How to fix Nascar

Get rid of rich spoiled brats and make them earn their way to the top series...Remember back in the day when they started out working in the shop or mowing lawns and sleeping on couches.

I think they should do a minimum 3 years in the trucks and 3 years in Nationwide, before they can get a cup ride.
 
I vote get rid of the Lucky Dog all together. With the addition of the wave around what's the point of the LD? Just to get the Aarons logo on TV???
 
1. Get rid of the chase. Want to win the championship, then win the most races.
2. Do away with the top 35. Make every driver qualify for every race. If Dale Jr or Jimmie don't make the race, oh well. There will still be 43 drivers on the track. Maybe they'd make it the next week.
3. If they have to keep the lucky dog, which they shouldn't, make it so no driver can get it more than once per race.
4. If qualifying gets rained out, set the starting order by the previous weeks finish.
5. For the Nationwide, limit the amount of cup drivers in each race.
6. Make all drivers watch the truck series and learn how exciting it can be to the fans when they actually race.

I love #2 and #5 but I feel anyone who is fulltime in cup for more than 2 years should not race nationwide, or allowed only so many races in nationwide.
 
All of you who want the "good ole' days" back, go look at the history books. Back then, races were decided by miles and laps, not car-lengths and seconds. The racing wasn't better, it just wasn't.

I'm so sick of hearing this "good ole days of NASCAR" crap.

That really isn't what I was am suggesting anyway and I didn't explain it very well. I think the cars need to at least LOOK like they are stock if you are going to call them stock. NASCAR would do well by the manufacturer sponsors if they could at least get the cars to sort of look like their production counterparts. Like I said before...with all the money being thrown around in NASCAR there ought to be a way to make all those different body styles competitive.

Get rid of the rear wing (and splitter) and add a spoiler and you have to admit that a Rolex Camaro would look sah-weet screaming down the front-stretch at Daytona...

And chrome rims. I think stock cars look awesome with chrome rims. Black rims look so blah.
 
Get rid of the rear wing (and splitter) and add a spoiler and you have to admit that a Rolex Camaro would look sah-weet screaming down the front-stretch at Daytona...

And chrome rims. I think stock cars look awesome with chrome rims. Black rims look so blah.

I don't have to agree, personaly I think that is butt-ugly
 
Isn't this something. All those years that I heard people complaing about NASCAR changing the rules now want to change everything themselves.
 
Isn't this something. All those years that I heard people complaing about NASCAR changing the rules now want to change everything themselves.
Changing/bending rules the way NA__AR has done (Chosen 35, new race car, phantom debris cautions, a phony playoff system, putting the "Market" ahead of tradition and competition (Giving up the Southern 500 at Darlington for the POS track in California), etc., etc., is one thing . Changing the rules to improve competition is something else entirely. :)

Note all the changes made in Bill Jr.'s later years and since Brian has taken control of NASCAR. How many of those changes could be even remotely regarded as successful? Safety is about the only one I can think of and NA__AR was dragged kicking and screaming into that. It took Dale's death for NASCAR to get serious about driver restraints. Remember Mike Helton's statement about the Safer Barriers? 'The cure will be worse than the disease!"

All most of us who are asking for, as far as change goes, is just for things to be returned to close to state that they were in when NA__AR was successful, popular, growing slowly and the drivers were actually racing each other.
 
You can't please everyone, and one man's improvement is another's anethma. NASCAR came up with the COT to try to end all the bickering about one manufacturer having a supposed rule advantage over another, but all it did was launch a new wave of discontent. I don't envy them one bit.
 
One has but to look at the various experiences in watching NASCAR Cup racing and one can see a plethora of opinions. Those of us who have been watching the sport for well over 20 years has seen a huge change in the sport, while those who have only been fans for less than 10 years have seen much less change, nonetheless change.

It's been said many times before that what made NASCAR wasn't so much the competition but rather the rivalry that it produced and usually there was only one or two real "top dogs". Well today, anyone of 15 or 20 drivers are capable of winning.

It's also clear that many people want to live in the past as though technology has stopped. You can't go back to what we had in the 70's, 80's or 90's just as we no longer have drivers like Petty, Earnhardt, Waltrip, Allison, Pearson, et al. Racing back when those guys were racing was totally different than it is today, yet the object is still the same, getting across that finish line first. As long as the racing is competitive, it's fine with me, no matter what the cars look like. Just last night, at Bowman Gray Stadium, the Bandoleros and Legend cars raced and what a show they put on (the track is perfect for those cars). One of the best races I've seen all of this year pit 8 to 13 year olds against one another. As to how I would make NASCAR better, I don't think there is a way to make it better. It really is up to the drivers and how hungry they are for the win.
 
