I don't get it

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Jeff Nelson

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So I'm trying to watch Nascar on TV because I love sports, but I honestly just don't get it. I'm not saying it's not a sport or it's stupid or anything, I just look at the screen and have no idea what I'm watching for.

Here's an example, many people think baseball is very boring and nothing happens. I understand baseball very well and think more strategy is constantly going into baseball than any other sport. I look at who's batting and who's pitching, the pitcher has no to know all of the hitters hot and cold zones. Then he has to decide how to pitch to him depending if runners are on base, how many outs, and who is on deck. Then once he gets into the count he is constantly recalculating which pitch should come next. He has to think of what he just threw him, where the hitters eye level currently is, and how the hitter is behaving during the pitch. The entire time the fielders are shifting for every hitter depending on their style and also prepping themselves and making tiny adjustments depending on the pitch that will be thrown. These are just a tiny amount of things I look for and I know are going on, and it is all happening and changing every minute. I don't just wait for someone to hit and ball and run, that would be boring if that is all it was.

How about football, "it's just guys running up and down the field hitting each other." That's what people who don't understand think. I notice things like the drop step pattern of the QB, the defensive formations, the coverage matchups, the play calling and variation. I like watching reads by the defensive players, and even down to understanding blocking matchups of the defensive line when they have shifts and create holes for the RB. It's not just hike and see what happens, it's very formulated.

I want to understand Nascar like that-

So I've googled and tried to read about Nascar and why people like it and how it works. I've probably read about 50 answers none of them have any compelling info and the main ones I have seen are:

1. The crashes- I thought this was a stereotype but lots of people said this was the reason. You watch 4 hours of circling on a track in hopes something happens that isn't supposed to? That makes no sense to me. I wouldn't watch basketball and hope someone breaks their ankle. It may be an exciting part, but to me that in no way warrants love for the sport.

2. To follow your favorite team/driver- This also makes no sense. Why not follow your favorite speller and watch the scripts spelling bee, or just follow your state senate race, or any other sport. If you just watch to follow a team, why pick Nascar?

3. The cars go fast- Yes I understand this takes skill. But they really aren't going that fast to compel me to sit there hour after hour to just see something go 200 MPH, I ride in airplanes that go much much faster and don't consider it a sport or overly exciting. I can watch lots of others things go much faster than stock cars, and there are even types of racing where their cars go faster, and they have to handle more road conditions.

I even read this guide - http://www.sbnation.com/nascar/2012/3/1/2833316/nascar-video-guide
He says the reason for watching Nascar is to be an American, hope for crashes, and watch drivers have their bathroom breaks. I think the article had the exact opposite effect he was hoping for.

So please don't give me those reasons, those reasons reinforce my current opinion of there is no reason to watch.

So I'm curious, are there little things to look for in racing? Like if a car goes from the inside group to outside group does that make a huge deal? If a car changes its drafting distance does that play a huge role? Don't teams work together in different ways? What can I be watching the entire time that would make it interesting?

Thanks in advance, I really don't want to be insulting. I want to understand, I'd love and understand very well almost all sports to a very detailed level.
 
I'm heading out to a concert right now so I don't have time to get into full details but I'll answer a few shortly

2 - You have a favorite baseball team right? Well everyone's going to have their favorite driver that they like to root for, just like in any other "single player" sport like golf, tennis, etc.

3 - Those airplanes aren't riding along next to 42 other airplanes side by side.

The biggest thing you need to do is go experience a race live. Doesn't matter what kind and doesn't have to be NASCAR. Once you experience that you will have a greater understanding and appreciation for what these drivers do every week.

