Kyle Petty

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Okay so Kyle can drop the "F" bomb on National TV and not get a fine much less a scolding from NASCAR and now he does this:

Petty vs. Hamlin...the quotes: on lap 204 of the Dodge Dealers at Dover International Speedway, #11-Hamlin got into #45-Petty, sending Petty spinning on the frontstretch and into the inside wall..so in the garage minutes after both cars headed to the garage, Petty came over to Hamlin, who was in the #11 while the crew is working on the car, Petty took the window net down and yelled and pointed at Hamlin, gave Hamlin the one finger salute [which was blurred by ABC], NASCAR Officials tired to block Petty, then Hamlin had enough when Petty touched his helmet, which Hamlin removed and got out the car, where he was restrained by his crew and NASCAR officials, then ABC cut back to the race. Comments made by each sent out by respective manufacture reps:
KYLE PETTY (#45 Wells Fargo Dodge Avenger) ON THE ACCIDENT “We were a little bit loose. I guess it’s my fault. I watched the Busch race yesterday and I knew Denny (Hamlin) was sick, I just didn’t know he was hallucinating and needed three lanes to get up off the corner because he ran all over us. I guess he is in a race by himself.”
ON HIS WORDS WITH HAMLIN “I just told him ‘he is in the Chase and I’m not’. That’s how simple it is. It’s a shame that a guy with that much talent has to drive like that. We’ve seen it a lot. We’ve seen it all year long. Even his teammate Tony Stewart talked about it. I think it pretty much speaks for itself.”(Dodge Motorsports PR)
AND DENNY HAMLIN (#11 Fedex Ground Inpala SS - Finished 38th) DID YOU GIVE SO MUCH IN THE BUSCH RACE YESTERDAY THAT YOU WEREN'T FOCUSED TODAY? "That definitely wasn't an issue. The biggest thing is that I know Kyle (Petty) gets run over a lot and a lot of the reason is that he's so far off the pace. I firmly believe in my heart that he was trying to get out of the way. But I was right there on his bumper on the inside of him and I think he was trying to pull low. When he did, he checked up to pull low. You can't do that when someone's right on you and I think that's the reason that stuff happens. You've got a car two seconds off the pace or whatever it may be. We're in a clutter of leaders and he's racing his own little battle and some days it's your day and some days it's not. Get out of the way."
WHAT DID YOU SAY TO KYLE PETTY AND WHAT DID HE SAY TO YOU AT YOUR CAR WINDOW? "He just said it wasn't racing. And absolutely it wasn't racing. I wasn't racing him. There was no reason. Let's look back at my career. I've never wrecked anyone my entire career has anybody spun off my front bumper. It's not like I'm a guy who runs into everybody. You've just got to use your brain. You've got to calm down. This is not over for us. A lot of guys had trouble today and we're going to bounce back from this. This is just one step of this 10-week chase."
IN HINDSIGHT, DO YOU THINK YOU WERE TOO AGGRESSIVE WITH HIM (PETTY) AT THAT POINT? "There was no reason for me to be aggressive at all. I had the 07 a car length or two behind, but I can give up a spot. I have no problem in that. I'd seen the way he had been running the laps before and he had been going up to the wall. I was assuming he was going to do the same thing but instead he came off the corner and he slowed up right off my front bumper. It's a mistake whether it's on my part or his part. That's what happens. You can't have two cars that distinguished in speed and expect them to race near each other."
WERE YOU SURPRISED AT PETTY'S REACTION? "Yeah, I think a lot of it was his frustration over this whole top 35 thing, but we're racing for bigger and better things. Hopefully, one day, if they get it turned around, I can exchange the favor. But right now, we're the guys racing for the championship, so you know, heed a little bit."
WHAT SET YOU OFF TO HAVE YOU JUMP OUT OF YOUR CAR LIKE THAT WHEN YOU WERE WAITING FOR THE CREW TO FIX THE CAR? "Don't smack me on the helmet. You smack me on the helmet and I'm going to punch you in the face, bottom line. So I'd like for him (Kyle Petty) to call me sometime this week, before next week."
IS THERE AN UNWRITTEN RULE ABOUT TAKING YOUR WINDOW NET DOWN OR COMING TO YOUR CAR? "You don't come to my car; you don't come to my pit. You meet me somewhere else and we'll settle it. I have the utmost respect for Kyle, but don't lay your hands on my head."
WHY DID HE DO THAT? DID YOU SAY SOMETHING BACK TO HIM? "I did not say one word to him. I asked him to come over and talk to me. He chose to slap my helmet. I have a short fuse. Don't do that. I didn't say one word to him (Petty) in the garage. All I just said wad 'Come here and let me talk to you about it'. He chose to slap my helmet, you know, in hindsight, I should have grabbed his throat."(GM Racing PR)(9-23-2007)

Yes, Hamlin dumped him but it does not give Petty the right to do what he did. Will Petty get in trouble with NASCAR this time or will they once again show preference?
 
