If the TV race coverage made you mad

The broadcasts alone should be enough to get Brian relocated elsewhere.
 
Changing my signature, that was I don't have to type it everytime I post something.
 
I have said in the past that if you don't like what you see, quit watching it. Maybe I'm just a bit jaded, but I can still remember when they didn't cover all the races. In fact, I remember when they didn't cover any of them and it was ESPN that started the rise of NASCAR. I guess the sport has outgrown network coverage and yes, I will agree that the coverage is terrible, but not only with ESPN/ABC, but with the other networks as well. Twenty years ago, I would say that even Andy would be appreciative of ESPN is he had been used to seeing nothing, but as with anything else, we move on and are used to, or want more and better coverage of the races. When you take that and then mix it with the direction that NASCAR is moving, it isn't any surprise that many fans are upset, not only with the coverage (that's just a good excuse to criticize the networks) but everything else about NASCAR that they don't like. Since the exclusive television contract, read that since Brian France took over, this sport has lost many of the old loyal fans that it had, even if the sport has gained many "neo-fans". But it's the job of the networks to try and find new fans as well as do the best they can to hold on to the older fans, or the end result will not be good for the networks. So they try to find new things that will be more informative and make the viewing entertaining. In doing so, they have forgotten what the sport is all about, and that is watching the racing between all 43 drivers out there on the track as well as what goes on in the pits. There have been a gazillion new camera angles, double that amount of graphics, and of course, let us never forget the shots that evoke emotion, such as those shots of the drivers wives. :rolleyes: Artsy fartsy direction has always been something that we fans have had to put up with and why? Because those directors are trying to impress not us the fans, but other directors with their new and inovative approach to the sport.

It isn't so much that the network coverage sucks, it's that the sport is beginning to suck and suck more and more. One of the latest trivia questions dealt with the fact that this year will more than likely be the first year in NASCAR history that a North Carolina driver hasn't won a race. If things continue on the current course, in ten years, we might be asking the same question about an American (USA) driver. When that happens, who the hell will care what network is covering WASCAR (World Association of Stock Car Racing).
 
I have said in the past that if you don't like what you see, quit watching it. Maybe I'm just a bit jaded, but I can still remember when they didn't cover all the races. In fact, I remember when they didn't cover any of them and it was ESPN that started the rise of NASCAR. I guess the sport has outgrown network coverage and yes, I will agree that the coverage is terrible, but not only with ESPN/ABC, but with the other networks as well. Twenty years ago, I would say that even Andy would be appreciative of ESPN is he had been used to seeing nothing, but as with anything else, we move on and are used to, or want more and better coverage of the races. When you take that and then mix it with the direction that NASCAR is moving, it isn't any surprise that many fans are upset, not only with the coverage (that's just a good excuse to criticize the networks) but everything else about NASCAR that they don't like. Since the exclusive television contract, read that since Brian France took over, this sport has lost many of the old loyal fans that it had, even if the sport has gained many "neo-fans". But it's the job of the networks to try and find new fans as well as do the best they can to hold on to the older fans, or the end result will not be good for the networks. So they try to find new things that will be more informative and make the viewing entertaining. In doing so, they have forgotten what the sport is all about, and that is watching the racing between all 43 drivers out there on the track as well as what goes on in the pits. There have been a gazillion new camera angles, double that amount of graphics, and of course, let us never forget the shots that evoke emotion, such as those shots of the drivers wives. :rolleyes: Artsy fartsy direction has always been something that we fans have had to put up with and why? Because those directors are trying to impress not us the fans, but other directors with their new and inovative approach to the sport.

It isn't so much that the network coverage sucks, it's that the sport is beginning to suck and suck more and more. One of the latest trivia questions dealt with the fact that this year will more than likely be the first year in NASCAR history that a North Carolina driver hasn't won a race. If things continue on the current course, in ten years, we might be asking the same question about an American (USA) driver. When that happens, who the hell will care what network is covering WASCAR (World Association of Stock Car Racing).

