NASCAR Making Move To Buy ISC

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by kkfan91, Nov 9, 2018.

  1. nickp

    nickp Team Owner

    I'm pretty sure Brian will take the money he gets and spend it on more drugs instead of using it to get the help he needs
     
  2. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yeah I wouldn't hold my breath on either. ICS owns half of the casino, and much of the real estate around the track, and Michigan is the playground of the OEM's. That is called "public incentives"
     
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  3. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I just don't see what tracks are getting the boot, independently owned Dover and Pocono, or IMS finally gives up trying NASCAR?

    It seems like Nashville is/was going to get a Cup date at the expense of Bristol most likely (or another SMI track).
     
  4. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    I don't think the Nashville thing is gonna happen. My gut feeling is we're stuck with the stagnant rotation of racetracks we have now.
     
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  5. KodiakRusty89

    KodiakRusty89 Team Owner

    Pocono still seems to be on NASCAR's good side. I don't think NASCAR wants to lose that location and history. Likewise with Dover. Not saying they'll keep 2 races/dates but they're not going to be cast aside.

    I'd still like to see a situation where basically every track has 1 date then gets a second as they rotate into the chase every 3 years or better yet, simply the "final 10 races".
     
  6. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I wouldn't be surprised if the lower series found different venues to race at. They have to drop their safety rules to race in so many tracks and I don't see them doing it for Cup anyway. I can almost guarantee Gateway, they have brought that track up to spec for Nascar and Indycar.
     
  7. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I'm not saying add 4 new tracks, but Cup could desperately benefit from having 2 new tracks (Nashville and Gateway or Road America and Gateway perhaps),maybe take 2 away by giving a rotation of every other year a track has 2 races.

    I haven't been real fond of the racing and attemdance at Michigan, but it's where OEMs are. Kansas seems to have great racing, decent attendance, and a casino. Although I've been in Hollywood Casino and it's not that huge.

    If Nashville were to be renovated/funded, I'd like to see the Nashville spring race back, Bristol spring moved to All-Star, Charlotte focuses on having two sellout weekends. That's just me though.
     
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  8. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    How could they. Bri, it looks like your gone. No more ring handing off's for you.
     
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  9. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    I thought I read a while back Kansas has something in writing that requires two races per year. Can't find anything official at the moment but this is the closest I can find.

     
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  10. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    Nice to see NASCAR held by the balls over some moderately sized casino without sports betting lol.
     
  11. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Interesting. I tried to track this down, and there was a contingency in the agreement with the Kansas Lottery Comission for the casino about NASCAR agreeing to add a second race no later than 2011. I can't find the direct language in the agreement and how long that provision applies. A lot has changed since 2010 when the project was approved. They also were required to build the infield road course and promote a major race for it. They did so, and it hosted either one or two Grand-Am races and has been mostly dormant since.
     
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  12. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I still never figured out what a casino has to do with getting a second race. Obviously it's all about money, I just don't get how one connects with the other, esp. as far as state approval goes.

    I recall Indy ran on the infield road course a couple of times. It's about the weakest excuse for a roval I know of. It's basically the first half of the Daytona infield.
     
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  13. AuzGrams

    AuzGrams Team Owner

    I don't mind the Indy Road Course at all for the IndyCar GP and what not, but I don't want NASCAR running an IMS Roval/road course race.

    The Kansas infield road course Rolex races were funny, about as basic as you can get. I think the Iowa Speedway road course had more skill to navigate.
     
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  14. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

    Heck, with as good as the racing is there, I am all in for a second date! :booya:
     
  15. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    I don't think Indy ever ran that, only the oval. They did have a race the final year of Grand-Am, and then an IMSA PC race allegedly happened the year after, although I'm not sure you could find anyone who actually saw it. But yeah, it's about as basic and low-effort as a roval layout can get.

    It's not as straight-forward as the Las Vegas deal, but I don't think - for a variety of reasons - that a Kansas date is going anywhere. Maybe if they get desperate about schedule shakeup they'll try the roval but I think that's a longshot. Kansas is usually one of the better intermediates anyways.
     
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  16. rd45usa

    rd45usa Team Owner

  17. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

  18. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

    That's SOP in a case like this. Legal beagles trying to sniff out a way to get a slice of the pie.
     

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