NASCAR to combine post-qualifying, pre-race inspection

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As the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series heads back East, teams will see a streamlined inspection procedure when they return to the track at Martinsville Speedway.

NASCAR’s Senior Vice President of Competition Scott Miller joined SiriusXM NASCAR Radio on Monday morning to discuss the new setup that is set to be implemented on Saturday.

“Post-qualifying and pre-race inspection are going to be lumped into one major inspection,” Miller explained. “We are actually kind of looking forward to that as a way forward. It would be really good if we could get it down to one major inspection for the weekend.”

Miller hopes this inspection process will allow fans more access to their favorite drivers on-track instead of “in the garage area trying to get out for qualifying.” However, it won’t be on the sanctioning body to help teams make it through without issue.

” … It’s up to the teams really,” he said. “They know how to do it. It’s up to the teams to not create a bad story failing post-qualifying inspection.”

https://www.nascar.com/news-media/2...alifying-pre-race-inspection-at-martinsville/
 
I'm not fond of the two-day schedule but if NASCAR is going to use it, then combining these inspections makes too much sense.
 
Fail and lose your qualifying spot.

Have to be careful with pre-race chassis changes.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I'm not fond of the two-day schedule but if NASCAR is going to use it, then combining these inspections makes too much sense.
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It does but what happens if the fail it 3 times? Is NASCAR going to allow a vehicle into the race that failed post-qualifying inspection? I hope somebody fails it 3 times and NASCAR parks them. I bet it would only have to happen once.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
What happens to a car that fails post-Q now?
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Gimmee a second while I check the rule book.
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Charlie Spencer said:
Then to answer @Towmater question, I assume cars failing post-Q / pre-race would still go to the rear. Since it's post-Q, I also assume it's a 'one and done' deal, that teams will only get one shot.
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Good assumption. I will assume that post-q will just be scrapped and pre-race inspection conducted in the normal manner. Fail and lose your qualifying spot, go to the rear after you fix whatever and go through inspection successfully.

You'll still have to pass to race.
 
For instance last week they would of qualified and the ones that didn't pass would have had to go to the back after they got legal. Eh, good solution
 
Park them. They brought an illegal car to the track. Simple solution. Unfortunately, the body that governs the sport won't make an example out of anyone. Instead they make up rules on the fly during race weekends.:idunno:
 
nobody wants their driver parked for some nibble**** infraction or hung up in inspection before they turn a lap to qualify
 
StandOnIt said:
nobody wants their driver parked for some nibble**** infraction or hung up in inspection before they turn a lap to qualify
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That's the team's fault. If you don't want your car flagged, don't push the edge as much. (Or pay a bottom-feeder to try to sneak stuff by. If they get away with it for a couple of consecutive weeks, try it.)
 
There's LOTS of reason a car fails initial inspection, pre qualifying or pre race inspection, and they're not ALL somebody trying to cheat. Sometimes it's a mistake. Sometimes, it's just a disagreement over where the line is drawn. That's part of the reason you do these inspection, to find out where the line is drawn. Now if you are constantly showing up with something that won't pass, or you can't GET it to pass, that's another story. I was actually happy about the penalties HMS got this past weekend. Maybe those guys will get their act together and start showing up with cars that are ready to go. They shoot themselves in the foot on Friday, and spend the whole weekend trying to catch up.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
That's the team's fault. If you don't want your car flagged, don't push the edge as much. (Or pay a bottom-feeder to try to sneak stuff by. If they get away with it for a couple of consecutive weeks, try it.)
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What difference does it make whose fault it is? The object of the exercise is to get everyone who filed an entry onto the starting grid.

NASCAR cannot satisfy it's 'fan' base no matter what they do. People squealed like stuck pigs about mystery cautions and the artificial manipulation of races. "Let the race play out on its own" and on and on ad infinitum. Now that these "fans" have had their wish granted and there's a seven second difference between first and second place after 500 miles and a dozen or less cars on the lead lap, said "fans" are complaining about that.

No auto racing sanctioning body should ever pay any attention whatsoever to it's fans wishes regarding race operations. None.
 
Does anyone else think they have finally made the tolerance + or - just about impossible to pass this new laser system. I know some teams do pass on a regular basis, but, we are seeing fails from top tear teams on a regular basis.
 
rd45usa said:
So now all races are impound races?
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The ones on the new two-day schedule are. Instead of practice and qualifying on Friday, followed by two practices on Saturday, the two-day schedule features two Ps followed by Q, all on Saturday. The cars are impounded after Q.

I'm not sure how many races will be run on the two-day schedule this season. I recall last year it was three or four.
 
Spotter22 said:
They put an end to that crap of failing pre qualifying didnt they? lol.
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I think I read this wrong, I thought they were gonna scrap pre qual tech then check after. This is the way I would go and you eliminate the tire situation at the same time.
 
Spotter22 said:
I think I read this wrong, I thought they were gonna scrap pre qual tech then check after. This is the way I would go and you eliminate the tire situation at the same time.
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If you would listen to the clip, I know it cleared it up for me. They aren't going to inspect for the pre qualification, so nobody gets hung up waiting to pass. They qualify and then get inspected not only to see if they pass for qualifying but also for the race. If they fail they start in the back for the race.
 
