.

I must say I have never seen the Jeff Gordon school girls flaunt their man so shamelessly. Even when I had "Earnhardt one tough customer , 7 time champ fixin to rough up your grass real good" tattooed on my personal parts I only showed it to gfs, family members, and personal ads.

Brad, Brad I know you are lurking and you love this type of stuff. But Come on man, enough is enough. Register yourself and ask Fender to marry you today!!!

Because if that doesn't work I just don't know what he will do. And if you ain't at least pm me, so I can go ahead and complete the specs for his set of Brad dolls before Christmas.
 
Got it, Brad had a great year, so this has to mean the future is dark and dreary for Hendricks and Chevy. No need to track future points, bad Brad is set to rule.

I must say I have never seen the Jeff Gordon school girls flaunt their man so shamelessly. Even when I had "Earnhardt one tough customer , 7 time champ fixin to rough up your grass real good" tattooed on my personal parts I only showed it to gfs, family members, and personal ads.

Brad, Brad I know you are lurking and you love this type of stuff. But Come on man, enough is enough. Register yourself and ask Fender to marry you today!!!

Because if that doesn't work I just don't know what he will do. And if you ain't at least pm me, so I can go ahead and complete the specs for his set of Brad dolls before Christmas.

Keep it up and I'll post pics of my tattoo, and not just on Flicker like you did with yours.
 
There's no comparing Dodge vs Chevrolet. Chevrolet won it's 10th consecutive manufacturers' title and had double the wins of Dodge. Comparing Brad to Jimmie, if Brad can whip out 4 more titles and 52 more wins I'll be open to that then.;)
 
There's no comparing Dodge vs Chevrolet. Chevrolet won it's 10th consecutive manufacturers' title and had double the wins of Dodge. Comparing Brad to Jimmie, if Brad can whip out 4 more titles and 52 more wins I'll be open to that then.;)

I don't blame you for reminiscing about past glory. Get used to it. :cool:
 
As a Chevy guy, Kez winning must burn you ass.



;)

Not at all. As a Chevy guy I realize that we won the most races and the manufacturers' championship. So NASCAR changed the rear end rule at the beginning of the Chase and my BFF's driver won the championship, I'm okay with it:p
 
Not at all. As a Chevy guy I realize that we won the most races and the manufacturers' championship. So NASCAR changed the rear end rule at the beginning of the Chase and my BFF's driver won the championship, I'm okay with it:p

I'm just happy Rick didn't call in Middlebrook to overrule nascar again. :p

The new car apparently will end the whole rear shifting era. We'll see.

Crap, I missed the BFF thing. Have you become a Matty Toadie? ;)
 
Yeah, there's no rear sway bar anymore. I wish NASCAR would let these guys be more innovative. They're making it to easy on tech inspectors these days.

IDK. I'm wondering if the swaybar offset evened things out too much on the straights, but I would like to see more room for innovation.
 
I know most of you never saw it coming, but Jimmie sure knew Brad Keselowski was the greatest threat to JJ's desire to win 8 championships. The real beauty of all this was that BRAD knew what JJ was thinking, and used it against him to get JJ off his game.

Many misunderstood Brad's 'trick rear' rant, but it was an important part of his plans to take down JJ and HMS. Brad knew that HMS took risks with breaking the rules, and he knew their plan was to push the envelope on the rear end rules as soon as the chase started. Brad knew Penske wouldn't risk a penalty, so he spoke up and forced NASCAR to set hard limits that took HMS's chase ace in the hole away.

The fact that Brad came out in Chicago and burned JJ down while he was driving Chads very best 1.5 car, one that hadn't lost a race and was saved for the chase, sure knocked Chad and JJ off balance right from the start. Brad even threw in a smack at JJ's whole 'show me extra respect' nonsense by not using his blinker when merging off pit road. Brad knew JJ was so overly sensitive on the respect subject, that's all it would take to get JJ to get off his game and play brad's game...hard racing.

For the next few races, JJ seemed focused on getting Brad back by going out of his way to crowd him or run him up or down the track. When Texas rolled around, Brad knew he could race JJ hard, and JJ wouldn't be able to yammer about how respectfully he had been racing Brad, and how he didn't deserve that, etc. Mission accomplished.