I'm also a big NHL fan and I think the games on tv don't compare to the games in person and I've found that once a lot of people go out and actually experience their first hockey game in person that they finally understand what makes it so interesting and awesome. I find the same goes with NASCAR.
 
you can't understand the whole sport until you have spent alot of time learning about the finer points. I suggest that you listen to the nascar channel on serius xm for a year or 2 and weed out some of the crap that they sometimes spout and you will learn to appreciate how complex the sport acually is
 
StewartHaas- I think you maybe misunderstood me? I mean sure I have favorite baseball team, but I don't like the sport because I have a favorite team. That's kind of putting the cart before the horse. And also I'm sure it is exciting live with the sound and crowd, I'm moving next to a race track soon and will probably go. But that still doesn't help me understand what it's about.

Johali- My so called question? I was being honest, I was trying to explain all of the little things in the other sports I watch that go into it so maybe someone could relate the same for their favorite sport. I was curious to understand Nascar because I refuse to believe millions of people and billions of dollars are all just "for cars turning left."

thegroundpound- If you're right I guess I'm hopeless.

Harv88- I don't want to understand the whole sport, I wanted an idea of what to look for. Subscribing to a serius xm for a year or two seems like a pretty crazy idea. I could give anyone a basic feel for a number sports and what types of things are going on in a post.
 
I will take a bite at this...

First of all I am curious as to why, if you don't get it, come on a board and ask a group of fans to explain what there is to like to you? I utterly HATE baseball... I have tried it on TV and in person (our town has a minor league team that one of my best friends is the mascot for) and either way I would just assume watch two blades of grass grow to see who gets higher first, than to watch it. It has never crossed my mind to go jump on a board and ask someone to explain it to me...


Never the less, I like racing because I like the action, I like the excitement of two cars battling it out for position. I particularly, like most people, like a close battle for the lead in the closing laps. It has the same effect, as a buzzer beater in basketball, or a field goal to win a tied game with the clock running down in football. When your driver is in the battle, it gives you a real rush.

If you ever want to get the real deal on what is so awesome about NASCAR, go to a race. I don't know anyone who has ever said "yeah, I went to that race and still think it is stupid." Naturally some races are better than others, all depending on the track, the car set ups, etc...but there is nothing better than a race with a lot of good close racing and with a lot of action.

You mention the "strategy" in baseball, while I am not sure about all that, I can't imagine that there is any sport that has more strategy involved than NASCAR. You have a driver constantly reporting to his crew chief what the car is doing, the crew is then constantly trying to find ways to make the car better. The crew chief has to constantly figure out everything form how to make the car better to monitor the weather and have a strategy for rain or calculate fuel mileage, tire wear, when to pit...the list goes on and on. The drive has to have strategy on how to get around other cars, what is the best line to run on the track...and so on....

I guess at the end of the day...I just love NASCAR!
 
Jeff, go find a gokart track and find a buddy to race. If you just feel like driving around the track and get no feeling of trying to beat the other guy, you'll miss out on the entire thing. Think of watching your favorite baseball team, it's the bottom of the ninth and your team is at bat. Down by two runs, you team has the bases loaded with two outs. At bat is the cleanup hitter and the count goes to 3 and 2. Wanna go take a whiz while the next pitch is thrown? Do you feel like it's just another pitch, game or whatever? Racing can give the same feeling, and not just at the end. If all you want to see is who wins the race, you'll never get it. You don't have to have a particular driver that you like either. Pay attention to the race and see who is moving forward. It's always more fun to watch those guys who are making progress to the front than to watch a driver who is out front all day long. When that happens, people will call it a boring race, but there is always a race within the race. You won't always be able to see it on TV, but there are other ways that you can keep up with the entire field. More importantly though, I know of no one who has sat down and watched one race and knew what it was all about. It's the same with all sports. Once you are acquainted with the small details, you get more and more into the sport. Just sit back and watch and study. If you don't get it, forget it.
 
Well for me, it was in the order 3-1-2, as you described in your first post.
After that, like buck says, "If you don't get it, forget it.".
 
Only someone who never rode a bicycle and raced with a friend , or run in a race or even watched a race would not know what racing is about .
 
