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RobbyG Fan
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They just reported that in the post race show on Speed Channel.
Talk about some drama.
Talk about some drama.
97forever
Team Owner
Damn! 
Speed News reported that Jimmy ran into Kurt's car in the garage area. Then walked up to the car and punched Kurt while he was still in the car. It was also said that deputies were interviewing with the possibility of filing assault charges against Jimmy.
I see a huge fine and maybe suspension from NASCAR on top of it.
I see a huge fine and maybe suspension from NASCAR on top of it.
97forever
Team Owner
I always liked Jimmy---even after his first altercation with Kurt...but(if true) this has made me lose all respect for him. 
This is just too much. Jimmy needs to sit out a couple races, pay a hugh fine and loose points. This kind of stuff cannot be tolerated. NASCAR needs to get this under control.
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4xchampncountin
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It has been said that Jimmy thinks he is still racing on a saturday night series somewhere where they fight and drink beer afterwards. I guess that is truer than we thought. 
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BudNapa815
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if Harvick was suspended for his crap last year.....Jimmy Spencer defiantly needs to be sat out a few races....what a freakin moron
i havnt had respect for Jimmy Spencer in a long time. the man that never forgets needs to learn how to drive a race car and control himself..i hope they throw the book at him.
what a freakin loser
i havnt had respect for Jimmy Spencer in a long time. the man that never forgets needs to learn how to drive a race car and control himself..i hope they throw the book at him.
what a freakin loser
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Happy29
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Well Kevin wasnt suspended for grabbing Greg Biffle in pit lane, he was suspended for mockingly parking his Craftsman Truck outside the NASCAR Big Red Trailer. I like Kurt Busch, it's ridiculous how Jimmy Spencer cant let old things go and how Spencer even ran his mouth off after Earnhardt won the Pepsi 400. Hopefully Kurt can get this behind him.
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txracingdiva
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I agree with BudNapa, Jimmy needs to stay home next weekend and "think" about what he has done. I think his temper tantrums had more to do with him losing his ride in the Target car than his performance. 
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Parkfan
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Don't people complain about how they wish NASCAR was more like the old days and drivers would show more emotion? Jimmy is a old style driver and back in the old days this kind of stuff was commonplace and fans back than wouldn't give more than a 2nd thought to it. While I'm not supporting Jimmy, I don't think he should be suspended. I do think he'll be because of how big NASCAR's become and the media backlash wouldn't be good.
I don't think that a suspension should be his first concern.
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Parkfan
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I don't think that a suspension should be his first concern. [/b][/quote]
I do think this'll probably cost him his ride, because of how low he's in the points and the backlash from the sponsor.
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Gollum
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Never did care much for Spencer. Not a Busch fan either. But if you get in a fight in another sport don't you get thrown out of the game. Well this game was over so set him out next weekend. Seems fair to me.
I do think this'll probably cost him his ride, because of how low he's in the points and the backlash from the sponsor. [/b][/quote]
Not exactly what I was talking about, park30fan. I was talking about the fact that assault charges could and should be filed against Spencer.
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Parkfan
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Not exactly what I was talking about, park30fan. I was talking about the fact that assault charges could and should be filed against Spencer. [/b][/quote]
From what I heard NASCAR is handling this privately, and there will not be charges filed.
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Purdue Fan
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I agree that Jimmy needs to be suspended and fined heavily but I find it funny that if it was Tony Stewart he would just get "probation" .
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4xchampncountin
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I'm fairly certain Spencer will face assault charges from what I've read, and rightfully so. He won't really face any real legal repercussions except probably a good sized fine and maybe a day in jail (although any jail time is very doubtful on this one).
NASCAR though is very likely to come down very hard on him. It is well documented that if you are a very big winner and fan favorite you can get away with a lot more. NASCAR is not above "making an example" of a driver who doesn't win and isn't exactly a fan favorite.
NASCAR though is very likely to come down very hard on him. It is well documented that if you are a very big winner and fan favorite you can get away with a lot more. NASCAR is not above "making an example" of a driver who doesn't win and isn't exactly a fan favorite.
This is from the article @ Thats Racin:
Doesn't sound to me like it is just being handled by Nascar........as it shouldn't be.
Doesn't sound to me like it is just being handled by Nascar........as it shouldn't be.
