How one Dodge team took down the mighty HMS/Chevy juggernaut.

ozz said:
But seriously, do you really believe the Bow Tie is coming undone that easy.
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Dodge did loosen the knot this year, and I think there are a few guys at Penske who will be sure to tell Ford what they need to loosen it further.
 
FenderBumper said:
Dodge did loosen the knot this year, and I think there are a few guys at Penske who will be sure to tell Ford what they need to loosen it further.
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Hahahahahahaha!!! That's one hell of a holiday punch you're drinking!!! Fo*d has been a dog chasing it's tail for 10 years now and Dodge didn't help anybody's cause this year.
 
Thegroundpounder99 said:
Hahahahahahaha!!! That's one hell of a holiday punch you're drinking!!! Fo*d has been a dog chasing it's tail for 10 years now and Dodge didn't help anybody's cause this year.
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Nobody? Surely you heared of this guy...


I realize he isn't wearing a bowtie, but he does exist. :)
 
I realize all this is hard for you Chevy guys to take. Poor Rick missed out on 200 wins at Martinsville, and poor 5 time has been stuck with the same name since 2010. I hope this Christmas card makes it all a little easier to take.

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FenderBumper said:
I realize all this is hard for you Chevy guys to take. Poor Rick missed out on 200 wins at Martinsville, and poor 5 time has been stuck with the same name since 2010. I hope this Christmas card makes it all a little easier to take.

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I can't see it!!! I got 36 of these blocking my vision!!!

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It's the Manufacturers' Championship trophy;) I know you haven't seen one before:D
 
As a long time Chevy fan, i've never been a fan of Dodge cars but I couldn't help but root a little for Brad. If I didn't know where he was originally from I'd swear he was from the Carolinas, great job this past season, he & Roger for sure deserve all the praise. Jimmie will be ok, heck even if Brad didn't win, he'd still have lost to Clint. Great run for all 3 drivers, cant wait till next season...
 
It sure is an interesting exercise to look at the upcoming year in terms of how you expect each brand to perform , then how you see each team performing and then individual drivers . There are a lot of aspects to this sport.
 
Brad brilliance becomes more profound everyday.

For 2013 going stealth and looking lame in order to continue to shut down the Hendrix dynasty is pure brilliance.

Jimmie has to be over confident now....
 
What ever jimmy and chad got going on is still working.to do what they are doing is unheard of. yes it was great to see Brad win it.
 
I could be wrong, but the fact that all of NASCAR racing and racers are being defined and compared to Jimmie and Chad not to mention Hendrick pretty much tells me that I cheer for the right team! However with that said...I think Brad raced his dodge off to win the championship and I'm very proud of him for it, but where is he now and where is Jimmie ?
 
To be fair a lot of bad luck has happened to Brad. And Paul Wolfe being gone also doesn't help.

That said, Jimmie has been on top every week so far this year (I think). If there wasn't a chase...
 
Wow, had to go back into the archives to dig up this thread.

I'm gonna go look for the thread about how Tony Stewart and Pontiac took down the Jeff Gordon/Chevy juggernaut... ;)
 
Captain Coyfish said:
To be fair a lot of bad luck has happened to Brad. And Paul Wolfe being gone also doesn't help.

That said, Jimmie has been on top every week so far this year (I think). If there wasn't a chase...
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I think his rants and talk about being the leader of the drivers distracted him a bit, but he has had some bad luck. I think Paul will get him to just shut up and drive from now on, which is what he needs to do until he gets back on track.
 
ToyYoda said:
Wow, had to go back into the archives to dig up this thread.

I'm gonna go look for the thread about how Tony Stewart and Pontiac took down the Jeff Gordon/Chevy juggernaut... ;)
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This one couldn't be forgotten, this thread goes into the Hall with Brad around 2030, or Dodge hangs it in their showrooms as a testimony to the results of leaving the brand. Or the anti P.O.S.hit league publishes it to warn others about what a Ford can do to a man.
:)
The only absolute is that Chevy will keep racking up the titles.
And I think 2 out of 3 Tony titles were in a Chevy.
 
