Menards 200 Toledo

[Digger]

Actually they are just partners. Shannon maintains sheltra's dirt late models in his illinois shop and when shannon is over on the east coast he uses sheltras shop in florida to work out of as well as clint bowyers. But your right im sure some funding comes from sheltras


Would be cool to see shannon run with them guys in a couple races. Was cool to see josh richards run with the camping world east series and run in the top 10

It would be cool -- but seeing as, to all accounts, the whole team was in on this and the whole team was celebrating the fact that their driver tore up a bunch of racecars, I think the whole team deserves a suspension as well.

 

[Camp65]

Your right, the whole team celebrated and taunted those around them along with Chris Knight. Or perhaps Knight was just exicited the race was over and he could go get something to eat. Knight should be removed from anything too do with ARCA as far as the Thunder show. He has a very biased opinion.

 

[Digger]

He has a very unbiased opinion.

Did you mean biased opinion.

I couldn't believe some of the crap excuses Chris was giving.

Scott Speed deserved a points penalty and a big fine and suspension (if he would've come back) but Sheltra only deserves probation...

 

[Camp65]

All the excuses in the world will not explain what happened. As I said before this was set up with the aid of the spotter to make this happen.

Chris Knight has now lost what little credibility he had. His welcome has been wearing fast and this should just about end all the trips to hang out in the ARCA trailer. He actually thinks he has some level of relevance. WRONG! I have seen him sneaking food/snacks etc. when he thinks nobody is watching. Cant he get enough to eat at the Sheltra hauler?

 

[Digger]

All the excuses in the world will not explain what happened. As I said before this was set up with the aid of the spotter to make this happen.

First of all, I've bit my tongue as best as I can. Chris is a good guy, and I'd appreciate it if you left him out of it, unless it's relevant to the discussion about the incident that took place on the track in Toledo.

As far as Sheltra goes, I like him a lot -- but I call it as I see it. That was the most blatant thing I ever saw in my entire life. (I may be young, but I go to 2-3 races every weekend, along with watching at least 6 televised races during the work week) That looked like something you'd expect to take place between siblings driving bumper cars at the Maryland State Fair, not in an organized professional stock car race.

You're right. ARCA owes a statement to the teams, drivers, fans and sponsors. Sheltra wrecked out a fan favorite in Frank Kimmel, wrecked out Craig Goess. Neither of those drivers had anything to do with it. Goess is paying a lot of money to race that car -- and he's putting in a lot of work to keep going. Instead of getting a top-10 finish, the young man has a wrecked up racecar to fix now.

I have no problem with paying a driver back. If I was Sheltra, I would've done the same thing. It got out of hand when Sheltra wrecked other drivers out though. And to do it on a GWC finish and affect the outcome of a race is bull ****, I don't care who's driving. He had 160 laps to cool down -- instead he and the team used that 160 laps to plan how they were going to pay him back. And the best they could come up with was to wreck 2 other cars who had nothing to do with it before wrecking Menard.



At the bare minumum, Sheltra should be fined whatever the cost of repairing Kimmel and Goess' cars is, placed on probation and docked a hefty amount of points. But I think parking the entire team for a few weeks is what needs to be done.

 

[Camp65]

That is fair enough. I do not have anything against Knight personally but to see him gloat along with the rest of the team as they walked back to the hauler was more than I can stomach. That was started me in about him. He should be a professional and leave himself out of it. So with that, I will use better judgement and leave him out of it.

 

[Digger]

The silence is deafening!

 

[Princess]

If they do actually suspend him maybe his late model driver Shannon Babb will get a shot at pavement racing. He does well in the World of Outlaws, would be interesting to see him in ARCA.

You will more than likely see him at one of ARCA dirt races

 

[Princess]

Actually they are just partners. Shannon maintains sheltra's dirt late models in his illinois shop and when shannon is over on the east coast he uses sheltras shop in florida to work out of as well as clint bowyers. But your right im sure some funding comes from sheltras


Would be cool to see shannon run with them guys in a couple races. Was cool to see josh richards run with the camping world east series and run in the top 10

Shannon has nothing to do with clint bowyer anymore.... And Patrick doesn't have a race shop in Florida. lol

 

[toledo47]

You will more than likely see him at one of ARCA dirt races

That would be cool to see. I was dissappointed to see Shannon quit following the Outlaws to run the Summernationals. I follow the Outlaws a lot and he is always a fun one to watch.

 

[Princess]

Sheltra Motorsports PR is a joke in itself. All Chris Knight does is walk around as if he is the next Chris Economacki. He had to start somewhere and he has done a nice job with SOME of his work. He knows how to spin the bull crap for sure. He has drank the Sheltra Kool Aid and has been brain washed. He makes himself at home in the ARCA trailer as if it was his own office. I have heard several ARCA officials speak of a dislike of him.