StandOnIt said:
If you would listen to the clip, I know it cleared it up for me. They aren't going to inspect for the pre qualification, so nobody gets hung up waiting to pass. They qualify and then get inspected not only to see if they pass for qualifying but also for the race. If they fail they start in the back for the race.
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Ok, I didnt listen to it but they are doing exactly what I thought. Good deal.
 
yeah it shouldn't hang so many up for the one's who for whatever reason can't get thru tech to qualify. They qualify get inspected and go on their way if they pass.
 
StandOnIt said:
nobody wants their driver parked for some nibble**** infraction or hung up in inspection before they turn a lap to qualify
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And who cares? I don't. If Phil Neikro was toss out of a game for some nibble**** infraction of throwing a spitter you didn't see his fans get their panties in a bunch over it. They manned up and went on their way because he was caught doing something outside of the rules. They were adult enough to know that he was caught CHEATING. Under your logic all drivers should drive even if injured. The fans paid to see them.:rolleyes:

sdj said:
Does anyone else think they have finally made the tolerance + or - just about impossible to pass this new laser system. I know some teams do pass on a regular basis, but, we are seeing fails from top tear teams on a regular basis.
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Once NASCAR implemented the pass through rule in Xfinity all the teams passed. Therefore, it isn't about the tolerances that NASCAR's new system uses. It is the Teams that have been thumbing their noses at NASCAR because the penalties for doing so didn't have a big enough cost until now.
 
aunty dive said:
What difference does it make whose fault it is? The object of the exercise is to get everyone who filed an entry onto the starting grid.

NASCAR cannot satisfy it's 'fan' base no matter what they do. People squealed like stuck pigs about mystery cautions and the artificial manipulation of races. "Let the race play out on its own" and on and on ad infinitum. Now that these "fans" have had their wish granted and there's a seven second difference between first and second place after 500 miles and a dozen or less cars on the lead lap, said "fans" are complaining about that.

No auto racing sanctioning body should ever pay any attention whatsoever to it's fans wishes regarding race operations. None.
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That makes absolutely no sense, the fans pay the bills, without fans in the stands you aren't going to have Nascar. You have to cater to them for the most part, there are enough of them leaving now, lets not drive more away.
 
Mopardh9 said:
That makes absolutely no sense, the fans pay the bills, without fans in the stands you aren't going to have Nascar. You have to cater to them for the most part, there are enough of them leaving now, lets not drive more away.
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make perfectly good sense, it has already happened. Whiners are going to whine, it doesn't matter what it is, they will always find something, that is what they do.
 
@Towmater : Once NASCAR implemented the pass through rule in Xfinity all the teams passed. Therefore, it isn't about the tolerances that NASCAR's new system uses. It is the Teams that have been thumbing their noses at NASCAR because the penalties for doing so didn't have a big enough cost until now.[/QUOTE]

Are you serious here or should there be a :sarcasm:
 
sdj said:
@Towmater : Once NASCAR implemented the pass through rule in Xfinity all the teams passed. Therefore, it isn't about the tolerances that NASCAR's new system uses. It is the Teams that have been thumbing their noses at NASCAR because the penalties for doing so didn't have a big enough cost until now.
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Are you serious here or should there be a :sarcasm:[/QUOTE]
not aware of the Xfinity cars using tamper proof composite bodies this year, too busy practicing spitballs I guess.
 
rd45usa said:
So now all races are impound races?
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Found this, I'm not sure they all will be:

At Martinsville this weekend, NASCAR will not have inspection before qualifying. Instead, cars will be inspected after Saturday’s qualifying. That inspection also will serve as inspection before the race since cars will be impounded after qualifying.
If any team fails inspection, their qualifying time will be disallowed and they will start at the rear of the field for Sunday’s race at Martinsville.

Also about the rumor that cars won't be going back to R&D anymore:

Miller also addressed the issue of if NASCAR would consider no longer inspecting cars at the R&D Center a few days after the event but complete the inspection process at the track.
Twice this month, NASCAR has announced penalties that were discovered at the R&D Center three days after that particular race.
“We’re looking at a lot of different things that potentially could be something different,’’ Miller said. “We want to make sure that we’re doing a thorough job of inspecting the race cars and right now the R&D Center is our best avenue for doing that.’’
 
StandOnIt said:
Found this, I'm not sure they all will be:

At Martinsville this weekend, NASCAR will not have inspection before qualifying. Instead, cars will be inspected after Saturday’s qualifying. That inspection also will serve as inspection before the race since cars will be impounded after qualifying.
If any team fails inspection, their qualifying time will be disallowed and they will start at the rear of the field for Sunday’s race at Martinsville.

Also about the rumor that cars won't be going back to R&D anymore:

Miller also addressed the issue of if NASCAR would consider no longer inspecting cars at the R&D Center a few days after the event but complete the inspection process at the track.
Twice this month, NASCAR has announced penalties that were discovered at the R&D Center three days after that particular race.
“We’re looking at a lot of different things that potentially could be something different,’’ Miller said. “We want to make sure that we’re doing a thorough job of inspecting the race cars and right now the R&D Center is our best avenue for doing that.’’
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Just the 2 day shows so far
 
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