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Half way point, 13 races ran, 13 races left before the reset. The Gen 6 car is 13 races old, expensive car to race for Hamlin,:) but they can't fine us for our opinion. I think the car is an improvement in safety and drive ability, not sure if the extra speed is helpful, and the dreaded aero push/clean air is still there, but nobody can talk about it. I thought foolishly that the "spec" bodies and suspensions would give the underfunded teams a better chance to compete. The only exception is Kurt Busch, and he isn't on an underfunded team, but a one car team. The rookie of the year is really twisted. Stenhouse is really doing well for his first year in cup, but the spotlight is on the rookie in the green car. With Dodge leaving while they were at the top of the heap, I wasn't looking forward to this season, but with 5 Chevys, 3 Toyotas, and 2 Fords in the top 10 at mid-season, I don't think the racing has suffered too much without 4 manufactures in the fray.
Tony Stewart is the big news at mid-season, with his win he has qualified for a wild car spot. Many have counted him out, but if he can points race into the 12th spot or better in the next 13 races, he could pull off another championship. Jimmy Johnson is way ahead on points at mid-season, instead of points racing with almost a full race lead, Jimmy and crew are still going for the win. Hard for the haters to see, but he is making more history and records that Nascar fans will see happen in a lifetime of watching probably. The reset for the chase will add a new dimension again...maybe
 
The Danica haters sure are monopolizing the forum pages . She's quitely sitting in 29th and I think could move up two or three spots by year end . Ricky is having an incredible year in 15th , I don't see him being able to sustain that position , he could fall back two or three spots by year end . Kenseth has been the story so far .(Along with TRD engines ). Big disappointments ( to me) are Keselowski and Bowyer .
 
Almirola is doing what I expected Ambrose to do. Edwards seems to have gotten rid of last year's bad luck. I wasn't expecting Kensith to be running so well with a new team, he could be real competition for Jimmy. I've been impressed with Stenhouse's rookie run and disappointed with Danica's results.
 
I think the racing has been fabulous.I have heard people talk about the beginning of the race being boring. I would be willing to bet there have been more lead lap passes this year than ever before.

I am not a JJ hater. For instance, I love ham and beans, but after I have eaten them for five straight years, they just don't taste the same. ;)

Danica has polarized the sport, you either love her or hate her.
 
Biggest surprise has been Ganassi - they've gotten it together the past few weeks. Honestly, I've always thought Montoya could compete in Cup (he made the Chase in 2009 and did it the hard way) but Ganassi equipment just hasn't been there the past few years. McMurray had a good year in 2010 but even then he couldn't make the Chase. I'd really like to see Montoya get a win or two.

Biggest disappointment has been the Nationwide Series. I was excited the past few seasons and I really thought it'd be good this season with Kyle Larson there. But the fact is, the Nationwide Series is no longer a development series. It's a series where rookie drivers go to be a supporting act to the Kyle Busch Show and, because they can't beat Kyle and the Sprint Cup powerhouse team behind him in their second and third tier equipment, they end up not lasting in NASCAR. I'm never a fan of NASCAR intervention but NASCAR has to put a stop to this. I don't mind Cup drivers running a limited Nationwide schedule, but this needs to be dealt with. It went overboard in 2006 when NASCAR let Harvick turn Nationwide in to his personal playground. When 31 year-old Danica Patrick is the future of this sport, you know it's in trouble.
 
Smoke14 said:
I think the racing has been fabulous.I have heard people talk about the beginning of the race being boring. I would be willing to bet there have been more lead lap passes this year than ever before.
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It's like the 1990s. Daytona and Talladega suck but the rest of the races are solidly entertaining.
 
Good thread, with some equally good responses :biggrin:

I think that the season to this point has been the best in a while. Many were expecting as much with all the stories to follow and it hasn't disappointed, IMO.
 
