NASCAR considering to police post-race celebrations

If they're going to stop the burnouts, they need to stop drivers doing crazy stuff in the infield where they rip the front ends off the cars.
 
To the trained eye, you could see the #11 wasnt going to pass post race inspection. So naturally he destroyed the rear end, fenders, track bar, tires , which caused a lug nut to fall off on all 4 corners. Was he hiding something? Naw, and all politicians are honest as well.
 
rocket dawg said:
To the trained eye, you could see the #11 wasnt going to pass post race inspection. So naturally he destroyed the rear end, fenders, track bar, tires , which caused a lug nut to fall off on all 4 corners. Was he hiding something? Naw, and all politicians are honest as well.
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Nascar preaching integrity to the teams is quite funny.
 
rocket dawg said:
To the trained eye, you could see the #11 wasnt going to pass post race inspection. So naturally he destroyed the rear end, fenders, track bar, tires , which caused a lug nut to fall off on all 4 corners. Was he hiding something? Naw, and all politicians are honest as well.
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:XXROFL::XXROFL::XXROFL::XXROFL::XXROFL::XXROFL::XXROFL::XXROFL:
 
cheesepuffs said:
Bodies are used multiple times and repaired as needed throughout their lifespan,
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I don't doubt what you guys are saying, but I recently heard a different view from Keselowski. I think it was on Nate Ryan's NBC podcast. He said he always laughs when drivers whine about cars getting torn up from post race bumping to express anger. He said such whines are funny because all the bodies get totally redone for every race. I doubt he was talmi g about the s.all teams, ut ztill....
 
Honestly with the insignificant penalties that come from failed post race inspection I wonder why teams would want to destroy their car.

It's seems that many drivers make a point to go until the tires explode.
 
^^ Redone ... in the absence of major damage consists of stripping the wrap / decals, repair of minor damage, a refit to the claw and a rewrap.

Straight from Roush racing.
 
^ Oops, sorry for the bad spelling. I am on mobile and bad at theze tiny keys.
 
Wrangler1 said:
Honestly with the insignificant penalties that come from failed post race inspection I wonder why teams would want to destroy their car.

It's seems that many drivers make a point to go until the tires explode.
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Your comment about insignificant penalties rings true as I was reading this morning about an NFL player who will be suspended for 10 games due to showing positive for a banned substance for the second time. He was suspended 4 games a couple of years ago and if he tests positive a third time he will be kicked out for 2 years.

In Nascar you may get docked 25 points, get a 50K fine and put on double secret probation for the rest of the year.
 
Skoalbandit33 said:
Your comment about insignificant penalties rings true as I was reading this morning about an NFL player who will be suspended for 10 games due to showing positive for a banned substance for the second time. He was suspended 4 games a couple of years ago and if he tests positive a third time he will be kicked out for 2 years.

In Nascar you may get docked 25 points, get a 50K fine and put on double secret probation for the rest of the year.
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I think if NASCAR is going to level points penalties, they should save them until the start of the chase. If you get docked 25 points for a penalty during the regular season, you start the chase with 1,975 + 3 points per win. I bet we'd see the rule-bending slow down a lot if that were the case.
 
That's foolish, Skoal. Nascar has a tough drug policy. Who has failed it twice with those minor sanctions you listed?
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Speaking of celebrations..... Does anyone remember when they stopped the drivers from climbing on top of the cars in victory lane? I think it was in 2001. I can't find any pics but it was a contraption that they built out of PVC pipe that they'd place on the car to prevent them from getting on top of their cars. Funny as heck.
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Yeah, I remember the PVC fence. NASCAR stopped drivers from climbing on the roof for the same reason they're talking about banning burnouts - because it affects post-race inspection. In the case of climbing on the roof, the car no longer fit the templates.
 
ToyYoda said:
It was the wiper.
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What was up with the wipers, anyway?

I remember when the networks introduced the roof cams. Somebody notice that the #6 had that little round housing on the front center of the roof every week, even if it wasn't carrying a camera that week. Turns out Roush had one on a car in the wind tunnel and found it helped the aero. Now I think all cars have it every week, regardless.
 
Haven't you never smoked your tires? Man and machine in a display of power beyond the bounds of useful application. Haven't you ever matted it, listened to the sound, and savored that sweet smelling smoke. NO? If I go to a race and see my guy win I want to watch him burn the house down. This is racing, the cars do the talking so why not the celebrating? I'm sorry they can keep lame-turd rules like that in F1. Besides you can't plan on winning; the risk of finishing anywhere but first in nascar is astronomical. No crew chief shows up on Sunday and says, "cheat the car up and when we win just fry everything." That is **** brain logic. peace
 
Charlie Spencer said:
What was up with the wipers, anyway?