97forever
Team Owner
Not out of bias...but I agree with Maj on this one.I hated it when Biffle punched Sauter,when Harvick jumped Biffle.At a local track near me recently a driver actually shot---and killed--another driver.We dont need this kind of violence in this,or any,sport.Stop it now.
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4xchampncountin
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I read those same comments myself Maj. He is in trouble with more than just NASCAR on this one.
From what I heard NASCAR is handling this privately, and there will not be charges filed. [/b][/quote]
That's a dang shame.
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4xchampncountin
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Players in other sports used to be exempt from local law when it something illegal happened during a sporting event. But, that has changed a lot in the past few years. I remember a pro hockey player (Marty McSorly(sp?) maybe") who had criminal charged filed against him for trying to take another players head off with his stick a few years back. It just makes sense to me that a guy is accountable for his actions even if he is at work at the time. I've wanted to hit a few co-workers before, but I held my temper.
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wlfyk62
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I got another word from the Track and ULTRA Motorsports that Jimmy Spencer is going to be fined and charge with Assult and be fired form what i heard.
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4xchampncountin
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It wouldn't surprise me at all if Jimmy were fired for this because of his status as a driver. If it were a top 10 driver does anybody think he would be fired for this?
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RobbyG Fan
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Source?
How do you know this with certainty?
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Nadeaufan17
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Yeah that was Mcsorly, and he was out of the NHL for a good period of time, Im not ever sure if he ever returned, but I believe he did. Also this goes WAY beyond being punished by nascar because of the fact that he commited a CRMINIAL offense. It dosen't matter if he is a pro athlete or not, this should not be tolorated.Originally posted by 4xchampncountin@Aug 17 2003, 08:13 PM
Players in other sports used to be exempt from local law when it something illegal happened during a sporting event. But, that has changed a lot in the past few years. I remember a pro hockey player (Marty McSorly(sp?) maybe") who had criminal charged filed against him for trying to take another players head off with his stick a few years back. It just makes sense to me that a guy is accountable for his actions even if he is at work at the time. I've wanted to hit a few co-workers before, but I held my temper.
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Parkfan
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The NASCAR.com article contradicts what the thats racin article said about Kurt bleeding.
"Busch waved and yelled at Spencer, and then walked to the NASCAR hauler. He did not appear to be bloodied. There were no other punches thrown."
It didn't say anything about a bloody towel either.
"Busch waved and yelled at Spencer, and then walked to the NASCAR hauler. He did not appear to be bloodied. There were no other punches thrown."
It didn't say anything about a bloody towel either.
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Happy29
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I think it's ridiculous that charges wont be filed and NASCAR will handle privately. After all, when NASCAR attempts to do something, it's never done at all.
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4xchampncountin
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NASCAR may want to handle this privately, but I don't really think they will have that option.
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N2racin44
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I chalk it up to a smart ass Kurt Bucsh that needed to be put in his place. Do not get me wrong. What Spencer did was chicken bleep for punching him while helplessly in his race car. I think most will agree that Kurt is a ****y arrogant dude that never put behind him what happened at Indy last year. I could see Kurt annoying Jimmy in ways that could only be put up with to a certain point. Kurt had to have said something or did something to push Jimmy over the edge. There is more to it then we are hearing.
When Robby Gordon offers to pay Spencer's fine and says Busch "had it coming for a while."
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Jeff Miles, the transport driver for Spencer, said, "I know he tried to put Jimmy in the fence on the straightaway."
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crew chief Jimmy Fennig said, as he tried to drive it back to his hauler after the race. It stopped, interestingly, in front of Spencer's transporter.
I love this kind of spicy drama. I just hope they caught it on tape.
When Robby Gordon offers to pay Spencer's fine and says Busch "had it coming for a while."
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Jeff Miles, the transport driver for Spencer, said, "I know he tried to put Jimmy in the fence on the straightaway."
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crew chief Jimmy Fennig said, as he tried to drive it back to his hauler after the race. It stopped, interestingly, in front of Spencer's transporter.
I love this kind of spicy drama. I just hope they caught it on tape.
racer8
Team Owner
interesting to hear robby gordon say that busch had it coming.
he is probably right. wasn't it robby that got spun out in the winston a year or two ago by busch. and after the race busch stood right in front of the media and said he spun him intentionally to get a yellow.
he is probably right. wasn't it robby that got spun out in the winston a year or two ago by busch. and after the race busch stood right in front of the media and said he spun him intentionally to get a yellow.