I will agree with StandOnIt about the extra speed in this Gen 6 car ---- I really don't think it's necessary for good racing. I well remember the days of 170mph racing and it was great.
I'm neutral when it comes to Danica -- one thing she has done is put eyes on the sport.
I will agree with Andy about the N'wide series ---- limit the number of races a Cup driver can enter. We need a development series. Yes, I know Cup drivers in the races put butts in the seats, but the young drivers need to have their butts in the seat, too.
 
A few other notes.

Brad Keselowski needs to focus more on driving and less on tweeting. I think his post-Talladega rant summed it all up. He's frustrated that he's not winning races and instead of focusing on what he can do to be better as a driver or what his team can do to improve, he's blaming NASCAR. And honestly, this is nothing new for Keselowski. He's always had this mild "everyone's out to get me" sort of paranoia thing going on.

Ricky Stenhouse, Jr. has been under-rated. He could probably wind up winning a race this year. He's just been lurking and running about the same as many rookies have in the past.

Regan Smith is having a stellar year in Nationwide but nobody's talking about him.

Danica Patrick, IMO, is just not doing well. I keep hearing all the excuses about she's a rookie and she's not supposed to win races and this and that. I don't think anyone expected her to win races. Hell, even for a rookie who was coming in to the sport and running quality equipment, expectations were set really really low for her - and even then, she's not meeting them. She's had a couple of good runs but, for the most part, her rookie season is on-par with Jeff Burton's 1994 season with Stavola Brothers - except Burton's poor results were generally due to parts failures, not piss poor performances and countless wrecks. I think I could give her a pass if she was finishing in the 20s or even around 30th or 31st IF she was, at most, a lap or two down - given the level of competition in this sport, it wouldn't be stellar but it wouldn't be terrible either for a rookie driver. But that's not the case. A "good run" for her is when she finishes 24th, FOUR laps down. That is not even in the same universe as a good performance.
 
Andy brought up a good point about Nationwide. I think Nascar put a band aid on the problem because they could foresee a cup driver winning both a nationwide title and a cup title in the same year. Probably fan outcry helped also. They made the drivers commit to either cup or nationwide. I think when this came about Carl was running both series and he was hot, but I could be wrong. At any rate, the more I think about it, I am tilting over to the dark side of limiting cup drivers participation. I think 24 races is too many, probably 6 races for each cup driver would suit me. That way 4 car teams could spread out their drivers and still make their sponsors happy if they choose too, and that would keep one driver from dominating the majority of the races.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
I will agree with Andy about the N'wide series ---- limit the number of races a Cup driver can enter. We need a development series. Yes, I know Cup drivers in the races put butts in the seats, but the young drivers need to have their butts in the seat, too.
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StandOnIt said:
Andy brought up a good point about Nationwide. I think Nascar put a band aid on the problem because they could foresee a cup driver winning both a nationwide title and a cup title in the same year. Probably fan outcry helped also. They made the drivers commit to either cup or nationwide. I think when this came about Carl was running both series and he was hot, but I could be wrong. At any rate, the more I think about it, I am tilting over to the dark side of limiting cup drivers participation. I think 24 races is too many, probably 6 races for each cup driver would suit me. That way 4 car teams could spread out their drivers and still make their sponsors happy if they choose too, and that would keep one driver from dominating the majority of the races.
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Six races would be enough. I don't think the Cup drivers in Nationwide are putting fans in seats they way it used to. We're not talking about the days of Nationwide visiting some rinky-dink track in North Carolina where you might have Darrell Waltrip and Mark Martin show up. We're now talking about a "support" race where anywhere from a quarter to a half of the field are the very same drivers the fans are gonna watch race on Sunday. They might get a couple thousand people to show up to those races and maybe a few thousand people watching on TV - Kyle Busch's fans mainly, but in the meantime, people like me, people who have watched the sport for a long time and will stick around because we love racing, not one single driver, are tuning out.

People like me spend a lot of time at short tracks and we watch these drivers. There are tens of thousands of people like me - whether they're a fan or a driver or a crew member - people who have a lot more time, money, blood and sweat invested in this sport than the 1,500 Kyle Busch fans who might show up to a Nationwide Series race to watch Kyle win. And it's people like me that NASCAR's losing by letting this crap continue.
 