2. To follow your favorite team/driver- This also makes no sense. Why not follow your favorite speller and watch the scripts spelling bee, or just follow your state senate race, or any other sport. If you just watch to follow a team, why pick Nascar?
You don't have a favorite team in any of the sports which you follow?

Most fans will continue to watch the race even after their driver/team have gone many laps down or even gone to the garage - with a few exceptions ;)

But like any other sport, not everyone gets it or likes it. Such is life.
 
Gordon_Fan24 said:
I will take a bite at this...

First of all I am curious as to why, if you don't get it, come on a board and ask a group of fans to explain what there is to like to you? I utterly HATE baseball... I have tried it on TV and in person (our town has a minor league team that one of my best friends is the mascot for) and either way I would just assume watch two blades of grass grow to see who gets higher first, than to watch it. It has never crossed my mind to go jump on a board and ask someone to explain it to me...


Never the less, I like racing because I like the action, I like the excitement of two cars battling it out for position. I particularly, like most people, like a close battle for the lead in the closing laps. It has the same effect, as a buzzer beater in basketball, or a field goal to win a tied game with the clock running down in football. When your driver is in the battle, it gives you a real rush.

If you ever want to get the real deal on what is so awesome about NASCAR, go to a race. I don't know anyone who has ever said "yeah, I went to that race and still think it is stupid." Naturally some races are better than others, all depending on the track, the car set ups, etc...but there is nothing better than a race with a lot of good close racing and with a lot of action.

You mention the "strategy" in baseball, while I am not sure about all that, I can't imagine that there is any sport that has more strategy involved than NASCAR. You have a driver constantly reporting to his crew chief what the car is doing, the crew is then constantly trying to find ways to make the car better. The crew chief has to constantly figure out everything form how to make the car better to monitor the weather and have a strategy for rain or calculate fuel mileage, tire wear, when to pit...the list goes on and on. The drive has to have strategy on how to get around other cars, what is the best line to run on the track...and so on....

I guess at the end of the day...I just love NASCAR!
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Damn Tootin and then some. :cool:
 
be9ak7ts16 said:
If the hair on your neck and arms doesn't stand up or you don't get a chill over your entire body when those 43 cars first start up and enter the track you'll never get the sport of racing.
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Damn Tootin x2
 
I got hooked on racing in the mid-60s when my future hubby took me to a drag race. Some friends were racing, so I spent the race in the pits. Just listening to the engines rev got my blood going.
In the 70s, we went dirt racing for 4 years. I spent the first year in the stands because the track didn't let women in the pits. The last 3 years I was in the pits, in and under the car.
In '79 I saw my first NASCAR race on TV. Hooked. It wasn't until '94 that I was able to afford to go to races. The first time those 43 cars went by me, I knew I'd found my sport.
Go to a race, Jeff. If you don't feel it there, forget it. Get a scanner and listen to the top teams. There is a lot going on that TV doesn't let your hear.
 
There is a lot more to it then watching cars go fast in circles. It is fun to follow the personalities, some are very colorful and some are not so much.
Who is popular and why. Who creates a lot of drama (Kurt and Kyle Busch come to mind). Tony Stewart and his sarcasm with the Media is always fun to see. And Just when you least expect it coolheaded Jeff Gordon is shoving people. It won't be hard to figure out why people refer to Carl Edwards as "Eddie Haskell"
The best part is you see these personalties come out on the race track, something I believe called "have at it boys"
 
I have questions for you as well. When and how did you become a baseball fan? A football fan? Do you find any enjoyment at all when Team A wins a game over Team B? Do you care who gets to the post season? You do of course realize that a very large percentage of people you see in stadiums are there because that's how they approach their favorite sport by following their favorite team, right?

One does not simply become a fan by Googling things about NASCAR. Nor does one become a fan by simply watching it on TV. Most everyone here became a fan by either going to a race.