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RobbyG Fan
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You have that correct.Originally posted by racer8@Aug 17 2003, 10:24 PM
interesting to hear robby gordon say that busch had it coming.
he is probably right. wasn't it robby that got spun out in the winston a year or two ago by busch. and after the race busch stood right in front of the media and said he spun him intentionally to get a yellow.
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Oldgoat
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Seems like there are still few facts about what all happened, but the only part I would have a problem with is if Kurt was still in his car. Kurt and Jimmy have no love lost between them and if Kurt was trying to rub it in some I could see where Jimmy would be PO'd. Kurt has a big mouth and a big ego. Might actually be the best thing that could happen to him.
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N2racin44
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I honestly believe Jimmy did what he could do to put what happened at Indy behind him. Remember this all started when Kurt punted Jimmy out of the way at Bristol. I even remember Jimmy making an appearance on Trackside last year while Kurt was being interviewed and I took that as an ice breaker that Kurt seemed to have brushed off.
Again, before anyone flies off the handle and says that I agree with what Jimmy did today is way off base. I am just in the belief that Kurt had it coming.
Again, before anyone flies off the handle and says that I agree with what Jimmy did today is way off base. I am just in the belief that Kurt had it coming.
Kurt was taking the noses of numerous cars today with his "slide job". Jimmy, Robby, Kevin, Ricky Rudd all were roughed up by the 97.
I don't agree with punching him out while he's still in the car. Jimmy, et al, should have waited until Bristol.
I don't agree with punching him out while he's still in the car. Jimmy, et al, should have waited until Bristol.
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Ward Burton
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I do think that Kurt was being somewhat of an.....well...
But Jimmy Spencer should not have punched him in the face, that is absolute crap.
But Jimmy Spencer should not have punched him in the face, that is absolute crap.
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slick-nick
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Kurt is one helluva race car driver, but the boy needs to learn how to 'race'..
I saw him pull the slide job on many drivers out there today, and I tell ya... if I was one of them, I would of probably done the same thing. Jimmy had a good run going until he fell victim of the fuel strategy.
I saw him pull the slide job on many drivers out there today, and I tell ya... if I was one of them, I would of probably done the same thing. Jimmy had a good run going until he fell victim of the fuel strategy.
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Happy29
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Ya know, I'm sticking with Kurt Busch on this one and I'm rarely the one to defend the Roush Racing types, except for Busch because he rules, he has lots of fans and of course the Mob (maybe, maybe not) here in Vegas behind him :lol:. I've been watchin the race replays over and over again, sure he may have made a few daring moves, but they certainly didnt look stupid to me. It's called defensive driving, plain and simple. As for The slide job, everyone does the move so I'm not goin to criticize him on that it was just racing and thats how theyre supposed to race. He's far from being arrogant or ****y, Kurt just tends to jump the gun a little bit and sometimes rush into situations that are just overwhelming.
This is a bad move by Jimmy Spencer; when he and Kurt Busch first tangled in Phoenix in 01 then again in Bristol in 02, I think Spencer thought he could be the Dale Earnhardt of the field and try to rough up the younger drivers's cages. That crap isnt tolerated any more, not by the fans, not by the drivers and neither by NASCAR. It's Spencer and his showing off thinking that he's an elite driver and showing off his big mouth that lands him in trouble, think back to the 2001 Pepsi 400 when he said that the race was fixed. As far as I'm concerned, Spencer's career has always been knee-deep in the bad stuff; he cant get it together either emotionally and his performances on the racetrack. Hopefully Kurt Busch can get this behind him and get back to his winning ways.
This is a bad move by Jimmy Spencer; when he and Kurt Busch first tangled in Phoenix in 01 then again in Bristol in 02, I think Spencer thought he could be the Dale Earnhardt of the field and try to rough up the younger drivers's cages. That crap isnt tolerated any more, not by the fans, not by the drivers and neither by NASCAR. It's Spencer and his showing off thinking that he's an elite driver and showing off his big mouth that lands him in trouble, think back to the 2001 Pepsi 400 when he said that the race was fixed. As far as I'm concerned, Spencer's career has always been knee-deep in the bad stuff; he cant get it together either emotionally and his performances on the racetrack. Hopefully Kurt Busch can get this behind him and get back to his winning ways.
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coonhound
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Spencer should be kicked out of Nascar, Nascar prides itself on being a "family" sport and likes its drivers to behave in certain ways and be role models. Jimmy Spencer needs to go away.