A B K...A B K ... A B K . the Nationwide series would be fine if it was anybody but Kyle ...A B K ...A B K ...A B K :jamming:
 
Mid-season? Sorry, those of us who don't recognize the Chase won't be at mid-season for five more races :D

The Gen 6 seems to be more successful at this point than the COT was. I think the racing is better, defined as faster and with fewer cautions and more competitive passes. I don't know yet if Ganassi's turn-around is for real. Historically, Tony isn't worth much before Memorial Day, but he's dug quite a hole this time. Gibbs might consider using the #11 as a test team; Denny ain't making the Chase. Maybe that would help find some consistency in the Department of Engine Durability. The Dodge rumors are still being muttered around the edges. Danica has more rookie seasons than Mark Martin has retirement tours. Attendance is down across all tracks and series, but whether that's due to the economy or overall declining popularity or ticket and weekend travel prices is up for debate.
 
Racing is pretty good, happy about how that is going. Like other people have said, the NW series has been taken over by Kyle Busch (as well as Logsowski in a supporting role), so I really think Nascar needs to limit these drivers to 5 races a year, or 10 of they are driving for a different team then they drive for in cup. No suprise to see JJ leading the standings, but I didnt think it would be by this much. I was one of the few people that saw the potential in Almirola so its nice to see him kicking butt.
 
The first thing that I think we need to ask our selves, does our opinions benefit us as a fan more then it benefits the needs of the younger drivers. I don't have a problem with Nascar cutting back or eliminating cup drivers altogether from competing in the Nationwide series if I thought it would help the younger drivers or the seat attendance. I don't root for the cup drivers in Nationwide races anyway. But, I want the younger drivers to learn and become the best drivers that they can... before they get into a cup car. Cup drivers are their teachers, and when they are not there then the younger less experienced drivers have to learn from other younger less experienced drivers that doesn't know anymore then they do. I think they need the cup drivers there to teach and push these kids to make them better drivers and get them ready for the cup series. I don't know...but maybe they need to restrict the cup drivers cars a little. We all want to think that our ideas are the right ones, but most of us are not experts, so who knows, maybe none of us have the right answer.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Six races would be enough. I don't think the Cup drivers in Nationwide are putting fans in seats they way it used to. We're not talking about the days of Nationwide visiting some rinky-dink track in North Carolina where you might have Darrell Waltrip and Mark Martin show up. We're now talking about a "support" race where anywhere from a quarter to a half of the field are the very same drivers the fans are gonna watch race on Sunday. They might get a couple thousand people to show up to those races and maybe a few thousand people watching on TV - Kyle Busch's fans mainly, but in the meantime, people like me, people who have watched the sport for a long time and will stick around because we love racing, not one single driver, are tuning out.

People like me spend a lot of time at short tracks and we watch these drivers. There are tens of thousands of people like me - whether they're a fan or a driver or a crew member - people who have a lot more time, money, blood and sweat invested in this sport than the 1,500 Kyle Busch fans who might show up to a Nationwide Series race to watch Kyle win. And it's people like me that NASCAR's losing by letting this crap continue.
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Nitro Dude said:
The first thing that I think we need to ask our selves, does our opinions benefit us as a fan more then it benefits the needs of the younger drivers. I don't have a problem with Nascar cutting back or eliminating cup drivers altogether from competing in the Nationwide series if I thought it would help the younger drivers or the seat attendance. I don't root for the cup drivers in Nationwide races anyway. But, I want the younger drivers to learn and become the best drivers that they can... before they get into a cup car. Cup drivers are their teachers, and when they are not there then the younger less experienced drivers have to learn from other younger less experienced drivers that doesn't know anymore then they do. I think they need the cup drivers there to teach and push these kids to make them better drivers and get them ready for the cup series. I don't know...but maybe they need to restrict the cup drivers cars a little. We all want to think that our ideas are the right ones, but most of us are not experts, so who knows, maybe none of us have the right answer.
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Young drivers don't benefit when they get K&N rides and then, when it's time to move up to Nationwide, there isn't a quality ride for them because of Kyle Busch, Joey Logano and Brad Keselowski. They don't benefit when their options are to race in equipment where they'd be finishing 23rd or worse each week and, essentially, be weeded out of the sport. Most of the drivers in Nationwide with quality rides right now are either Cup drivers, drivers who bought their rides or drivers who got their rides because they're the grandsons of a Cup team owner. You have a lot of quality drivers in Nationwide that are in crap equipment and will be driven out of the sport in two years because they're considered to be poor drivers because they can't beat Kyle Busch's Sprint Cup powerhouse team's cars with their rinky dink low budget cars.