It's also clear that many people want to live in the past as though technology has stopped. You can't go back to what we had in the 70's, 80's or 90's just as we no longer have drivers like Petty, Earnhardt, Waltrip, Allison, Pearson, et al. Racing back when those guys were racing was totally different than it is today, yet the object is still the same, getting across that finish line first. As long as the racing is competitive, it's fine with me, no matter what the cars look like. .
You wrote a good piece, Buck. I omitted most of it in this quote because I agree with all that you said. I do have a couple of retorts as to the above section.

(a) It's also clear that many people want to live in the past as though technology has stopped. Speaking only for myself I have no desire to revisit those eras, for multiple reasons. I also am not adverse to technology. In fact, I wish NA__AR would advance to the 21st century and allow fuel injection, FWD and all the other technological advancements made in the automotive field. The technology involved in the advances in safety speak for themselves, and I assure you I have quibble with that. But don't confuse technology and the actual racing of past decades; it's apples and oranges.

(b) just as we no longer have drivers like Petty, Earnhardt, Waltrip, Allison, Pearson, et al. Racing back when those guys were racing was totally different than it is today, yet the object is still the same, getting across that finish line first. Sure we do. Shrub, for one. Greg Biffle for two... It's the constraints that NA__AR and the corporate sponsor place upon them that is different. That and the fact that they no longer have to race for food money, though if you examine the history you'll find that in their hey days the ones you mention didn't either. They were comparatively pretty solid in their finances. The big difference is that the Championship didn't have the high priority it does today. Junior Johnson, in an interview with Bob Jenkins, of ESPN, said it best, "The Championship didn't mean that much to me. The money was in the winning and I always figured that if I won the race, the championship would take care of itself." Today they "Big picture" race, which leads to points racing and NOT taking that breath taking move to get to the front of the pack, but rather to play it safe and "Just have a good points day."

(c) As long as the racing is competitive, it's fine with me, no matter what the cars look like. I see your point and I generally agree. However, and this is just "A thing" with me, IF a racing series presents itself as a STOCK car racing series, then I want the cars to look at least halfway STOCK. I follow a lot of different series and generally they are the same as they were 30, 40, 50 years ago, EXCEPT for the technology and car design. NASCAR, OTOH, has undergone a complete metamorphosis and has become sometime totally different from its roots. The racing isn't even the same. Sorry, mate. Rightly or wrongly, that just isn't OK with me.

Thanks for weighting in. I enjoyed your post.
 
You can't please everyone, and one man's improvement is another's anethma. NASCAR came up with the COT to try to end all the bickering about one manufacturer having a supposed rule advantage over another, but all it did was launch a new wave of discontent. I don't envy them one bit.
Nope, everyone can't be pleased but, in my opinion, NA__AR has turned trying to pander to the wrong demographic into a virtual art form.

Bickering which NASCAR created [back in...? 1985 or 86?] by allowing one car brand to modify its stock configuration rather than letting the manufacturer redesign the car itself in an upcoming model. If NASCAR would have manned up and told the teams, "Hey. You signed the contract with the manufacturer. Talk to them; it ain't our problem." But, THAT would have involved standing up to team owners and the last head of NASCAR to have the cajoñes to do that was Bill Sr. If NA__AR would have never gotten into the race car redesign business, it would probably would have never had a car which evolved into the aero monster nicknamed "Twisted Sister," or this equally bad vehicle we currently have today.
 
What if?

How about doing away with the chase all together? How about who ever wins the most races wins the championship? I don't know about you guys/gals but I get so sick of hearing from the very 1st race of the season the announcers talking about the chase, the chase, the chase. If there was no chase the drivers would drive hard every race every lap to win each race. Point racing reminds me of bracket racing at the drag strip, boring .
 
How about doing away with the case all together? How about who ever wins the most races wins the championship? I don't know about you guys/gals but I get so sick of hearing from the very 1st race of the season the announcers talking about the case, the case, the case. If there was no case the drivers would drive hard every race every lap to win each race. Point racing reminds me of bracket racing at the drag strip, boring .

What, exactly, is "the case"? :D
 
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