If he really wants to tell the story of getting dumped in Toledo then tell about how much booze Sheltra dumped down his throat this weekend at the Toledo Speedway Bar & Grille. Along with mentioning that the team struggled to find speed in practice please mention how your driver struggles to walk out of the bar on most any race weekend in any town. He even had the nerve to say the team found two additional hiccups in the car. Did you stop to think that that it was just the driver who was likely still soaked to the gills in booze?

It was mentioned that I am not a Patrick Sheltra fan. Not true in a way. I neither liked or disliked him before this weekend but this idiot needs to be exposed for the fraud he is. I am going to take the time to send the youtube link to every one of his sponsors. There are 70 other currently listed ARCA ReMax car owners that will get the link. I would urge them that they DEMAND that this idiot be parked. I dont want this on probation BS for the rest of the year and a $1K fine. I wonder how they would explain to their new sponsor as to why they will not be racing next week?

Have fun running dirt late models 'cause that where your headed.

haha...easy there bud.
First off--How the hell you would you feel if you were racing toward a championship week after week and some bonehead "big shot" comes in for one race and takes you out?
Secondly--His sponsors were at the race and loved it! They actually just decided to go Nationwide with him next year. They know about his attitude and love that he won't take crap from anybody.
Thrid--He WAS on probation....BUT they decided to drop it after the first race....

 

[Digger]

haha...easy there bud.
First off--How the hell you would you feel if you were racing toward a championship week after week and some bonehead "big shot" comes in for one race and takes you out?
Secondly--His sponsors were at the race and loved it! They actually just decided to go Nationwide with him next year. They know about his attitude and love that he won't take crap from anybody.
Thrid--He WAS on probation....BUT they decided to drop it after the first race....

Payback rules

Rule #1: Don't affect the outcome of the race.
Rule #2: Don't wreck drivers who had nothing to do with the incident.
Rule #3: Don't wait until the last lap.

BTW, welcome to the nuthouse.

 

[Camp65]

His sponsors were at the race and loved it! They actually just decided to go Nationwide with him next year. They know about his attitude and love that he won't take crap from anybody.

Oh we will be holding our breath on that one. Is Jay Robinson going too sell a
car number to Sheltra again the way he did last year and he can go run mid pack at best? He would not have even qaulified for the 2 races without somebodys provisional too get him in. Perhaps he can try the truck series...oh wait he already did and was black flagged at Atlanta for being "too slow"

Face it, Sheltra has no chance at any title in ARCA this year. He won at Salem and drove a smart race and the crew made the right calls. That is all yesterdays news. It is no fault of Sheltras, but he will get very limited TV time if any unless he is running top 3 in the race. The script has been written for Parker Kligerman and any other teenager that is winning. That is the way ARCA operates. Somebody like Kligerman will get a Nationwide ride as soon as he wants it. Of course Sheltra can have anything he wants with daddys money bankrolling him.

With that said, I hope he takes his daddys money and take crap from nobody attitude and see how far it gets him in NASCAR.

Oh and one other thing about NASCAR...they do random drug tests EVERY WEEK.

Good Luck!

 

[Princess]

Oh we will be holding our breath on that one. Is Jay Robinson going too sell a
car number to Sheltra again the way he did last year and he can go run mid pack at best? He would not have even qaulified for the 2 races without somebodys provisional too get him in. Perhaps he can try the truck series...oh wait he already did and was black flagged at Atlanta for being "too slow"

Face it, Sheltra has no chance at any title in ARCA this year. He won at Salem and drove a smart race and the crew made the right calls. That is all yesterdays news. It is no fault of Sheltras, but he will get very limited TV time if any unless he is running top 3 in the race. The script has been written for Parker Kligerman and any other teenager that is winning. That is the way ARCA operates. Somebody like Kligerman will get a Nationwide ride as soon as he wants it. Of course Sheltra can have anything he wants with daddys money bankrolling him.

With that said, I hope he takes his daddys money and take crap from nobody attitude and see how far it gets him in NASCAR.

Oh and one other thing about NASCAR...they do random drug tests EVERY WEEK.

Good Luck!

What the hell does drug test have to do with anything?? Just because somebody drinks beer that means they do drugs? I've been around Patrick for almost 5 years. Never once seen him touch any sort of drug.

That truck race was a joke. He was running ****ty equipment and didnt even have a full crew behind him. I had to jump down off the pit box and hold the sign so that they could do a pit stop. I guess thats what you get with Andy Belmont.....

Yea his Dad supports him. What's your point? Name one person driving right now who hasn't used "Daddy's Money" at some point. Ohh wait you can't. And with the equpiment Kligerman is in I would hope he would win everyrace.
Try being in a family owned/operated team.

 

[Digger]

Try being in a family owned/operated team.

You mean like half the teams in ARCA and Trucks?

Ryan Hackett led a few laps