Cup drivers running 10-12 races a year, the way it used to be, it used to help Nationwide drivers. Now, they're running 25-30 races a year and Nationwide drivers don't get a chance to stand out because they're there for the sole purpose of being a supporting cast member in the Kyle Busch Show. Everyone, except Kyle's fans, can see it.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Six races would be enough. I don't think the Cup drivers in Nationwide are putting fans in seats they way it used to. We're not talking about the days of Nationwide visiting some rinky-dink track in North Carolina where you might have Darrell Waltrip and Mark Martin show up. We're now talking about a "support" race where anywhere from a quarter to a half of the field are the very same drivers the fans are gonna watch race on Sunday. They might get a couple thousand people to show up to those races and maybe a few thousand people watching on TV - Kyle Busch's fans mainly, but in the meantime, people like me, people who have watched the sport for a long time and will stick around because we love racing, not one single driver, are tuning out.

People like me spend a lot of time at short tracks and we watch these drivers. There are tens of thousands of people like me - whether they're a fan or a driver or a crew member - people who have a lot more time, money, blood and sweat invested in this sport than the 1,500 Kyle Busch fans who might show up to a Nationwide Series race to watch Kyle win. And it's people like me that NASCAR's losing by letting this crap continue.
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Andy, do you see the same inconsistency that I see in the two sentences that I highlighted? I am having trouble figuring out if you and the people like you are staying or leaving.:confused:
 
Also, if the fans quit watching the Nationwide Series, it doesn't matter what Cup drivers are running it if the series can't sustain itself.
 
Nitro Dude said:
Andy, do you see the same inconsistency that I see in the two sentences that I highlighted? I am having trouble figuring out if you and the people like you are staying or leaving.:confused:
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It is a love hate deal Nitro, when Danica runs in N'wide next year, all will be well.:)
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Also, if the fans quit watching the Nationwide Series, it doesn't matter what Cup drivers are running it if the series can't sustain itself.
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I doubt if anyone even needs to get their calculator out to figure that out.;)
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Young drivers don't benefit when they get K&N rides and then, when it's time to move up to Nationwide, there isn't a quality ride for them because of Kyle Busch, Joey Logano and Brad Keselowski. They don't benefit when their options are to race in equipment where they'd be finishing 23rd or worse each week and, essentially, be weeded out of the sport. Most of the drivers in Nationwide with quality rides right now are either Cup drivers, drivers who bought their rides or drivers who got their rides because they're the grandsons of a Cup team owner. You have a lot of quality drivers in Nationwide that are in crap equipment and will be driven out of the sport in two years because they're considered to be poor drivers because they can't beat Kyle Busch's Sprint Cup powerhouse team's cars with their rinky dink low budget cars.

Cup drivers running 10-12 races a year, the way it used to be, it used to help Nationwide drivers. Now, they're running 25-30 races a year and Nationwide drivers don't get a chance to stand out because they're there for the sole purpose of being a supporting cast member in the Kyle Busch Show. Everyone, except Kyle's fans, can see it.
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Now you and I are on the same page. But in your other post you said about 6 races a year, and I don't think that would be enough races for the younger drivers to learn anything. But I'm all for cutting some of their races back. If a cup driver was not running in Nationwide do you think their car owner would put a student driver in the car or just park it?
 
