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A few buds and I had a discussion last evening regarding the future of the sport and other nascar related topics. One item that kept popping up was the multicar teams. The comment was made that if nascar really wants to try to cut some costs they should limit the number of "drivers" per team. That got me to thinkin, if you limited the number to say 2 per car owner, think of the possible benefits;
Every team would have the same number of test dates alotted to them. Compare how many test dates the Rousch stable has to draw on verses say a single or 2 car team. It may not cut costs but it will certianly level the playing field a bit.

Sponsors would be freed up for other teams as well as talent. (See the Junie thread) I mean lets face it. If roush didn't use all of Sponsors he had they would more than likely sponsor another team allowing some of the teams that have been in Nascar for years an opportunity to continue.

I have more but I will let this settle for a bit. Just some ideas, any feedback is welcome.

Thanks!
 
True investors will work around any rule that would be put into action.The Manufacturing Makes like 3 car teams,I wouldn't look for any changes soon.;)
 
I've been saying for years that car owners should only be able to field two cars. And not field others under their relatives names and get away with it. It just does not seem fair to me.
 
I don't expect any changes ever. Like it or not Owners like Rousch, Yates,Gibbs, and Penske have to deep of pockets to allow any changes to happen.
 
Majority,and $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ will win 99% of the time in any sport.:)
 
I just don't see how limiting a team to 2 drivers would reduce costs or afford more opportunities.
As it stands now, many teams have "multiple" car owners to get around the rules. What makes you think it would change?
Na$ca$h is now about money and they will continue to turn a blind eye.
 
(Gibbs only has two WC teams)

But I agree, Nascar is not interested in making that kind of change.

As for cutting costs, there is an economy of scale with having more than one team, so really the prize money/sponsorship vs expense ratio isn't really 1:1
 
Originally posted by mlitefan01
I don't expect any changes ever.  Like it or not Owners like Rousch, Yates,Gibbs, and Penske have to deep of pockets to allow any changes to happen.


Gibbs only has 2 cars
 
Thwere would be no way to police that! You just install different names here & there just like they do now

how could that possibly make things better
 
I think the better question would be, would imposing such a limit be better for the competition level of the sport. There is no arguing that if Roush (or HMS, or DEI, or whoever) had to let go of two drivers, two sponsors, and two pit crews that the smaller teams would benefit.

Would such a ruling make for better racing? One must bear in mind that there are only so many Robert Yates' in the world, so if taken literally, only two cars would have Robert Yaes motors. Only two would have Roush motors. I think therein lies the thorn: You can only have two teams, but define the word team. If the Wood Brothers ran Yates motors, is that a Yates team? If HMS kept Gordon and Johnson, and Terry Labonte ran a car that had a Hendrick chasis, is that a third Hendrick team? If engine builders, chasis experts, fabricators etc are contractually obligated to work only for one owner, then I think the competition level suffers. You would have about 10 to 14 competitive cars, and 30 to 35 Brett Bodines every week. I personally don't consider that an improvement. Sure, the driver of these new teams may be a Jeff Burton or a Ricky Rudd, but even these guys can't win in junk. And we all know there are a handful of elite mechanical specialists who provide engines etc to numerous teams.

Just limiting the number of cars in a person's ownership solves very little in context of making smaller teams more competitive. I just think that to implement this idea in the sense it seems to me you have suggested would dilute the competition more than enhance it. But hey, I picked Johnny Benson at Daytona, so I could be wrong. :eek:
 
:crashcomp lets all face it racing is a money game both for the owners and nascar. if any of you are old enough to remember the old indy racing, teams came to the track with one care and one engine if they would blow and engine they would rebuild it because they did not have the money to have 3 or 4 engines in backup. as far as i am concerned that was racing. i love the old and even some of the present old dirt tracks where you have the shade tree mechanics and the week end drivers and crews who are out for racing and know they will never make the bigtime even if they are as good or better than the nascar drivers. take dale jr (nothing against him) but he was born with the name and the money and the connections. you hear the stories of the dj's and the mark martins who have worked their way up the hard way. i hate to start thinking of making rules to stop rules what is the answer? from where i stand nascar and these race tracks are making a bunch of moneybecause they know it is short lived but what happened to the $10 saturday nite races where the tony stewarts got out in the infield after the race and duked it out with the other guy over a $100 purse then sat down with the same guy and had a beer and said see you next saturday
sorry to take all of your fans time but lets get back to basics
i am now off my soap box
 
It wouldn't help, there is already the rule that you can't own more than 3 cars and they just have family named as the owner if they want more, they will just do the same if they make it 2 and it would be kind of hard and alittle unfair to regulate that. It might be a good thing and might help if they did do it but I don't see it happening.
 
There would always be a way around the rule like there is now. Roush has four teams, but only owns one team, so really only has one driver. For example, the #97 is owned by Jack Roush's mother, and Kurt Busch is her driver, Jack's mother and him just happen to work together.
 
Originally posted by pbunch
True investors will work around any rule that would be put into action.The Manufacturing Makes like 3 car teams,I wouldn't look for any changes soon.;)

I agree, you cant stop it for true.:eek:
 
the bigger question these days is, what smaller teams are you helping, i mean, try to think of any WC opperation that is full time, and only one team, i can only think of 5, and only 2 of them that have the money for WC in the fist place , the 4 smallest serious competitors are Blaney and Hamilton with 1, Gibbs and RYR waith 2, and RYR is probably adding a team next season, so i dont think it is worth screwing up the other guys to help 3 teams who it probably wouldn't help anyway.
 
hey, maybe we will see the day where there are only 10 to 12 teams in nascar:(
 
They already limit it to 2 teams for each owner but every one finds a way around it like i know for the 3 petty cars Richard owns the 43 kyle the 44 and pattie the 45, the same thing for jack, he owns 6 and 97, mark ownes 17, jack wife ownes the 99. at least thats what i think it is for Jacks team.

But if they woulfd limit it farther i would just have it as 3 cars, because if you onbly put it as 2 then it might even be harder to fill the complete feild,even if all of the other sponcors and drivers went to the smaller teams there might not be enought smaller teasm to take all of the others. now if you just limit it to 3 cars there will only be 2 or 3 teams that have to be cut out.
 
Sure would hate to see NASCAR go the way of F1. DOn't want to see any team orders happen, that was not cool to watch! :(
 
:(I think you will see the day and before long that they will not have enough cars to make a 43 car field.
 
Dan--->It has happened before once in 97 i think and at pocono this year Nascar basically made 3 teams come to fill the field.
 
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