I remember when the networks introduced the roof cams. Somebody notice that the #6 had that little round housing on the front center of the roof every week, even if it wasn't carrying a camera that week. Turns out Roush had one on a car in the wind tunnel and found it helped the aero. Now I think all cars have it every week, regardless.
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Yup, I think it was sometime in the late 90's, thinking 1999 or right around there when it became mandated, all race cars have the camera pods on the roof , either its dummy pod, or one that holds a camera, same goes for the bumper camera's, all cars have dummy pods. They started doing the dummy bumper cam pods in the Xfinity series a few years ago.
 
ToyYoda said:
To wipe away the tears of Chevy and Ford fans. :D
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I cant like this enough, but you know, its funny cuz its true, there has been a lot of whining this year because Toyota is kicking Chevy's rear end all the way to VL

GO TOYOTA !!(in NASCAR )
 
Charlie Spencer said:
What was up with the wipers, anyway?

I remember when the networks introduced the roof cams. Somebody notice that the #6 had that little round housing on the front center of the roof every week, even if it wasn't carrying a camera that week. Turns out Roush had one on a car in the wind tunnel and found it helped the aero. Now I think all cars have it every week, regardless.
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Supposedly the wipers create more drag, therefore more downforce. Don't really think it had any effect because they kept moving around from left to right and created a higher center of gravity.
 
Marcingak said:
Supposedly the wipers create more drag, therefore more downforce. Don't really think it had any effect because they kept moving around from left to right and created a higher center of gravity.
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That was to assist the car turning left and right. The wiper would move allowing the air to create down force in either direction.:rolleyes:
 
Rick said:
Haven't you never smoked your tires? Man and machine in a display of power beyond the bounds of useful application. Haven't you ever matted it, listened to the sound, and savored that sweet smelling smoke. NO? If I go to a race and see my guy win I want to watch him burn the house down. This is racing, the cars do the talking so why not the celebrating? I'm sorry they can keep lame-turd rules like that in F1. Besides you can't plan on winning; the risk of finishing anywhere but first in nascar is astronomical. No crew chief shows up on Sunday and says, "cheat the car up and when we win just fry everything." That is sh!t brain logic. peace
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No. I'm too cheap to leave more tread on the asphalt than is required for transportation.
 
I have never really been a big fan of the burnout celebration. But, driving around the track with the Checkered Flag and sharing in the moment with their crew I really enjoy. If the drivers had to clean up all the tire marks they leave and fix the grass they tear up they probably would stop on there own and NASCAR wouldn't need a rule.:)
 
Every now and then it's kinda fun to nail it and make a little smoke.

The trouble for me these days is I ain't got one that'll do it. Break traction with this'n 'n lights commence ta flashin', buzzers go off 'n the accelerator disengages until it's gotten off of.
 
Nitro Dude said:
I have never really been a big fan of the burnout celebration. But, driving around the track with the Checkered Flag and sharing in the moment with their crew I really enjoy. If the drivers had to clean up all the tire marks they leave and fix the grass they tear up they probably would stop on there own and NASCAR wouldn't need a rule.:)
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Bravo!!!!!!!!!! Best post on here so far!!! The burnouts might have been cute the first time or two........ As much as I like seafood... I don't want a steady diet of it...... I agree with you and several here that just can't understand grenading an engine and destroying perfectly good sheetmetal just to look cool........ I can never ever imagine Dale Sr. , Mark Martin, Harry Gant or any of those guys stooping to the level we have now . And.... I am certain sometimes it is done on purpose to hide things from the post race inspectors.... I have never been a fan of a big fat rule book.. but... I think for once Nascar is right to address this most childish behavior......
 
It's pretty obvious at the track that the winning teams fans love the burnouts. No need to want to rule them out IMO. That's kind of like complaining about a pre-race show. If you don't like it, don't watch it.

I think NASCAR's only concern is the excessive celebrations. If something, intentional or unintentional, is being done that causes damage to the point the the inspection process is hampered, they'll probably suffer some sort of minor penalty.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong but I don't recall King Richard, Dale Sr, Benny Parsons, Rusty, DW, Ricky Rudd, Cale, Neil Bonnet or the Allison's burning down a car in celebrations
 
I do think some drivers go a bit over the top on burnouts. I think maybe your first win and winning the championship are good times for some damn good burnouts. Celebrate them moments more as they are big moments. Maybe can even add winning the Daytona 500 to that list.
 
When the winner stops for the flag, have a NASCAR official pop the right window out, plug in a lap top and switch the traction control thing to “FULL.”

An easy fix.
 
I don't mind a little bit of a burn out but in recent years it has gotten way out of line, destroying the body the engine drive line and who knows what else.
I remember the good ol days when a driver did something like that could expect an earful from the car owner.
 
Well, Larson just broke all the rules
 
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