Nitro Dude said:
Andy, do you see the same inconsistency that I see in the two sentences that I highlighted? I am having trouble figuring out if you and the people like you are staying or leaving.:confused:
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No, I don't see the inconsistency.

It's people like me that love the sport and will always love the sport but are giving up on Nationwide racing. I have more time, money and emotion invested in this sport than many of those fans NASCAR's trying to attract by keeping this crap going will ever have. The fact is, a lot of those fans are bandwagon fans to start with. When Kyle Busch isn't winning 15 races a year in that series, they'll quit showing up. When Dale Jr can no longer hack it in Cup, they'll leave the sport by the tens of thousands. And it's people like me who will still be there - unless NASCAR decides that the short term financial gain from Jr, Kyle and Danica

This goes to everything NASCAR's done the last 10-15 years as a whole. Expanding to new markets that have no interest in NASCAR and pissing on old markets for a short term financial gain. Going out of their way to attract drivers from the west coast. The list goes on and on.

Sorry but many of the people who are totally kosher with Kyle Busch winning every Nationwide race - very few of them actually have anything invested in the sport. To them, investing in the sport means changing their middle name to "Rowdy" on Facebook. NASCAR is better off without them.
 
ted@economy said:
A B K...A B K ... A B K . the Nationwide series would be fine if it was anybody but Kyle ...A B K ...A B K ...A B K :jamming:
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Even when it's a guy like Logano I don't really enjoy it. I like Joey as a Cup driver but when a racer that has years more experience and superior equipment goes down to the minors for a large portion of the season I just can't get behind him.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Mid-season? Sorry, those of us who don't recognize the Chase won't be at mid-season for five more races :D

The Gen 6 seems to be more successful at this point than the COT was. I think the racing is better, defined as faster and with fewer cautions and more competitive passes. I don't know yet if Ganassi's turn-around is for real. Historically, Tony isn't worth much before Memorial Day, but he's dug quite a hole this time. Gibbs might consider using the #11 as a test team; Denny ain't making the Chase. Maybe that would help find some consistency in the Department of Engine Durability. The Dodge rumors are still being muttered around the edges. Danica has more rookie seasons than Mark Martin has retirement tours. Attendance is down across all tracks and series, but whether that's due to the economy or overall declining popularity or ticket and weekend travel prices is up for debate.
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Attendance being down might be a simple matter of demographics. The big population bulge "the baby boomers" are getting older, and they aren't going to as many races as they did in the past. I know that is the case with me anyway. The younger demographic, smaller in number and also not as auto sport minded aren't filling the stands. TV coverage is taking up the slack with billion dollar contracts to a large part. Tony has dug a hole, but it isn't as deep as some people think. He is only 16 points out of 12th, and with the win he is eligible. There are six drivers in the chase who don't have a win including both the drivers in the 11th and 12th spot. It will be interesting to see if this is a fluke, or if Tony lights up the afterburner, he has 13 races to move up 16 points. I'm with you on the Ganassi team. It might be both or looking at retirement/unemployment, or the Hendrick engines are quicker, or a little of both, but something lit a fire under both of them.
 
A few tracks are still a bit of a bore, but overall I think the Gen-6 is off to a much better start than the CoT.

If I were to narrow it down to three drivers going into Homestead with a shot to win the title I say they would be Johnson, Kahne, and Kenseth.

I'm surprised Montoya has been so competitive on some of the ovals this year. I knew he could get Top 10s but he's a caution and a few laps away from having two wins on them.
 
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AndyMarquisLive said:
No, I don't see the inconsistency.

It's people like me that love the sport and will always love the sport but are giving up on Nationwide racing. I have more time, money and emotion invested in this sport than many of those fans NASCAR's trying to attract by keeping this crap going will ever have. The fact is, a lot of those fans are bandwagon fans to start with. When Kyle Busch isn't winning 15 races a year in that series, they'll quit showing up. When Dale Jr can no longer hack it in Cup, they'll leave the sport by the tens of thousands. And it's people like me who will still be there - unless NASCAR decides that the short term financial gain from Jr, Kyle and Danica

This goes to everything NASCAR's done the last 10-15 years as a whole. Expanding to new markets that have no interest in NASCAR and pissing on old markets for a short term financial gain. Going out of their way to attract drivers from the west coast. The list goes on and on.

