Is Carl Edwards out of his mind?

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Carl Edwards was happy that teammate Greg Biffle won Sunday at Michigan International Speedway.
But he wasn’t happy with Biffle.

Edwards wanted his Roush Fenway Racing teammate to help him clean off the grille of his car with about 35 laps remaining in the Quicken Loans 400.

Edwards instead had to pit early in a cycle of green-flag pit spots because his car was overheating, and when a caution flag came out a couple of laps later, Edwards was in the free-pass position and had to restart 24th.

When asked after the race if he felt Biffle should have helped him, Edwards responded tersely:
"It’s his job to help me.”
So would Edwards talk to Biffle about the incident?
“We’ll take care of it,” Edwards said.

Edwards might not like the conversation. Biffle said he had too big of a lead to help Edwards at the time, or at least by the time he got the request.

“I didn't know when I passed him he had something on his grille or I'd let him get it off then,” Biffle said. “And I don't know if he did have something on his grille. But when I looked up in the mirror, and he was 25 car lengths back, and they said, ‘Carl has got something on his grille,’ I said, ‘I can't help him, not right now.’
“This is my chance to win today, right here, and the 48 (of Jimmie Johnson) is coming. I don't know if you know that or not, but the 48 is coming. There were other guys coming behind Carl that were going to pass him, and I didn't feel like I could take that risk at that particular time.”
How does team owner Jack Roush feel about it?

“There's no team orders for that kind of thing, but I do support the decision that Greg made to not give up his track position, and we'll discuss that,” Roush said.

Crew chief Matt Puccia said if Biffle had dropped back, he could have risked falling a lap down if he pitted under green while other lead-lap cars stayed on the track and then the caution came out.

“If it's that hot, we all know it's painful, but you roll out of the gas and you let the guy in third catch up to you. … It's a two-way street, right?” Biffle said.

“You ask that guy up there to climb back down the rock to help you or you wait for the guy that's coming that way and ask him for help. There's two ways of doing it. It's not just get me back up or I've got to pit. There's lots of options, you know, to get stuff off your grille.”

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This reminds me a little of 2011 when Kenseth was running 2nd to Carl with 50 to go and asked if he could lead a lap. Carl said no, even though Matt had let him lead a lap a few weeks earlier. Funny guy, Carl is.
 
Biffle, the guy who passed up winning the 500 because of a teammate can't help Carl out? I mean Carl is dumb for asking that far back but oh the irony.
 
Carl also had a car that could have beaten Biffle IF Greg was dumb enough to give up his big lead. Carl must think Greg is an idiot.
 
When you get a lead that big on the #48, you don't back up for anything. Biffle won because he drove a smart race.
 
Racers are high strung and selfish what a shock? FTR I am on Biffles side he did what he had to do.

Carl was a jerk, but the self centered approach is no surprise. Drivers have big egos, that usually gets nurtured by their supporting cast.
Some are better actors than others, but at the end of the day it is an all about me thing.

Note: I realize Mark Martin maybe an exception, a virtue that has also cost him races.
 
I thought the object of a race was to win, beat everyone, help no one, even if it is a teammate.
That's crazy talk. I don't care who was coming behind them, even if it was Homestead and that was the battle for the championship. When you have teammates, it's all for one and one for all. Roush should have forced Biffle to pit with Edwards as punishment for his callous, selfish actions.
 
That's crazy talk. I don't care who was coming behind them, even if it was Homestead and that was the battle for the championship. When you have teammates, it's all for one and one for all. Roush should have forced Biffle to pit with Edwards as punishment for his callous, selfish actions.
I really hope that is :sarcasm:
 
That's crazy talk. I don't care who was coming behind them, even if it was Homestead and that was the battle for the championship. When you have teammates, it's all for one and one for all. Roush should have forced Biffle to pit with Edwards as punishment for his callous, selfish actions.

Do I read you clearly? Are you saying that Biffle should have helped his teammate even if it cost him the race? This is not F1 ---
 
Biffle was 10th in points with zero wins going in to arguably his best track, and he is supposed to backup to his teammate while racing for the win? Not a chance.
 
If I were a driver, I wouldn't give up a possible win to help anyone. And I wouldn't expect any other driver to help me if it were to cost them positions and points.
 
Yeah, Carl will take care of him...

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I really hope that is :sarcasm:
Do I read you clearly? Are you saying that Biffle should have helped his teammate even if it cost him the race? This is not F1 ---
LOL! Yeah, I'm definitely joking. I didn't want to give it away with an emoticon, but I liked your post, TRL, and I figured that once you saw that, the jig would have been up.