1. The crashes- I thought this was a stereotype but lots of people said this was the reason. You watch 4 hours of circling on a track in hopes something happens that isn't supposed to? That makes no sense to me. I wouldn't watch basketball and hope someone breaks their ankle. It may be an exciting part, but to me that in no way warrants love for the sport.
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I think this is misleading. Sure, there are fans that say "I go for the wrecks," but most of the ones that are there for that reason are drunken rednecks. The fact that there are 43 cars out there, going side by side as fast as they are, the potential for disaster is what has attracted millions of fans throughout the years since the early era of racing.

2. To follow your favorite team/driver- This also makes no sense. Why not follow your favorite speller and watch the scripts spelling bee, or just follow your state senate race, or any other sport. If you just watch to follow a team, why pick Nascar?
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I really don't understand your question here. Can't the same be said for "why pick baseball" or "why pick hockey" or "why pick football"? It's called passion. For a variety of reason, people have a favorite driver or team they follow. It's enjoyable to watch how you favorite driver does through the season, or through a race. You get a scanner (or listen online) and listen to their race strategy and communications. You enjoy it when they win, like it when they do well, and hope they can win it next time.

3. The cars go fast- Yes I understand this takes skill. But they really aren't going that fast to compel me to sit there hour after hour to just see something go 200 MPH, I ride in airplanes that go much much faster and don't consider it a sport or overly exciting. I can watch lots of others things go much faster than stock cars, and there are even types of racing where their cars go faster, and they have to handle more road conditions.
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When you ride in an airplane going over 200 MPH, are you also trying pass 43 other airplanes within inches of each other? Are you confident that they put enough gas in it to get you to the next airport? Does the air traveling across the wings where them down and cause the airplane to handle differently when that happens?

Really, there's one major thing that NASCAR has that seems to be eluding you. Passion. Quite frankly, I don't get your "I need to know all sports at a very detailed level" outlook.
 
VaDirt said:
Really, there's one major thing that NASCAR has that seems to be eluding you. Passion. Quite frankly, I don't get your "I need to know all sports at a very detailed level" outlook.
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This sums up it up perfectly for me. I understand baseball and basketball on a very detailed level. I played both growing up and I understand why I people like them but I HATE THEM. I haven't watched a basketball or baseball game in years and I could honestly say that I wouldn't care if I never watched either for the rest of my life.

I also get why people like golf but I've never had any desire to play it and I'd never want to watch it on tv.

I watch 4 sports and 1 half a sport. Hockey and racing are my favorites. I could watch any team play hockey and I can watch any type of racing. I'm a casual football fan in the sense that I'm only interested in watching the Jets and Giants because they are my local teams that I've grown up rooting for but I have no desire to ever watch monday night football or sunday night football with other teams playing although I will watch the thanksgiving games or if I'm with my uncle we will watch the Cowboys cause that's who he likes. My half a sport that I like is wrestling, WWE. I say half a sport because you have to be athletic to do what they do and they end up getting a lot of injuries. I've watched it since I was a little kid and I go to WrestleMania almost every year with my friends.

When it all comes down to it, you either like something or you don't. An outsider looking at NASCAR doesn't see what most of us see here. We see guys racing hard for wins, doing whatever it takes to win every Sunday. We see pit crews risking their bodies to go out there and help the team win. We see cars battling side by side. Have you ever lost control of your car? I've spun out going about 30 mphs in the snow because my car at the time was horrible to drive in the snow. It was pretty hard to collect the car when doing it but I straightened it out. I'm amazed at the talent these drivers show when they spin out going almost 200mph and they somehow manage to not hit anything and get the car to go straight agan.

In the end, for most of us, NASCAR has been a tradition, passed on to generation to generation. I watched racing with my father every weekend and that's where I found my passion for racing. There are others out there who didn't have that but they found there way to this great sport.

Racing is full of passion, the need to go fast, the need to be number one. There is nothing else like it.
 