I was glad to see some "fire" in Kyle, after all Hamlin ran into Kyle. Kyle didn't back into Hamlin. I wish he had more of that type of attitude "on the track".
 
Guess Denny learned that from Tony. Afterall Tony said about the same thing when Denny backed into him.
 
Okay the point was not to talk about Denny but how completely inconsistant NASCAR is when it comes to their fines. I like Kyle but I do not think he should be exempt from NASCAR'S rules and so far he has been.

As for Denny, yes he dumped Kyle but like he said it is not like he does it all the time and I truely think that was a mistake on Denny's part.
 
Kyle was not fined for the "F" word because that was shown minutes later and not on live TV. That was the network's fault. It was not intention like Junior's was a few years ago and Stewart's after Indy.
 
Okay the point was not to talk about Denny but how completely inconsistant NASCAR is when it comes to their fines. I like Kyle but I do not think he should be exempt from NASCAR'S rules and so far he has been.

As for Denny, yes he dumped Kyle but like he said it is not like he does it all the time and I truely think that was a mistake on Denny's part.

That was not what Denny said. "He blamed it on Kyle.
 
I was glad to see some "fire" in Kyle, after all Hamlin ran into Kyle. Kyle didn't back into Hamlin. I wish he had more of that type of attitude "on the track".

I agree, was good to see some "Fire in the belly"

I like the Pettys, wish we would see more in the winners circle...

Adam Petty....had it.....
 
I must've missed the F-bomb. When was it? During the confrontation there wasn't any sound and I don't remember it during his interview.
 
It was at "the Glen" when Petty was an inrace reporter, and was invovled in an wreck.

Well yeah I knew he supposedly did it there. (While we may have recognized his voice his face wasn't on TV and it was a replay). But, the way wolfcub made it sound was like he had dropped one on Denny. He probably did but I didn't hear it.
 
No, I was saying that NASCAR diod nothing to him at the Glen for the "F" bomb and now it does not appear that they will do anything to him for this latest incident, but I guess we will see.
 
He was on open mic at the glen. and it was a replay. not his falght there. it was NASCAR's and the networks for not editing it before they showed it.
 
No, I was saying that NASCAR diod nothing to him at the Glen for the "F" bomb and now it does not appear that they will do anything to him for this latest incident, but I guess we will see.

Why should they? He didn't do anything. Ok, he took down the net and pointed his finger. I'm sure he was just thanking Denny for that large donation he was going to make to the VJG Camp.

You might also have noticed the good thing he did. He flicked that fly that had landed on Denny's helmet. He is such a good hearted soul he knows what a bother it can be when a fly gets inside your helmet.

So I don't know what you think he should be penalized for...
 
Why should they? He didn't do anything. Ok, he took down the net and pointed his finger. I'm sure he was just thanking Denny for that large donation he was going to make to the VJG Camp.

You might also have noticed the good thing he did. He flicked that fly that had landed on Denny's helmet. He is such a good hearted soul he knows what a bother it can be when a fly gets inside your helmet.

So I don't know what you think he should be penalized for...

And that is precisely why if NASCAR does not do anything then they are showign preference. That is the same line of BS every driver gives when they get PO's d and do something yet NASCAR has fined many of them in the past.
 
First, thart incident was at Sonoma.

Second, that was shown on tape and not live. That was not his fault, therefore he was not fined. Apparently some people don't know the difference.
 
While I don't agree with Kyle going into Denny's garage and confronting him, I don't think what he did is any more serious than Montoya and Harvick pushing and shoving at the Glen.
 
I think it's high time someone went up to Stewart Jr. and told him a thing or two.

And without getting to personal here, I wonder if he understood what was being said anyway.

Just my opinion. Nothing more, nothing less. :)
 
First, thart incident was at Sonoma.