I wish I could have watched the sucky coverage of the race. Here on the west coast ABC thought the wildfires were more entertaining. :mad:
 
I remember watching the 1979 Daytona 500 on TV. Everyone knew it was a big deal that it was on live. It was the first race televised flag to flag. By the way for all of you newbies who don't know who won. It was THE KING.
 
I have said in the past that if you don't like what you see, quit watching it. Maybe I'm just a bit jaded, but I can still remember when they didn't cover all the races. In fact, I remember when they didn't cover any of them and it was ESPN that started the rise of NASCAR. I guess the sport has outgrown network coverage and yes, I will agree that the coverage is terrible, but not only with ESPN/ABC, but with the other networks as well. Twenty years ago, I would say that even Andy would be appreciative of ESPN is he had been used to seeing nothing, but as with anything else, we move on and are used to, or want more and better coverage of the races. When you take that and then mix it with the direction that NASCAR is moving, it isn't any surprise that many fans are upset, not only with the coverage (that's just a good excuse to criticize the networks) but everything else about NASCAR that they don't like. Since the exclusive television contract, read that since Brian France took over, this sport has lost many of the old loyal fans that it had, even if the sport has gained many "neo-fans". But it's the job of the networks to try and find new fans as well as do the best they can to hold on to the older fans, or the end result will not be good for the networks. So they try to find new things that will be more informative and make the viewing entertaining. In doing so, they have forgotten what the sport is all about, and that is watching the racing between all 43 drivers out there on the track as well as what goes on in the pits. There have been a gazillion new camera angles, double that amount of graphics, and of course, let us never forget the shots that evoke emotion, such as those shots of the drivers wives. :rolleyes: Artsy fartsy direction has always been something that we fans have had to put up with and why? Because those directors are trying to impress not us the fans, but other directors with their new and inovative approach to the sport.

It isn't so much that the network coverage sucks, it's that the sport is beginning to suck and suck more and more. One of the latest trivia questions dealt with the fact that this year will more than likely be the first year in NASCAR history that a North Carolina driver hasn't won a race. If things continue on the current course, in ten years, we might be asking the same question about an American (USA) driver. When that happens, who the hell will care what network is covering WASCAR (World Association of Stock Car Racing).

It's not a good sign when people are going back to radio, though.

NASCAR's ratings are down all around (but the fall has been unnegligible), but the ratings are way down with ABC. I mean, TNT getting twice as many viewers last year than ABC did this year. :eek:

The chase races have, overall, have been really good races. The problem is the sub-amateur coverage.
 
Why doesnt Speed TV cover some of the races ?? This way we can also see more of Wendy, thier NASCAR reporter...
 
I am just glad that I have televised race coverage...I guess I don't get worked up as the rest of you do.
 
Why doesnt Speed TV cover some of the races ?? This way we can also see more of Wendy, thier NASCAR reporter...

Haha, Wendy's cute.

Czarniak's hotter though.

SPEED's going HD for DAYTONA SPEEDweeks! :D

Bet Comcast doesn't offer it until April. :rolleyes:
 
I am just glad that I have televised race coverage...I guess I don't get worked up as the rest of you do.

I understand that.

Personally, I'd perfer it if the races were on cable so they wouldn't be pre-empted everytime something happens.

There's no excuse for what happened in Los Angeles though. :mad:

ABC in LA has two digital outlets they could've put the race on (7-1, usually used for AccuWeather, or 7-2) and at least 1 other HD outlet.

The fact is, NASCAR is a business. If ratings are down this much on ESPN on ABC and the 2nd largest market doesn't have an option to watch the races, it's going to hurt business.

Argue what you will, but ESPN and ABC are the biggest problems in racing (IRL as well) right now.
 
DanicaRules,

I'm sure you agree. The aggravation of having to flip through three different channels to watch the IndyCar races, not just once, but 6 times in the 2nd half of this year. :mad:

BTW, also ESPN.
 