Jeff Nelson said:
Here's an example, many people think baseball is very boring and nothing happens. I understand baseball very well and think more strategy is constantly going into baseball than any other sport. I look at who's batting and who's pitching, the pitcher has no to know all of the hitters hot and cold zones. Then he has to decide how to pitch to him depending if runners are on base, how many outs, and who is on deck. Then once he gets into the count he is constantly recalculating which pitch should come next. He has to think of what he just threw him, where the hitters eye level currently is, and how the hitter is behaving during the pitch. The entire time the fielders are shifting for every hitter depending on their style and also prepping themselves and making tiny adjustments depending on the pitch that will be thrown. These are just a tiny amount of things I look for and I know are going on, and it is all happening and changing every minute. I don't just wait for someone to hit and ball and run, that would be boring if that is all it was.

How about football, "it's just guys running up and down the field hitting each other." That's what people who don't understand think. I notice things like the drop step pattern of the QB, the defensive formations, the coverage matchups, the play calling and variation. I like watching reads by the defensive players, and even down to understanding blocking matchups of the defensive line when they have shifts and create holes for the RB. It's not just hike and see what happens, it's very formulated.
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How long did it take you to learn and understand all the ins and outs of baseball and football? Bet it didn't happen overnight did it. Why do you expect to learn all about nascar racing to be any different? If you think there isn't strategy involved, even in a Saturday night short track you are sadly mistaken. If you think a driver doesn't know the driver running alongside,in front or behind him weakness again sadly mistaken. Many fans can watch a car going around the track and observe if it's tight or loose just by the way a driver enters a corner. A good number can prescribe what they would do to make the car 'handle'. That ability didn't come overnight.
My advice is sit on the couch and look at the pretty cars going around because if you don't grasp the basics of racing now you never will.
 
Why, why, why


If you don't feel a natural love, go find something else that you do love.
No disrespect intended but would a young man or woman be asking why their in a relationship or why they need to be attracted to their partner. If you can't see the reasons yourself, why even start.



Maybe an amiable pursuit to fit in, but still futile. This kind of thing is tragic, everybody started listening to disco in the 70s because it was the Thang. Totally ruined my radio stations, and it pulled classic FM rock off the airwaves. Greg still hasn't forgotten those idiots or the horror.



Now go find something you like, and do the best you can with what you were born to do.



That's a fine post Greg!!!
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I just wanted to know about the strategy that goes into the sport. No one here has talked at all about it except for a couple who hinted about the different aspects of fuel usage and track conditions. The points I listed weren't me hoping you would prove why those are valid reasons. Those were reasons I don't care about. I just wanted to learn about the strategy and how it works. Sure I've spent years learning other sports, but I still started somewhere. I don't know any Nascar fans so I thought I would just ask in a Nascar forum hoping someone who loves it would help me understand.

It's sad but I'm starting to believe the stereotypes because of the responses I have received. No one here really gives any reason to why this is a sport and a skill. It's also sad that you say if I didn't love it from the first time I saw it, then I have no chance. You're basically saying there is nothing to grow to love or subtleties one can learn to appreciate. There are sports I didn't care much for, but once I began to understand all that went into it, I started to appreciate the sport and learn to love them.

I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm not trying to criticize Nascar, I have been trying to be honest in learning something new and understanding other people.
 
Jeff Nelson said:
I just wanted to know about the strategy that goes into the sport. No one here has talked at all about it except for a couple who hinted about the different aspects of fuel usage and track conditions. The points I listed weren't me hoping you would prove why those are valid reasons. Those were reasons I don't care about. I just wanted to learn about the strategy and how it works. Sure I've spent years learning other sports, but I still started somewhere. I don't know any Nascar fans so I thought I would just ask in a Nascar forum hoping someone who loves it would help me understand.

It's sad but I'm starting to believe the stereotypes because of the responses I have received. No one here really gives any reason to why this is a sport and a skill. It's also sad that you say if I didn't love it from the first time I saw it, then I have no chance. You're basically saying there is nothing to grow to love or subtleties one can learn to appreciate. There are sports I didn't care much for, but once I began to understand all that went into it, I started to appreciate the sport and learn to love them.