Second, that was shown on tape and not live. That was not his fault, therefore he was not fined. Apparently some people don't know the difference.

Yep, it was at Sonoma and I don't think it was tape, it happened because Kyle was the "in-race reporter" and they clicked on his radio and caught what he said by accident. Thus, no fine.

I still think they should be consistent with their fines, though. I couldn't believe Juan and Kevin weren't fined at The Glen. Nascar said they were just "having a discussion." Yeah, right! I think that's what Jeff Gordon was having with Kevin the year before ;) and he got fined.

I think Kyle was wrong to go into Denny's garage and get up in his face and slam his visor down. If that had been a number of other drivers, you can be sure they would have been fined!

I think what you all might be thinking about at The Glen was Kyle going into his hauler after his car failed and giving it a bit of a "love tap" :rolleyes: which broke his hand and kept him out of several races.
 
surprised fines weren't announced today for either party?

is the jury still in deliberation?
 
If nascar is going to do the consistant thing, they have set precedent with the Juan/Kevin incident that there will be no fine/penalty. If they chose to fine Kyle, that would not be in there best interest right now. Afterall, we know about those psky fly's in Dover. Right BP???
 
While I don't agree with Petty putting his hands on Hamlin's when he's strapped in the car, I thnk it's right of Hamlin to be man enough to at least take his helmit off before getting out of the car.
 
Why would they fine anyone for arguing with another driver? The reason the Gorden/Kenseth thing got a fine was for the hard shove that took place. I didn't know Gordon was strong enough to push someone like that. But the Petty/Hamlin thing and the Pablo/Harvick thing did not get as physical.
 
Why would they fine anyone for arguing with another driver? The reason the Gorden/Kenseth thing got a fine was for the hard shove that took place. I didn't know Gordon was strong enough to push someone like that. But the Petty/Hamlin thing and the Pablo/Harvick thing did not get as physical.


Oh, come on!! You know Petty slammed down Denny's visor hard enough to crack the chin plate of the helmet and leave a permanent depression in the seat.
Y'all making way too much of this. Also, it wasn't that Jeff's shove was so hard it's that Matt is such a lightweight they have to put lead in his underwear to keep him from floating away.
All I've ever heard is how the drivers are becoming automatons. Not showing any emotion. Being Mikeyesque and reciting their sponsors and how great their car was regardless of what the truth was. But, let 1 guy step away from being PC and a lot of you want to castrate him and bounce him down to racing bikes.
Well, I for one, say make up your minds. Do you want racers who feel and act like humans or do you want them to all be good little boys and girls and never show how they really feel. You can't have it both ways.
 
Oh, come on!! You know Petty slammed down Denny's visor hard enough to crack the chin plate of the helmet and leave a permanent depression in the seat.
Y'all making way too much of this. Also, it wasn't that Jeff's shove was so hard it's that Matt is such a lightweight they have to put lead in his underwear to keep him from floating away.
All I've ever heard is how the drivers are becoming automatons. Not showing any emotion. Being Mikeyesque and reciting their sponsors and how great their car was regardless of what the truth was. But, let 1 guy step away from being PC and a lot of you want to castrate him and bounce him down to racing bikes.
Well, I for one, say make up your minds. Do you want racers who feel and act like humans or do you want them to all be good little boys and girls and never show how they really feel. You can't have it both ways.


I agree that we can't have it both ways but not everyone thinks the same way about any given situation. Some people want it PC, some would like to see UFC after every race and then there are those somewhere in the middle.

Yes, Kenseth is a lightweight but it's not like Gordon is Apollo Creed. It looked worse than it actually was because Kenseth wasn't expecting it.

I was taught a long, long time ago how to deal with someone when they go to shove you - apparently Kenseth wasn't :)
 
THAT'S BECAUSE IT REALLY WASN'T JEFF GORDON. IT WAS HIS STUNT DOUBLE :lol2: JUST KIDDING
 
You keep your window net up and your helmet on. Heck, i'd do what Jeff did and keep my helmet on. Don't want to get hit up side the head by anything.
 
Why would they fine anyone for arguing with another driver? The reason the Gorden/Kenseth thing got a fine was for the hard shove that took place. I didn't know Gordon was strong enough to push someone like that. But the Petty/Hamlin thing and the Pablo/Harvick thing did not get as physical.