ToyYoda said:
Wow, had to go back into the archives to dig up this thread.

I'm gonna go look for the thread about how Tony Stewart and Pontiac took down the Jeff Gordon/Chevy juggernaut... ;)
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...we hold our collective breath and wait...........
 
Kez's leader thing isn't going too well.

A newly crowned champion, Brad Keselowski proclaimed at last year’s Sprint Cup banquet he wanted to be a leader in NASCAR.
That was nearly six months ago. He’s been outspoken since, even lectured by NASCAR Chairman Brian France for some of his comments. But the question is does the garage need a leader? Will they listen to Keselowski?

“If he’s called any meetings to order, I wasn’t invited to them,” Matt Kenseth, the 2003 Cup champion, said when asked if Keselowski was a leader. “Brad is very obviously opinionated, and he has definitely his own ideas. And I’m sure some of his ideas are shared by some, not sure by all necessarily. I think that’s a good thing. I think that’s what makes Brad Brad.
“I don’t know what a leader means. I know he’s not my leader. I don’t know if he’s a leader of the drivers.”

Said Ryan Newman: "A leader is somebody you look up to."
Does Newman look up to Keselowski?
"Only when I’m standing next to him," Newman said.

Jeff Burton isn’t surprised by such comments.
"I think the garage is full of opinionated people, Type-A personalties, and I don’t think this whole garage is full of people that want to be led," he said. "I think the garage is certainly full of people who want to contribute. I think the garage enjoys when someone leads in areas, but a person can’t lead in every area.

Kez's response:

“Why I want a voice is quite simple: I consider my legacy in this sport to be defined by if I was able to contribute something back,” said Keselowski, who in 2010 began his Checkered Flag Foundation to benefit veterans and first responders. “I’ll live and die by knowing in the back of my mind and in my heart that I’ve made the sport a better place and that my ability to make a living in this sport served a greater purpose.”

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Honorable goal, but he's going about it the wrong way. Hopefully, he learned some lessons this year.
 
Greg said:
This one couldn't be forgotten, this thread goes into the Hall with Brad around 2030, or Dodge hangs it in their showrooms as a testimony to the results of leaving the brand. Or the anti P.O.S.hit league publishes it to warn others about what a Ford can do to a man.
:)
The only absolute is that Chevy will keep racking up the titles.
And I think 2 out of 3 Tony titles were in a Chevy.
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Brad will only be 46 in 2030, he may still be driving...
 
FenderBumper said:
Kez's leader thing isn't going too well.

Kez's response . “I’ll live and die by knowing in the back of my mind and in my heart that I’ve made the sport a better place and that my ability to make a living in this sport served a greater purpose.”

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Honorable goal, but he's going about it the wrong way. Hopefully, he learned some lessons this year.
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True but Kez is forgivable imo.
He is young and a big dreamer, maybe by the time he gets the talk right, he may be to old, we are all just human.
The best respect I can think of at the moment was Petty/Pearson. Everybody respected them and they respected others especially each other.
Fancy speeches will not get him there just the driving.
And Brad is a great driver that is just letting his talk overshadow his incredibie year (2012).
If the thread was limited to 2012, it would be spot on.

This will make some cringe, but Brad reminds me of DW late 's 70's early 80's. DW was a bigger motormouth, but Brad 2013 with the talk and combined social media is very similar. Two intelligent great drivers letting their mouths overshadow some more worthy driving moments.
Well DW was more toxic, just thinking of noise output
 
In order to be a leader you have to draw respect from your fellow drivers, and I think Brad probably annoys them more then draws any respect from them. If he wants to be their leader then he needs to prove to them that his championship was not a fluke and that he can win more then one championship. If he can win 6 championships then other drivers may start looking up to him. Talk is cheap...actions speak louder then words.
 
If Keselowski drove the way he talks, he'd be the most hated driver in the garage. I consider him, along with Earnhardt and Kahne, to be the cleaner drivers in cup and can see a day when most of the other drivers look up to him but he can't just simply take it. He's going to have to learn diplomacy first.
 
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