I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm not trying to criticize Nascar, I have been trying to be honest in learning something new and understanding other people.
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Have you read any of this stuff? These are the basics. Of course there is a lot more too it but you need to understand the basics first.

Nascar 101...
http://www.nascar.com/kyn/

Strategy...
http://www.nascar.com/news/features/race.strategy/index.html

Pit stops...
http://www.nascar.com/news/features/anatomy.pit.stop/index.html

Tight vs Loose, drafting and banking...
http://www.nascar.com/news/features/track.jargon/index.html
 
Jeff Nelson said:
I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm not trying to criticize Nascar, I have been trying to be honest in learning something new and understanding other people.
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But that's the thing. You seem to be wanting to get interested in just the technical aspects of the sport. That's really not understanding other people. People are into NASCAR for a variety of reasons, but it's mostly about the passion.
 
Jeff Nelson said:
I just wanted to know about the strategy that goes into the sport. No one here has talked at all about it except for a couple who hinted about the different aspects of fuel usage and track conditions. The points I listed weren't me hoping you would prove why those are valid reasons. Those were reasons I don't care about. I just wanted to learn about the strategy and how it works. Sure I've spent years learning other sports, but I still started somewhere. I don't know any Nascar fans so I thought I would just ask in a Nascar forum hoping someone who loves it would help me understand.

It's sad but I'm starting to believe the stereotypes because of the responses I have received. No one here really gives any reason to why this is a sport and a skill. It's also sad that you say if I didn't love it from the first time I saw it, then I have no chance. You're basically saying there is nothing to grow to love or subtleties one can learn to appreciate. There are sports I didn't care much for, but once I began to understand all that went into it, I started to appreciate the sport and learn to love them.

I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm not trying to criticize Nascar, I have been trying to be honest in learning something new and understanding other people.
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There's an odd familiarity to your posts. You must have been lurking around here for a while to get the feel of place before you joined.
 
Auto racing isn't for everyone. If you don't get it you never will to be perfectly honest with you. I've been at the tracks since I was old enough to sit up. Some get it, some don't....
 
#17D500winner said:
There's an odd familiarity to your posts. You must have been lurking around here for a while to get the feel of place before you joined.
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The word "troll" is beginning to come to mind...lol

Jeff Nelson said:
I just wanted to know about the strategy that goes into the sport. No one here has talked at all about it except for a couple who hinted about the different aspects of fuel usage and track conditions. The points I listed weren't me hoping you would prove why those are valid reasons. Those were reasons I don't care about. I just wanted to learn about the strategy and how it works. Sure I've spent years learning other sports, but I still started somewhere. I don't know any Nascar fans so I thought I would just ask in a Nascar forum hoping someone who loves it would help me understand.

It's sad but I'm starting to believe the stereotypes because of the responses I have received. No one here really gives any reason to why this is a sport and a skill. It's also sad that you say if I didn't love it from the first time I saw it, then I have no chance. You're basically saying there is nothing to grow to love or subtleties one can learn to appreciate. There are sports I didn't care much for, but once I began to understand all that went into it, I started to appreciate the sport and learn to love them.

I'm not trying to be difficult, I'm not trying to criticize Nascar, I have been trying to be honest in learning something new and understanding other people.
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My guess is no matter what we say you are going to respond with the "that isn't what I am looking for" kinda comment. You would have to read a boom to learn about all the strategy involved in NASCAR...no way someone could post every aspect on here.

For me, I don't have to understand every aspect of a sport to enjoy it. The three sports I like are racing, football and basketball. I find all three to be exciting and enjoyable. I don't need to understand everything from top to bottom about them....some things you just either like or don't....nothing wrong with either one...
 
The intent of this thread was, IMO, to discover how much the respondents do or do not know about Nascar and racing in general.
 
@ Jeff, I will try to give my answer in more thoughtful terms by Tuesday at the latest if you are still here. I worked 12 hours today, and will do about 10 hours Monday and Tuesday eschew . That's not a complaint, I want to give it a shot, just explaining my delay.



