NASCAR exploring weeknight races

Charlie Spencer said:
I disagree. I think what you're seeing is NASCAR itself being overly protective by tossing out cautions too quickly for minor wall-brushes, or not allowing cars at the rear of the field time to recover or get out of the way.
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Agree to disagree I guess. I think the NASCAR cars are just so fragile that any contact throughout the day and your chances of winning or finishing are greatly reduced. I do agree that NASCAR has been throwing too many cautions though!
 
Simple Fan said:
Thanks. Not trying to troll anyone with my views on Martinsville at all. It's just that I've never liked it for the narrowness and flatness of the track which I feel produced boring racing and a lot of people I watch NASCAR with are the same and everyone one on here acts like it the holy grail of race tracks. Was just trying to see what made it so great to you guys.
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Now that's just silly. Everyone knows Darlington is the holy grail of race tracks. :D
 
LouieLouie said:
Agree to disagree I guess. I think the NASCAR cars are just so fragile that any contact throughout the day and your chances of winning or finishing are greatly reduced. I do agree that NASCAR has been throwing too many cautions though!
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There's another great thing about M'ville - aerodynamics don't matter much. Cars with body damage that would send them behind the wall at other tracks can keep up and even win.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Answering that question is a waste of words. @Simple Fan simply doesn't like slower short track racing.

The hot dogs though..... That's a different story. I've never had a bad Martinsville Hot Dog.
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I'm not trying to get you to make me like the track. Was just trying to see what others liked about the track as it's not well liked in my parts but loved on here.
 
Simple Fan said:
Thanks. Not trying to troll anyone with my views on Martinsville at all. It's just that I've never liked it for the narrowness and flatness of the track which I feel produced boring racing and a lot of people I watch NASCAR with are the same and everyone one on here acts like it the holy grail of race tracks. Was just trying to see what made it so great to you guys.
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In general the shorter and flatter a track is the more I like it but I completely understand that others may like the cookie cutter and plate tracks much more. No right or wrong just different strokes for different folks.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
So, last year, @ladyspartan16 started a thread that said, "I hate short tracks" ... something that was, by God's amazing grace, lost in the great server outage of 2016.

And today, @Simple Fan says Martinsville sucks.

What's going on with the world? Next thing you know, the Cubs will win the World Series, Donald Trump will be elected President and the Rams will return to Los Angeles and fire Jeff Fisher.
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I can always start another one.
 
Simple Fan said:
Thanks. Not trying to troll anyone with my views on Martinsville at all. It's just that I've never liked it for the narrowness and flatness of the track which I feel produced boring racing and a lot of people I watch NASCAR with are the same and everyone one on here acts like it the holy grail of race tracks. Was just trying to see what made it so great to you guys.
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I applaud you for actually having the nerve to post anything deragatory about Martinsville and short track racing here.....

I will have to say..... I stand with you. Martinsville was always my least favorite race on the schedule... followed by the other flat tracks..... then Bristol,,,, (this should bring a lot of comments)....... My favorites have always been the banked, longer ovals..... The higher the banking the better..... But..... everyone to themselves.... If we all liked the same things in life...... it would be pretty boring.........
 
kymartin6 said:
I applaud you for actually having the nerve to post anything deragatory about Martinsville and short track racing here.....

I will have to say..... I stand with you. Martinsville was always my least favorite race on the schedule... followed by the other flat tracks..... then Bristol,,,, (this should bring a lot of comments)....... My favorites have always been the banked, longer ovals..... The higher the banking the better..... But..... everyone to themselves.... If we all liked the same things in life...... it would be pretty boring.........
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I liked Rockingham, the old Atlanta, the old Richmond and Wilkesboro.
 
I love Martinsville and Bristol. I also love Talladega and Daytona. I love Watkins Glen and Sonoma too. What I'm trying to say is variety is the spice of life. They all have something to give. It's the difference that makes them interesting.

Short tracks specifically.. It's all that togetherness on the track. I love it when a beat up car isn't eliminated from winning the race. I know when the drivers get all pissed off that it wasn't easy racing. It reminds me of local dirt track racing also.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Weeknight races would be fine by me. I'd much rather give up a weeknight in front of the television that a Sunday afternoon or Saturday night.