Brad then wins Dover on fuel strategy, and that really pissed Chad off. That loss and the #2's 1.5 speed obviously led to Chad adjusting the 48's power for fuel saving, and that led to a hugely risky call at Charlotte when Kez was again kicking his ass. Limping around on fuel strategy for 110 laps shows how badly he was being beaten on speed. When the 48 team decides not to race for a championship, it's big news. JJ got lucky with 110 laps of green flag racing, but it was clear that Paul had gotten the 48 team off their game.

Meanwhile, JJ got tired of chasing Brad in the points, so he ends up overdriving a winning car right into the wall. Kansas was JJ's immitation of Denny at Homestead, and the overdriving wouldn't end there. Poor 5 time thought he would get a huge point lead after Denny's car crapped out at Martinsville and handed him the win. He seemed deflated when he saw how close Kez still was. So much so, JJ felt the need to try and get into Brads head to gain an advantage. All his heavy handed efforts only served to let Brad know that he had old 5 time REAL worried. Brads response that "Surely he is trying to apply pressure. Surely none is felt" stunned JJ into realizing Brad wasn't going to fold and hand him a championship the way Denny did in 2010.

The pressure was on 5 time, and Brad threw a bucket of cold reality on JJ's head at Texas. Beating him on 2 restarts while on old tires while rubbing and banging confirmed to JJ that he had let Brad change the rules, and now JJ wasn't sure how to handle it. Needing 2 lucky yellows and new tires to beat Brad's old tires showed their weakness.

Phoenix was the final example of Brad applying pressure, and JJ folding. All was good until Brad drove hard and took the lead. The panicked call went out to JJ. "Pick up the pace". Bad move at a track know for melting beads, and JJ didn't manage that because he was focused on catching Brad and he melted the bead (confirmed by Goodyear after the race) and hit the wall.

With the dropped lug at Homestead, the dismantling of HMS was complete. By finishing 15th, Brad and Paul showed they didn't need any help to beat 5 time, and now JJ's hope of winning 8 have evaporated into a misty dream. Jimmie knows Brad and Paul aren't the type to sit back and live on that one championship, and he knows they will get better and better. It won't take long for JJ to start talking about how the switch to Ford will hold the #2 team back for a year or 2, but he himself won't believe what he is saying. Brad has the 2 team on top, and he plans to keep them there. He certainly has the will, focus and dedication to do it.

This shocking turn of fortune even has Rick rethinking his decision to pass on Keselowski. Ricks comment that he had told Roger Brad was on loan was a sign of his desperation. Jr and Gordon are longshots, and Kahne keeps wrecking cars. JJ and Chad are on the down slope of their careers, with Chad set to retire in 2015. Meanwhile, the richest man in motorsports is focused on NASCAR for the first time in his racing career, and has a 28 year old champion guided by a crew chief fresh off his 2nd year in cup.

The future for Penske and Ford is very bright indeed. Not so much for Chevy and HMS. I'm sorry if the new reality hurts, but all good things must come to an end.
My god Fender, you have no shame. :eek:
 
First please read this post in Don Pardo voice for the most satisfying experience.

Well, well we have learnt so many magnificent wonderful magnificent wonderful magnificent wonderful things about Brad in the last few glorious weeks.
We also learnt Brad was more poor than anyone ever and still beated the rich SOBs, and that he has the most guts, and grit and all the Brad Bad Good stuff.

Now get out your hankies, cause you fixing to feel the heart, soul, the spirits of
Brad the modern day little engine that could pull a train just cause he knowed he could all the time

Oh Brad, Brad, I love you forever always, you are just the bestest..
 
First please read this post in Don Pardo voice for the most satisfying experience.

Well, well we have learnt so many magnificent wonderful magnificent wonderful magnificent wonderful things about Brad in the last few glorious weeks.
We also learnt Brad was more poor than anyone ever and still beated the rich SOBs, and that he has the most guts, and grit and all the Brad Bad Good stuff.

Now get out your hankies, cause you fixing to feel the heart, soul, the spirits of
Brad the modern day little engine that could pull a train just cause he knowed he could all the time

Oh Brad, Brad, I love you forever always, you are just the bestest..

lol Now here's a guy who knows how to play along. :cheers:
 
I've been thinking about this thread this morning.

And I have come to one question.