But I got get some sleep now. (after meditating on Danica Patrick, Nicole Briscoe, Martina McBride, Charleze Theron, Tatiana, Natasha, Faith Hill, Maria Sharapova, Samantha Busch, etc),


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Greg said:
@ Jeff, I will try to give my answer in more thoughtful terms by Tuesday at the latest if you are still here. I worked 12 hours today, and will do about 10 hours Monday and Tuesday eschew . That's not a complaint, I want to give it a shot, just explaining my delay.



But I got get some sleep now. (after meditating on Danica Patrick, Nicole Briscoe, Martina McBride, Charleze Theron, Tatiana, Natasha, Faith Hill, Maria Sharapova, Samantha Busch, etc),


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Something tells me it'll be a while before you're asleep:D
 
My love of various sports came to be due to a team or athlete catching my attention or because I followed who my dad followed. As an adult I started watching (and "playing") golf because of Tiger Woods. For NASCAR it was Jeff Gordon. Without someone for which to root I'd have had no interest in racing but I watched and learned and now I watch every NASCAR and F1 event along with several Indycar races. I attend a few NASCAR and short track races each year as well. Just like every sport, some games (or races) are more exciting than others but it's the hope of winning or witnessing a thrilling game (or race) that drives my passion for sports and keeps me tuning in and showing up.
 
stewarthaas- thank you for the links. Some of those were helpful.

17d500- I honestly have never been on these forums until I posted my post. I just googled nascar forums looking for info and then just decided to post. And my intent was never to discover how much you knew. I would have no way to gauge that, I don't know anything about Nascar.

Gordon- How am I tolling these boards? I have made one thread asking for specific help. And that's fine if you don't understand the sports you like. I however enjoy the sports I watch the more I understand them. So I was simply looking for someone to better explain to me what to look for. I am not expecting someone to give me the all the answers in a paragraph. I just wanted something more than "pick a favorite driver" or "you like it or you don't."

Greg- I look forward to your response
 
Sorry Jeff
　
But this is going to take more time than I have, and I have to admit that after reading your OP that I believe racing isn’t your thing. That’s not an attack, the world would be boring if we were all the same.
I would encourage you to pursue your passions and move on to whatever they may be, and to discard a non interest like racing.
I respectfully think that’s in your best interest. Stereotypes are part of life and I will not try to change your opinion in that regard.
　
If you have a specific mechanical question or a specific strategy question that isn’t veiled as a statement, I will take on the challenge but I am not in the business of defending racing. You either like it or you don’t, either of the two is fine with me, but I am only here to discuss racing with friends of the sport.
　
　
If this is my last post for you , I wish you nothing but the best.
 
I asked some WWE fans similar questions in a WWE related thread on DBS Talk. (not that WWE and NASCAR have similarities other than some crossover in fan base) Let me just say that the responses here were much more civil than what I saw in the WWE thread. Most defensive people ever.
 
Jeff- Here's the deal. A lot of people become blind to racing because in football, baseball, basketball, hockey etc. You can what the athlete is doing. In racing, you only get a glimpse of that in onboard cameras. Remember, these drivers are wheeling 3400lb cars at 200+ miles an hour. The ****pit of the car can be an excess of 120 degrees. These cars aren't smooth to.drive either. Lots of wheel input, throttle control and mental concentration. The car is on the edge all the time. There is no driving aids either such as traction control. Then you have what it takes to get the car ready. They work on these cars all week to get them ready. They bring 2 cars to the track each week and depending on the team there's 12 or more at the shop. Certain cars for certain tracks. The more you watch the racing the more technical stuff and strategy you will learn. I've been involved my racing my whole life. I was crew chief and building Late Models when I was 15. I started driving them at 22. If you have some local tracks close to you I think you'll gain a better appreciation and a quicker one. There's so much more to it then what you see on TV.
 
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