Too bad they couldn't resurrect one of the older tracks like Rockingham to be a television only event. No fans in the stands. Sell the seat space to those advertisers with big a$$ banners. No need to reestablish the entire infrastructure. Just get the track back in shape and let the boys/girl have at it. Maybe even IRP. I don't know if races are even ran there at all now or what kind of shape that venue is in. The track and its safety related equipment would be the main concern. The infield care center would also have to be operational. The garages..... not needed. That's what they make those large canopies for..... just like Bristol.

Ah, who am I kidding? The 'seat watcher' contingent on here would probably suffer a collective stroke rendering racing-forums.com a vast wasteland in a remote corner on the internet. Could members here handle a fanless seating area? Doubtful.
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I like it, Sadly Rockingham would need some work Mainly removing grass from the track surface. No one would ever go for this but IMO it would be pretty cool.
 
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Interesting wording, goes out of the way to say no mid week points race, but never said anything about an All Star Race during the week. It would be great if NASCAR moved the All Star race to sometime after the NBA Finals conclude but right before NFL training camps open. There usually is a lull in the sports calendar aside from the PGA Majors, where I think NASCAR could capitalize. Move that date from Charlotte and go for Martinsville on a Weds Night, or Iowa or Gateway. I think if promoted in a yearly manner at the same time each year, the All Star race could be moved around to tracks that currently dont have a NASCAR race. Hell Id even be all for the Daytona Roval, the one the Rolex 24 races on as a All Star Venue.
 
DixieThunder24 said:
I like it, Sadly Rockingham would need some work Mainly removing grass from the track surface. No one would ever go for this but IMO it would be pretty cool.
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I love this idea. Id be all for a prime time mid week special from The Rock or Wilkesboro. Sadly I dont think it could happen unless a bunch of us here won the Lotto to buy those tracks.
 
Snappy D said:
I love this idea. Id be all for a prime time mid week special from The Rock or Wilkesboro. Sadly I dont think it could happen unless a bunch of us here won the Lotto to buy those tracks.
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Wilkesboro is in worse shape. I agree awesome but impossible unless someone buys these tracks spends a ton of money on them and then somehow convinces NASCAR to put them on the schedule.
 
http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/Daily/Issues/2017/04/05/Leagues-and-Governing-Bodies/NASCAR.aspx

However, sources said that while the idea is still on the table for the future, the various moving parts that would need to come together are unlikely to happen in time to get any on the '18 schedule. Moving a race to the middle of the week would involve clearing a host of logistical hurdles on both the media and track side that apparently have yet to come to fruition. A track source said of not getting it done for ‘18, “Too many hoops to get through.” Another track source added, “Midweek points races are an idea, but there’s a whole lot of work that needs to be done to make them viable.”
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The move could also be risky for tracks, as many NASCAR fans have grown accustomed to making weekend trips out of races and could be put off by a one-day show in the middle of the week. Industry execs said that tracks likely to try a mid-week race are those that are less reliant on campers to make up their attendance.
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Sources also would not rule out NASCAR moving the All-Star Race -- one of two non-points races each year -- to the middle of the week for '18.
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DixieThunder24 said:
I like it, Sadly Rockingham would need some work Mainly removing grass from the track surface. No one would ever go for this but IMO it would be pretty cool.
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Well you also have to upgrade the track to have new features like the SAFER barriers.
 
DixieThunder24 said:
Wilkesboro is in worse shape. I agree awesome but impossible unless someone buys these tracks spends a ton of money on them and then somehow convinces NASCAR to put them on the schedule.
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I follow Save The Speedway on Twitter and they say that Wilkesboro is in worse shape than Rockingham, I guess there's a caretaker or two that still do minimal upkeep on the track. I know one of the buildings is about to fall over but other than that I thought it was in decent shape. I have no idea myself never been to either track.
 