The only reason I'm watching is to finally see Rusty & Brad get into an onscreen physical confrontation. :D
 
Quoting Ed Hardin of the Greensboro newspaper:

The further we get from those old days the harder it is to remember that Martinsville was once the best place to see a race and not a parade of cautions and laps.

Quote from Bill Elliott:

I've never raced so hard to get nowhere in all my life.

LOL, quote from me:

I loved it when Jr knocked Montoya out of the way to move into the lead at one point. I understand that JPM's crew was furious and they wanted JPM to run down JR and wreck him. Only problem was JPM couldn't catch Jr. :)

Only 3 times all day did a lead change actually occur "on the track". Thanks COT.
 
I loved it when Jr knocked Montoya out of the way to move into the lead at one point. I understand that JPM's crew was furious and they wanted JPM to run down JR and wreck him. Only problem was JPM couldn't catch Jr. :)
Because Junyer's such a clean driver? :rolleyes:

I was furious with him, even if I do like him. Junyer could've got by clean, instead he used his chrome horn. :mad:
 
I just watched the last 12-18 laps.

But Andy, it is a short track. and Pablo used more then a crome horn to win a race at Mexico, and many more times this year.(just not for the win or lead)
 
I agree with alot of what you said Buckaroo. I go back to the days when we got about 20 minutes of race coverage on Wide World of Sports tucked in between Wrist Wrestling from Pantalooma(sp) and Cliff Diving in Acupulco. ESPN did cover NASCAR back in the 80's but there coverage was far superior than it was now, not to mention KNOWLEDGABLE announcers instead of the Talking Heads we have now. The same with the old TNN. I got so irratated listening to Wallace spout off I turned MRN on and turned down the sound. Then I got double irritated because whenever somthing happenned on the track we were watching some stupid-ass explanation of some part on a cutaway car or some meaningless interview with Harvick or some other Face of the Day. There was racing all over the track but we never got to see it. Suzy Kolber?????? WTF are her credentials, she looks good in front of the camera, she's boring as all hell. Go dig up Katie Haas from the old TNN days, she's cute and she knows what she's talking about. Every season this 40+ year NASCAR fan gets more and more disillusioned. Us old-timers just don't seem to fit into what NASCAR wants to become.
 
Every season this 40+ year NASCAR fan gets more and more disillusioned. Us old-timers just don't seem to fit into what NASCAR wants to become.

I think you're getting the point here. Brian France isn't interested in pleasing you or me or any other older fan, but instead believes that once a fan, always a fan and will do his best to find new fans. One thing about that strategy is that many of those neo-fans are only here because of the fad. If NASCAR continues to fall from the graces of the majority, those neo-fans will take a hike quicker than Fido chasing the mailman. :eek:
 
Because Junyer's such a clean driver? :rolleyes:

I was furious with him, even if I do like him. Junyer could've got by clean, instead he used his chrome horn. :mad:

It's about time he showed he has a set. Almost reminded me of his daddy.
 
Oh yeah one more gripe. I'm sorry but Kelly ******* Clarkson is not the face of NASCAR. She hasn't got a clue, Sorry but this old fart think NASCAR should still follow it's Country Music Roots.
 
Buck, would your ideas about people not watching if they don't like what they see also apply to the internet?
 
Every sport targets the young generation. Look at the promos for the NFL and NBA.
 
I'm sure you agree. The aggravation of having to flip through three different channels to watch the IndyCar races, not just once, but 6 times in the 2nd half of this year. :mad:

BTW, also ESPN.


I agree with that. It was always which channel...ESPN, ESPN2, or ABC ?:confused:

Good news is that the indy races will be in hi-def next year!!:beerbang:
 
Haha, Wendy's cute.

Czarniak's hotter though.

SPEED's going HD for DAYTONA SPEEDweeks! :D

Bet Comcast doesn't offer it until April. :rolleyes:


Ive never seen Czarniak, but she would have to be super hot if she is better than Wendy. Wendy is just amazing..:)
 
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