Sorry but many of the people who are totally kosher with Kyle Busch winning every Nationwide race - very few of them actually have anything invested in the sport. To them, investing in the sport means changing their middle name to "Rowdy" on Facebook. NASCAR is better off without them.
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I will always watch Nationwide because I love to watch how well the young guns improve through out the season. Personally I think you give Kyle Busch way to much credit because I don't think he has as many fans as you think he has. I think a lot of them just root for him on these forums just because they know it gets under some of the other fans skin. But I could be wrong. The bottom line for me is that I'm for what ever is best for the younger drivers future. That being said...my hats off to you for having the passion you have for racing in general.
 
I started watching the Nationwide series last year, and quit watching a couple of weeks ago, mostly because of Kyle Busch winning almost every race. So I can tell y'all NASCAR has lost at least one Nationwide fan, and I'm sure I'm not alone in my decision to quit watching NW.

Biggest surprises for me so far this year:
- Paul Menard top 10 in points; RCR doing well
- JPM nearly winning an oval race
- Tony Stewart's poor performance up until Dover

Things I'm not surprised to see at all:
- Jimmie Johnson leading the points
- Danica Patrick somewhere around 30th in points

I may think of more, but these are the thoughts that first come to mind.
 
PeopleAreStrange said:
I started watching the Nationwide series last year, and quit watching a couple of weeks ago, mostly because of Kyle Busch winning almost every race. So I can tell y'all NASCAR has lost at least one Nationwide fan, and I'm sure I'm not alone in my decision to quit watching NW.
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I agree with you I don't like either Bush brother but I started watching nw this year more than I have in other years. I started watching it just to see young guns up and comming, instead I see Bush sticking his nose in there. I think NW should be limited on how many sprint drivers can drive there. Maybe limit it to sprint drivers that are lower than 30 place then they can run NW if your above cannot.

I will be Available next week to solve the national debt.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Young drivers don't benefit when they get K&N rides and then, when it's time to move up to Nationwide, there isn't a quality ride for them because of Kyle Busch, Joey Logano and Brad Keselowski.
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Do you think those rides would have sponsors if young up-and-comers were in them instead of Cup stars?
 
The issue with the lead cars out in clean air pulling away is still there, particularly on the 1.5 mile tracks. However the Gen6 is only 13 races in so let's see how it does the rest of the year and in the coming years.

Attendance seems to be getting worse. I can't believe how many empty seats there were at Dover.
 
Sadly nascar is still diconnected, by not letting the trophy queens dress in hawt attire.
Samantha Busch looks consistently hawt every week.

I was a Tony Stewart fan, but after California he transformed to a low life.
Brad needs a woman to housebreak him (when he says something stupid, she would be there to coldly tell him he is an idiot, with a sweet voice).
Logano has less mojo after California. He needs to get back on the wheel.

JJ being strong is no surprise, but the best smooth race long speed has been Kenseth. That shouldn't be a surprise, but the entirety is, best qualifier, most laps led, wins, etc is more than I ecpected.

TRD better get their engine act together. JGR is great in all areas, and they have to much to offer to remain with the grenades.

Harvick a lame duck, and pleasant surprise.
David Ragan the feel good story of the year, I can still see him headed to the checkers at Daga.

Junior, Biffle, a slight disappointment so far.
Amarillo, Menard slightly better.

California surprisingly best race of year.
Jack Ingram in the. HoF makes me happy.
 