Jeff gave Kenseth ONE push... and stop picking on my driver btw.. LMAO j/k!

Juan and Kevin were doing some shoving... as I recall. The officials had to come between them and it was either Biffle or Burton (I CRS!) who came and took his boy out of the fray. Plus Harvick blocked Montoya's car on the track so he could go after him. Sure seemed like "someone" should have been fined. Maybe looking like idiots was fine enough for them? As I recall one of the drivers said they looked like a couple of "Power Rangers." LMAO!
 
Oh, come on!! You know Petty slammed down Denny's visor hard enough to crack the chin plate of the helmet and leave a permanent depression in the seat.
Y'all making way too much of this. Also, it wasn't that Jeff's shove was so hard it's that Matt is such a lightweight they have to put lead in his underwear to keep him from floating away.
All I've ever heard is how the drivers are becoming automatons. Not showing any emotion. Being Mikeyesque and reciting their sponsors and how great their car was regardless of what the truth was. But, let 1 guy step away from being PC and a lot of you want to castrate him and bounce him down to racing bikes.
Well, I for one, say make up your minds. Do you want racers who feel and act like humans or do you want them to all be good little boys and girls and never show how they really feel. You can't have it both ways.

It's not so much what WE want. It's Nascar being consistent. When they fine one driver for something and not another, it makes it look like they're showing favortism. Ummm..Nascar show favortism toward a Petty?!! Nooooooo....... they wouldn't do THAT! ;)
 
I don't think there should ever be a fine unless a punch is thrown or some other intent to injure the other guy. Or make it like hockey and let them beat the crap out of each other and both drivers have go to the pits for 5 minutes.
 
I don't think there should ever be a fine unless a punch is thrown or some other intent to injure the other guy. Or make it like hockey and let them beat the crap out of each other and both drivers have go to the pits for 5 minutes.


OMG..that would be crazy stuff!! My son and I were watching the play-offs last Spring and cracking up at the refs just standing there while they let them beat each other to a pulp as much as they could before they stopped them. LOL
 
OMG..that would be crazy stuff!! My son and I were watching the play-offs last Spring and cracking up at the refs just standing there while they let them beat each other to a pulp as much as they could before they stopped them. LOL


I imagine they did!

That's not a situation you want to jump in the middle of until they're tired out.
 
Raines Penalized for Throwing Helmet

Tony Raines was fined $15,000 and docked 25 Busch Series points for throwing his helmet at Robby Gordon.

Raines was angry at Gordon after Gordon knocked him out of Saturday's race at Dover International Raceway, and he waited on the track for Gordon to pass by under caution. He then hurled his helmet at Gordon.

NASCAR penalized Raines for entering the racetrack surface without authorization and throwing his helmet at a competitor's car. In addition, car owner DeLana Harvick was docked 25 owner points.

No Penalty for Petty: NASCAR will not penalize Kyle Petty for slapping the visor of Denny Hamlin in the garage area following their accident in Sunday's Dodge Dealers 400, a NASCAR spokesman said.(SceneDaily.com)(9-27-2007)

Okay just so I am straight on this - Thorowing a helmet at a 2-ton piece of metal surrrounding a driver is a no-no but physically hitting a driver on his helmet is okay?? Glad NASCAR cleared that one up!!!
 
Okay just so I am straight on this - Thorowing a helmet at a 2-ton piece of metal surrrounding a driver is a no-no but physically hitting a driver on his helmet is okay?? Glad NASCAR cleared that one up!!!

Throwing the helmet AND walking out onto the racetrack.
 
Okay just so I am straight on this - Thorowing a helmet at a 2-ton piece of metal surrrounding a driver is a no-no but physically hitting a driver on his helmet is okay?? Glad NASCAR cleared that one up!!!

If you thought what Kyle did was hitting a driver then I'd hate for you to see an actual altercation. You're making way too much of him flipping down Denny's visor. And, that's all that contact was.
 
You all amaze me. It is not wheter what Kyle did was a wussy hit or not it is the fact that NASCAR continues to dole out the most unequal punishment they can.

What damage is throwing a helmet going to do do to a 2-ton piece of metal or the driver? NONE!! Plus this was the done in the heat of the moment just like the Harvick/Montoya thing.

Petty on the other hand. Got out of his car hunted down a driver in HIS garage and then put his hands on the driver. This is not heat of the moment this was intentional yet no fine.
 
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