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This type of thing is hard to do without first firing the CEO and the entire management staff. Existing management always has baggage and alliances that prevent real change.I wonder if NASCAR has ever commissioned a study to find out why so many fans have walked away? The amount of people that no longer watch races numbers in the millions so there should be a good base from which to draw.
I understand that it is documented that the majority of fans want dumbed down racing next year. Why fans left should be documented too.
IDK how many outside of this forum like the racing the way it is but I know there is a strong contingent of us here. The poor ratings and attendance don’t influence my decision to watch the races.
from sportsmediawatch
NASCAR’s Bad Times Continue at Martinsville
Eighth race with less than a 1.5 rating this season
For the 24th time in 2018, NASCAR ratings fell to historic lows.
The NASCAR Cup Series playoffs from Martinsville (Va.) earned a 1.3 rating and 2.15 million viewers on NBCSN, down 24% in ratings and 22% in viewership from last year (1.7, 2.78M) and down 19% in both measures from 2016 (1.6, 2.67M).
Excluding rainouts, Joey Logano‘s win was the lowest rated at Martinsville since at least 1999 and the least-watched since at least 2001.
And the race had one of the best finishes in the history of Martinsville. Too bad ya missed it.
It was a good finish and I’m glad I saw it. It is the millions of others that now do other things. I think most of us hope this stabilizes soon.
Can Nelson ratings even be trusted in this day in age?
I look at it this way, NASCAR isnt going anywhere in my lifetime, it will be on TV, it doesnt matter to me how many watch or how many are at the track. Enough of us still and will remain to keep it around as an outlet for TV to use and sell and make ad revenue. I dont care if drivers salaries decrease, sponsors dont pony up as much as they used too etc...... None of that effects my enjoyment when watching, neither do rule changes or stages or tapered spacers. Its a race to me, and me and a few million a week will watch and enjoy ourselves until we are gone. Have fun while you're here folks, life is short and any race is good.
only if they go upCan Nelson ratings even be trusted in this day in age?
only if they go up
People question the ratings system there also and there is plenty of criticism to go aroundOn another thread ratings for other sports are posted and taken as a benchmark. With NASCAR it seems like the idea that ratings could be tabulated incorrectly might get some traction until they go up and all is well.
. People question the ratings system there also and there is plenty of criticism to go around
TV ratings for sporting events have been gradually declining for years. One reason is more fans are watching the games through non-traditional means, such as streaming. On that note, Variety reports that on Fox Sports streaming platforms, Game 5 was the fourth-most-streamed game in World Series history, with an average-minute audience of 240,000. That's up 40 percent from 2017’s Game 5.
Still, the TV ratings decline will feed into the narrative that MLB needs to fix the sport and deal with issues such as the length of games, pace of play and too many strikeouts.
http://www.sportingnews.com/us/mlb/...3-percent-from-2017/hdzidvtf75e11l8fxejp587eq
I guess it can be bad news, but mostly for the people in the sport who get paid.You bring up some really good points and it is beyond me why someone would devote descretionary time to something they didn’t like. With this being the TV thread there isn’t really anything pertinent for fans that love the sport and love the races. It is mainly just posting bad news and commenting on it.
from sportsmediawatch
NASCAR’s Bad Times Continue at Martinsville
Eighth race with less than a 1.5 rating this season
For the 24th time in 2018, NASCAR ratings fell to historic lows.
The NASCAR Cup Series playoffs from Martinsville (Va.) earned a 1.3 rating and 2.15 million viewers on NBCSN, down 24% in ratings and 22% in viewership from last year (1.7, 2.78M) and down 19% in both measures from 2016 (1.6, 2.67M).
Excluding rainouts, Joey Logano‘s win was the lowest rated at Martinsville since at least 1999 and the least-watched since at least 2001.
yeah that is the point with not only Nascar but all sporting events. The amount of the audience they survey is pretty small, and now add in all of the platforms that aren't measured, of course Nielsen says they are doing a good job, but without full disclosure from Nielsen on where and who is included in their surveys, there will always be controversy IMO.Does this include people that DVR and watch at a later point in time? I do this A LOT to keep my weekend days open to do things. Does this also rope in people watching live stream or say on NASCAR.com?
Yeah, so many people stayed home from Texas that it affected the numbersBoth Martinsville and Texas get a 1.6 last year. Martinsville tanks to a 1.3, Texas down a point to 1.5.
So much for more short tracks.
Yeah, so many people stayed home from Texas that it affected the numbers
Don't think so. There's not really any significant variation track-by-track outside of Daytona and Talladega. Maybe it's in the Wayback Archive somewhere since the site got taken down, but Andrew Maness did some research a while back and found that short tracks actually average slightly below average viewership.Maybe the Martinsville finish actually gave Texas a boost in ratings over what it would have had otherwise?
If that is the case, Texas certainly didn't do Phoenix any favors.
DVR figures for live sporting events are typically very low. The programming that increases a lot in your Live+3 and Live+7 ratings compared to Live+Same Day is going to be your typical scripted TV series.Does this include people that DVR and watch at a later point in time? I do this A LOT to keep my weekend days open to do things. Does this also rope in people watching live stream or say on NASCAR.com?
I tell ya what, without a diagram of where the ratings people have their measuring devices, logic says the Martinsville area would have less measuring devices than the Dallas/Ft. worth area would have.It's true that a major market like DFW and other large Texas cities are going to over-index at least somewhat in terms of viewership when the race is local to the region.
Also seemingly true is that while Martinsville is an awesome track, it is not a TV ratings savior. It is hard to believe that other less famous short tracks would be either. I still think a schedule with more obvious variety could help address the monotony many feel is a problem.