Darn right this isn't F1. Carl must think it is, though. "It's his job to help me." I almost choked on my water when I read that quote. :XXROFL:
 
LOL! Yeah, I'm definitely joking. I didn't want to give it away with an emoticon, but I liked your post, TRL, and I figured that once you saw that, the jig would have been up.

Darn right this isn't F1. Carl must think it is, though. "It's his job to help me." I almost choked on my water when I read that quote. :XXROFL:

Whew. *relief* I was pretty sure you weren't serious, but it hasn't been a good day around here. Glad you didn't choke on your water.
I did spill iced tea, though. LOL
 
He's can't be too far out of his mind, he's second in points.
Wanting Greg to drop back though was a little out of the realm. He could've waited until he came up on one of the HMS cars that wasn't on the lead lap.
 
He's can't be too far out of his mind, he's second in points.
Wanting Greg to drop back though was a little out of the realm. He could've waited until he came up on one of the HMS cars that wasn't on the lead lap.
There was only one left, don't you remember dancing on your front lawn?
:partytime
 
he is talking about the race today. Not the standings, the leading Toyota there hasn't won a race.
 
Biff and Edwards, never been great buddies. Biff said in 2011, Carl was leaving for Gibbs, um no, the teammate you used to bend over for is the one that left, have to wonder if Kenseth was still at Roush, if Biff would of helped him.
 
I think Kevin Harvick nailed it a couple years ago when he said Edwards was "fake as hell". He likes to cheese for the cameras and do his Aw Shucks bit, but then he'll go do stuff like lunge at Matt Kenseth, turn Brad K head first into the wall taking out half the field, and crap on a teammate's win.
 
I think Kevin Harvick nailed it a couple years ago when he said Edwards was "fake as hell". He like to cheese for the cameras and do his Aw Shucks bit, but then he'll go do stuff like lunge at Matt Kenseth, turn Brad K head first into the wall taking out half thethe field, and crap on a teammate's win.

But that stuff happened about 3 years ago. I do think Carl has matured and learned to look at the big picture.
I want to reiterate that I think he is naive to think Biffle should have jeopardized his own chances to help him. But even Fenning (wisdom and maturity) was expecting the same.
In the end this means almost nothing and the posting mileage is one of the biggest results. Carl didnt throw his own team under the bus, so this nets an almost harmless episode.

Racers are people prone to wear it on the sleeve, Brad crying over over other super teams, JJ over restarts, Jeff needing a hug at Charlotte, Dennys twitter, Joeys twitter etc....
Unless they take all of that to track like Hamlin/Logano it is just the weekly yip zap. Edwards will not do that against teamate Biffle, remember he has a week to settle down.

Net: An almost non event at best.
 
That article is a bunch of made up Pockrass fairy tales. It works for the Carl bashers perfectly though. Here is an article that is probably closer to the truth. People wonder when Stewart serves Pockrass his head at a press conference.

"We all know it's painful, but you roll out of the gas and you let the guy in third catch up to you and you have a spotter tell him, 'Hey, I'm hot, I'm going to let you go. I've got to get the piece off my grille. Will you give me a favor and let me get it off my grille?' " Biffle said.

According to radio communication, the Penske team of Joey Logano in third was willing to help had Edwards been willing to drop back.
"It's a two-way street, right?" Biffle said. "You ask that guy up there to climb back down the rock to help you or you wait for the guy that's coming that way and ask him for help. There's two ways of doing it."
Biffle made the right decision, and team owner Jack Roush supported it.

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cu...e-finds-speed-michigan-international-speedway
 
That article is a bunch of made up Pockrass fairy tales. It works for the Carl bashers perfectly though. Here is an article that is probably closer to the truth. People wonder when Stewart serves Pockrass his head at a press conference.

"We all know it's painful, but you roll out of the gas and you let the guy in third catch up to you and you have a spotter tell him, 'Hey, I'm hot, I'm going to let you go. I've got to get the piece off my grille. Will you give me a favor and let me get it off my grille?' " Biffle said.

According to radio communication, the Penske team of Joey Logano in third was willing to help had Edwards been willing to drop back.
"It's a two-way street, right?" Biffle said. "You ask that guy up there to climb back down the rock to help you or you wait for the guy that's coming that way and ask him for help. There's two ways of doing it."
Biffle made the right decision, and team owner Jack Roush supported it.

http://espn.go.com/racing/nascar/cu...e-finds-speed-michigan-international-speedway

Edwards apparently wasn't thrilled, saying on his radio, "He ain't our teammate," when told Biffle wouldn't come back to help. He went from the lead to an eighth-place finish because he eventually had to pit to resolve the issue.

Nothing changes the fact that he said that.
 
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