Instead of asking JJ 5 time champ what it's like to get beat by Brad.
I would like to ask Kevin Harvick, Carl Edwards, Denny Hamlin, Kyle Busch, etc. how their year was.
Gut checks, (if such a thing exists) are what these guys are doing now.
 
I've been thinking about this thread this morning.

And I have come to one question.

Instead of asking JJ 5 time champ what it's like to get beat by Brad.
I would like to ask Kevin Harvick, Carl Edwards, Denny Hamlin, Kyle Busch, etc. how their year was.
Gut checks, (if such a thing exists) are what these guys are doing now.

Very true. I'm sure a few of those guys feel a little hurt they spent 10 years trying to get a championship and couldn't.
 
Very true. I'm sure a few of those guys feel a little hurt they spent 10 years trying to get a championship and couldn't.
And now they have some time before the season starts to worry about Brad as well as Jimmie, Tony and Jeff.
Time to digg deep. This could be a season for the record books in 2013. I'm looking forward to it.

And think about being Jack R. His company is up against the wall now. They have to show Ford they are worth the support money. Cause the Captain's ship has set sail.
 
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And now they have some time before the season starts to worry about Brad as well as Jimmie, Tony and Jeff.
Time to digg deep. This could be a season for the record books in 2013. I'm looking forward to it.

And think about being Jack R. His company is up against the wall now. They have to show Ford they are worth the support money. Cause the Captain's ship has set sail.

Someone said during the banquet that Jack looked very old and very tired, and they sure did. Jacks on brightspot is 3M, while Carl is a big financial drain that probably led to Matt finding a team with some money left for him. RCR is limping along so bad, Burton started tweeting like a maniac to finally do his part to hold a sponsor, because he sure as hell isn't competitive. Richard is praying the Dillon boys pay off soon.
 
If guys like Chip Gnassi can fund teams, RCR will be just fine.

What is Jamie Mac going to do without Bass Pro? Or are they going to sponsor the 14 and the 1?
 
Ok guys
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time to pick your favorite hunk

Justin Beaver or bad Bad BAd BRAD K
 
If guys like Chip Gnassi can fund teams, RCR will be just fine.

What is Jamie Mac going to do without Bass Pro? Or are they going to sponsor the 14 and the 1?

IDK what the story is with Jamie. A bunch of guys went invisible this past year.
 
The response by Groundpounder (post #22) was funny and directly suggested the post instigating that specific reply was inappropriate.
To those not familiar with the circumstances, the post contained a comment that mentioned political personalities and was contained within a reply on the NASCAR chat forum which, in turn, prompted the reply from Groundpounder; "smells like Podium."

The reference to political personalities was, admittedly, inappropriate for the NASCAR chat forum. If posted anywhere, it should have been posted on the Podium and not on NASCAR chat.

Good job by Groundpounder and to the moderator(s) for picking up on the political comment and for maintaining control of the forum. Kudos!
 
The response by Groundpounder (post #22) was funny and directly suggested the post instigating that specific reply was inappropriate.
To those not familiar with the circumstances, the post contained a comment that mentioned political personalities and was contained within a reply on the NASCAR chat forum which, in turn, prompted the reply from Groundpounder; "smells like Podium."

The reference to political personalities was, admittedly, inappropriate for the NASCAR chat forum. If posted anywhere, it should have been posted on the Podium and not on NASCAR chat.

Good job by Groundpounder and to the moderator(s) for picking up on the political comment and for maintaining control of the forum. Kudos!

yeah, ok
 
He manned up, he admiitted what he said was political in nature and inappropriate for this section. Yet we have the OP with a new sig line that references him and appears to be gloating. Shame.
 
I know most of you never saw it coming, but Jimmie sure knew Brad Keselowski was the greatest threat to JJ's desire to win 8 championships. The real beauty of all this was that BRAD knew what JJ was thinking, and used it against him to get JJ off his game.

Many misunderstood Brad's 'trick rear' rant, but it was an important part of his plans to take down JJ and HMS. Brad knew that HMS took risks with breaking the rules, and he knew their plan was to push the envelope on the rear end rules as soon as the chase started. Brad knew Penske wouldn't risk a penalty, so he spoke up and forced NASCAR to set hard limits that took HMS's chase ace in the hole away.