StandOnIt said:
Attendance being down might be a simple matter of demographics. The big population bulge "the baby boomers" are getting older, and they aren't going to as many races as they did in the past. I know that is the case with me anyway. The younger demographic, smaller in number and also not as auto sport minded aren't filling the stands. TV coverage is taking up the slack with billion dollar contracts to a large part. Tony has dug a hole, but it isn't as deep as some people think. He is only 16 points out of 12th, and with the win he is eligible. There are six drivers in the chase who don't have a win including both the drivers in the 11th and 12th spot. It will be interesting to see if this is a fluke, or if Tony lights up the afterburner, he has 13 races to move up 16 points. I'm with you on the Ganassi team. It might be both or looking at retirement/unemployment, or the Hendrick engines are quicker, or a little of both, but something lit a fire under both of them.
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I know that I've quit going to races. I gave up my season tics to Texas because my knees weren't up the to the stairs. Now, I just don't have the desire to attend. The younger demographic, that one NASCAR wants to attract, doesn't have the patience to invest 4 hours to a sport. They've grown up with "instant gratification" and don't understand waiting. They want it in 140 characters or less.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
I know that I've quit going to races. I gave up my season tics to Texas because my knees weren't up the to the stairs. Now, I just don't have the desire to attend. The younger demographic, that one NASCAR wants to attract, doesn't have the patience to invest 4 hours to a sport. They've grown up with "instant gratification" and don't understand waiting. They want it in 140 characters or less.
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yep, also and I am not getting political, with the decline of the shrinking middle class, there is less money families can spend on entertainment, wages have not kept up with ticket prices, lodging and fuel costs to attend. I think the racing is as good as it ever has been, but nothing like a video game.
 
Greg said:
Sadly nascar is still diconnected, by not letting the trophy queens dress in hawt attire.
Samantha Busch looks consistently hawt every week.

I was a Tony Stewart fan, but after California he transformed to a low life.
Brad needs a woman to housebreak him (when he says something stupid, she would be there to coldly tell him he is an idiot, with a sweet voice).
Logano has less mojo after California. He needs to get back on the wheel.

JJ being strong is no surprise, but the best smooth race long speed has been Kenseth. That shouldn't be a surprise, but the entirety is, best qualifier, most laps led, wins, etc is more than I ecpected.

TRD better get their engine act together. JGR is great in all areas, and they have to much to offer to remain with the grenades.

Harvick a lame duck, and pleasant surprise.
David Ragan the feel good story of the year, I can still see him headed to the checkers at Daga.

Junior, Biffle, a slight disappointment so far.
Amarillo, Menard slightly better.

California surprisingly best race of year.
Jack Ingram in the. HoF makes me happy.
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It looks like the President of TRD "Lee White" is stepping down immediately and will turn the reins over to someone else and he will retire at the end of the 2013 season.
 
Seee ya Lee, here is your golden parachute.o_O

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Another twist in, as the races turn, Toyota now focusing on "dependability". Will we not see the front of the qualifying field full of Toyota's anymore. The top four last week at Dover were all Toyota's with two of the four blowing up and not finishing. It will be interesting to see if they loose their speed advantage, and if they do, can they continue to dominate the top qualifying spots, or will they get better finishes. sometimes slower is better. Kenseth without his engine problems, would be higher in the standings maybe. He is the lap leader, and also has three wins at midpoint. Wonder if he will continue to win and lead all those laps in the second part of the season with the motor changes?
 
StandOnIt said:
Another twist in, as the races turn, Toyota now focusing on "dependability". Will we not see the front of the qualifying field full of Toyota's anymore. The top four last week at Dover were all Toyota's with two of the four blowing up and not finishing. It will be interesting to see if they loose their speed advantage, and if they do, can they continue to dominate the top qualifying spots, or will they get better finishes. sometimes slower is better. Kenseth without his engine problems, would be higher in the standings maybe. He is the lap leader, and also has three wins at midpoint. Wonder if he will continue to win and lead all those laps in the second part of the season with the motor changes?
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I was discussing this very point with a friend. Might the Toyota quest for speed/wins/championship have bitten them in the ass. "To finish first, you first have to finish."
 
Personally I doubt they will, but hey you never know! As I've mentioned in another thread...there is only one championship in the Gibbs organization and that was 10 years ago. Don't forget that the worlds best wheel man didn't even make the chase last year! Ill be on the edge of my seat waiting to see what happens.
 
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