DixieThunder24 said:
Wilkesboro is in worse shape. I agree awesome but impossible unless someone buys these tracks spends a ton of money on them and then somehow convinces NASCAR to put them on the schedule.
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Not even Bill Gates has enough money to buy North Wilkesboro, resurrect it from its current state of disrepair, upgrade it with modern safety needs and other modern amenities and get NASCAR races there.

The place is dead. Honestly, I'd rather see it get torn down than see it sit there and continue to crumble in disrepair while leaving people with a false sense of hope that NASCAR will one day return there.

I love Rockingham but that track is too close to Charlotte Motor Speedway Darlington Speedway and also too close to short tracks at Concord Speedway Florence Motor Speedway, Dillon Motor Speedway and Southern National Motorsports Park for it to be worth the financial burden of opening back up.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
So even the non story is a story. :idunno:

Fake news!
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I don't understand the refusal to do anything to shake up the stagnant schedule.

NASCAR has done a lot to change things in the past few years, some for the better and some for the worse, but they refuse to do anything with the schedule itself -- which fans seem to view as the single biggest problem.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Not even Bill Gates has enough money to buy North Wilkesboro, resurrect it from its current state of disrepair, upgrade it with modern safety needs and other modern amenities and get NASCAR races there.

The place is dead. Honestly, I'd rather see it get torn down than see it sit there and continue to crumble in disrepair while leaving people with a false sense of hope that NASCAR will one day return there.

I love Rockingham but that track is too close to Charlotte Motor Speedway Darlington Speedway and also too close to short tracks at Concord Speedway Florence Motor Speedway, Dillon Motor Speedway and Southern National Motorsports Park for it to be worth the financial burden of opening back up.
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I have that false hope they return there myself. But outiside of that I wish an exact replica would be built in a market NASCAR doesnt occupy.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
I don't understand the refusal to do anything to shake up the stagnant schedule.

NASCAR has done a lot to change things in the past few years, some for the better and some for the worse, but they refuse to do anything with the schedule itself -- which fans seem to view as the single biggest problem.
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That because SMI and ISC has a stranglehold on the schedule. They won't allow any new players to come in and they all want a return on the investment on the ****** 1.5 mile tri-ovals.
 
SpeedPagan said:
That because SMI and ISC has a stranglehold on the schedule. They won't allow any new players to come in and they all want a return on the investment on the ****** 1.5 mile tri-ovals.
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Even then though, Las Vegas Motor Speedway has the short track and they don't even bother running even the trucks there.

And it was NASCAR's decision to leave Lucas Oil Raceway and run XFINITY at the brobdingnagian monstrosity instead.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Even then though, Las Vegas Motor Speedway has the short track and they don't even bother running even the trucks there.

And it was NASCAR's decision to leave Lucas Oil Raceway and run XFINITY at the brobdingnagian monstrosity instead.
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No kidding. Why is the Bullring, Dirt Track not getting used at LVMS? Likewise at Charlotte & Texas.
 
I have to say going to the dirt derby at Eldora every year that Wednesday night races do work as most people are more than willing to blow vacation time on a week in July.

Still IMO for a major race there are way too many fans camping for this to be feasible


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And let me add this as a graduate of Bowling Green State University, it is disgusting how the MAC has its schools essentially play no Saturday games in November. Part of what makes college football so great is the whole spectacle of it, just like racing. Nobody looks forward to tailgating on a Wednesday lol, IMO it'll really be an attendance killer just as it is for MAC football. I really hope NASCAR doesn't sellout like this


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AndyMarquisLive said:
I wish someone would build a casino at Fairgrounds Speedway Nashville so we could Cup race there. :rolleyes:
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It's amazing the fairgrounds Speedway is still there... The Davidson County Commisioners have wanted the whole area leveled and made into residential real estate for years.... It's been hanging on by the tiniest thread for the last few years.... I know Sterling Marlin has helped tremendously to keep it open..... I think maybe Darrell Waltrip... not sure about him... lot's of local racers have supported it......
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
The 2012 Daytona 500 disagrees with this. That race being a ratings blockbuster is why NBC wants weeknight races to start with.
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Well its the Daytona 500 soooooooo

Define "ratings blockbuster". The 2012 race wasnt anything special with ratings trends. If anything, 2013 was an outlier race.
 
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