The fact that Brad came out in Chicago and burned JJ down while he was driving Chads very best 1.5 car, one that hadn't lost a race and was saved for the chase, sure knocked Chad and JJ off balance right from the start. Brad even threw in a smack at JJ's whole 'show me extra respect' nonsense by not using his blinker when merging off pit road. Brad knew JJ was so overly sensitive on the respect subject, that's all it would take to get JJ to get off his game and play brad's game...hard racing.

For the next few races, JJ seemed focused on getting Brad back by going out of his way to crowd him or run him up or down the track. When Texas rolled around, Brad knew he could race JJ hard, and JJ wouldn't be able to yammer about how respectfully he had been racing Brad, and how he didn't deserve that, etc. Mission accomplished.

Brad then wins Dover on fuel strategy, and that really pissed Chad off. That loss and the #2's 1.5 speed obviously led to Chad adjusting the 48's power for fuel saving, and that led to a hugely risky call at Charlotte when Kez was again kicking his ass. Limping around on fuel strategy for 110 laps shows how badly he was being beaten on speed. When the 48 team decides not to race for a championship, it's big news. JJ got lucky with 110 laps of green flag racing, but it was clear that Paul had gotten the 48 team off their game.

Meanwhile, JJ got tired of chasing Brad in the points, so he ends up overdriving a winning car right into the wall. Kansas was JJ's immitation of Denny at Homestead, and the overdriving wouldn't end there. Poor 5 time thought he would get a huge point lead after Denny's car crapped out at Martinsville and handed him the win. He seemed deflated when he saw how close Kez still was. So much so, JJ felt the need to try and get into Brads head to gain an advantage. All his heavy handed efforts only served to let Brad know that he had old 5 time REAL worried. Brads response that "Surely he is trying to apply pressure. Surely none is felt" stunned JJ into realizing Brad wasn't going to fold and hand him a championship the way Denny did in 2010.

The pressure was on 5 time, and Brad threw a bucket of cold reality on JJ's head at Texas. Beating him on 2 restarts while on old tires while rubbing and banging confirmed to JJ that he had let Brad change the rules, and now JJ wasn't sure how to handle it. Needing 2 lucky yellows and new tires to beat Brad's old tires showed their weakness.

Phoenix was the final example of Brad applying pressure, and JJ folding. All was good until Brad drove hard and took the lead. The panicked call went out to JJ. "Pick up the pace". Bad move at a track know for melting beads, and JJ didn't manage that because he was focused on catching Brad and he melted the bead (confirmed by Goodyear after the race) and hit the wall.

With the dropped lug at Homestead, the dismantling of HMS was complete. By finishing 15th, Brad and Paul showed they didn't need any help to beat 5 time, and now JJ's hope of winning 8 have evaporated into a misty dream. Jimmie knows Brad and Paul aren't the type to sit back and live on that one championship, and he knows they will get better and better. It won't take long for JJ to start talking about how the switch to Ford will hold the #2 team back for a year or 2, but he himself won't believe what he is saying. Brad has the 2 team on top, and he plans to keep them there. He certainly has the will, focus and dedication to do it.

This shocking turn of fortune even has Rick rethinking his decision to pass on Keselowski. Ricks comment that he had told Roger Brad was on loan was a sign of his desperation. Jr and Gordon are longshots, and Kahne keeps wrecking cars. JJ and Chad are on the down slope of their careers, with Chad set to retire in 2015. Meanwhile, the richest man in motorsports is focused on NASCAR for the first time in his racing career, and has a 28 year old champion guided by a crew chief fresh off his 2nd year in cup.

The future for Penske and Ford is very bright indeed. Not so much for Chevy and HMS. I'm sorry if the new reality hurts, but all good things must come to an end.
Good read FenderBumper. right to the point, I couldn't have said it better. I am one proud race fan of Dodge and Brad. Have a great Christmas and Newyear..........Wynn
 
Good read FenderBumper. right to the point, I couldn't have said it better. I am one proud race fan of Dodge and Brad. Have a great Christmas and Newyear..........Wynn

Thanks, and hapy holidays to you and yours. I did go a bit overboard to stir things up, but Penske did a hell of a job this year.....Bob.
 
I can't wait till 13. It's going to be a REAL FORD VS CHEVY. Im wetting myself right now thinking about it. :whoopee:
 
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