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boB
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First mention of North Carolina Speedway I find is a race on 10/31/65 and Curtis Turner is listed as the winner.
Whizzer
Gig'em
sorry tony b you were the first person to give the right answer, good job on the trick question. Somebody else asked this question on another board and I said ray elder and he told me I was wrong. Sombody said Jim roper and he said that was the correct answer. I tryed to tell him winston did not get involved until 1971 season so the 1st winston cup winner was ray elder, so he proceeded to argue so i gave up. [/b][/quote]
Just to set the record straight, for the second time in two weeks:
The first race run with Winston / RJ Reynolds as the sponsor of the series, was the 1971 Riverside race, which was won by Ray Elder of Caruthers, CA.
The first race won with Winston as the race sponsor was the first Talledega race of the same year which was won by Donnie Allison.
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boB
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Just talked to Buz McKim, the NASCAR archivist in Daytona.
Winston's first invovement with NASCAR was as a race sponsor of the 1971 Winston 500 at Talladega.
The first season that the Grand National Series was known as the Winston Cup Series was 1972. That is why 1972 is considered the beginning of the modern era; that was the year that the number of races was cut back from over 40 a year to less than thirty.
Richard Petty won the first Winston Cup race at Riverside, California in January of 1972.
Winston's first invovement with NASCAR was as a race sponsor of the 1971 Winston 500 at Talladega.
The first season that the Grand National Series was known as the Winston Cup Series was 1972. That is why 1972 is considered the beginning of the modern era; that was the year that the number of races was cut back from over 40 a year to less than thirty.
Richard Petty won the first Winston Cup race at Riverside, California in January of 1972.
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steveluvs3
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Well sombody needs to tell winston to change their banner that says 1971-2003 and also they need to correct Nascar.com and all the other sources of info that says winston started their title sponsorship in 1971
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boB
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Steve,
If you read both Whizzer's and my previous posts you'll find that RJR/Winston first became involved with NASCAR in the 1971 season, they sponsored a race at Talladega in 1971 and added a considerable amount of money to the Grand National point fund. Whizzer has the breakdown of the amounts and how they were distributed.
!972 was the first year the series was known as the Winston Cup Series, thus the first Winston Cup race was run at Riverside, California in January of 1972 and Richard Petty was the winner of that race.
This is the beginning of what is considered "the modern era".
I took the time to read that site that was linked in that earlier post and found quite a few errors presented as fact. As far as NASCAR.com, that site is probably the very worst place to go to find information about NASCAR. Lots of fluff, not much attention paid to actual fact. Mostly whatever they figure the fans like to hear.
That site is in no way affiliated with NASCAR, just hired to run a website by them.
If you want to find facts, Buzz McKim is the NASCAR archivist at the home office in Daytona Beach and he has the official records available to him.
For pictures, video, posters or that sort of thing, the person to contact is Nancy Kendrick at ISC.
They are both very knowledgeble and extremely helpful with reasonable requests.
It might surprise you to know that some of the folks who post on these forums were around and even involved for a lot of those early years of NASCAR. Maybe some still are?
Think about it!
If you read both Whizzer's and my previous posts you'll find that RJR/Winston first became involved with NASCAR in the 1971 season, they sponsored a race at Talladega in 1971 and added a considerable amount of money to the Grand National point fund. Whizzer has the breakdown of the amounts and how they were distributed.
!972 was the first year the series was known as the Winston Cup Series, thus the first Winston Cup race was run at Riverside, California in January of 1972 and Richard Petty was the winner of that race.
This is the beginning of what is considered "the modern era".
I took the time to read that site that was linked in that earlier post and found quite a few errors presented as fact. As far as NASCAR.com, that site is probably the very worst place to go to find information about NASCAR. Lots of fluff, not much attention paid to actual fact. Mostly whatever they figure the fans like to hear.
That site is in no way affiliated with NASCAR, just hired to run a website by them.
If you want to find facts, Buzz McKim is the NASCAR archivist at the home office in Daytona Beach and he has the official records available to him.
For pictures, video, posters or that sort of thing, the person to contact is Nancy Kendrick at ISC.
They are both very knowledgeble and extremely helpful with reasonable requests.
It might surprise you to know that some of the folks who post on these forums were around and even involved for a lot of those early years of NASCAR. Maybe some still are?
Think about it!
buckaroo
Here kitty, kitty, kitty
boB, before I stumbled onto this forum and others, I got to know a couple of people who write about NASCAR for various media groups and was invited to write a guest column on one of their web sites if I wanted to. Man, what an invite I thought. However, one of the things that I was told was that many people would read what I wrote and that if anything was not factual, I'd be called on it. We aren't in our little groups any more with the world wide web and as such, it's open to the very people we might want to write about.
Because of this very reason, I was intimidated out of writing a column. While I could do the research to make sure of my facts, it just took some of the fun out of it all. Shooting from the hip, as it were, is much more fun, but when it comes to the facts, you have to take real aim. You really hit this one on the target.
Whizzer
Gig'em
boB, is or was on the staff of two racing websites, possibly more for all I know. He writes about racing but he has been a part of the sport in different forms. From building, driving, wrenching, and doing set-ups on modifieds, sports cars, SCCA competition, open wheel and who knows what else. The guy is older than dirt, and by his own admission, bigger than Santa Claus. He has a memory like a steel trap.
Note, he does check his information by doing what he did in this situation, going directly to a NASCAR source. He better.
I'm waiting for the day when I can catch him spewing forth misinformation. He will suffer as if he had gone to hell if I catch him. I'm waiting, patiently waiting. He'll screw up, yes he will, and when he does, ...............
Note, he does check his information by doing what he did in this situation, going directly to a NASCAR source. He better.
I'm waiting for the day when I can catch him spewing forth misinformation. He will suffer as if he had gone to hell if I catch him. I'm waiting, patiently waiting. He'll screw up, yes he will, and when he does, ...............
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boB
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What's this older than dirt remark, Whizzer?
I know for a fact that you were one of the guys who convinced God that we needed dirt to race on!
Beyond that, I will refrain from making any snide remarks about your age, Sir!
and I never said that I was bigger than Santa Claus, either. Just mean, nasty, ugly, old, fat and bald headed.
Speaking of Santa Claus, I have once again this year, obtained my usual array of assorted weapons in my continuing quest to blow that jolly old fat man clean out of the sky on Christmas Eve. Sleigh, reindeer, toys and all!
In spite of the dismal failures of the past forty or fifty years, I am still determined to succeed in this effort. Memories of frostbite and frozen fingers and toes, all the aches from the assorted broken bones suffered from slipping and falling off the roof, not even the memory of being trampled by them reindeer and run over by the fat man in his sleigh, shall deter me from my task.
Along with my usual assortment of SAM and TOE guided missiles, RPG's, shotguns, rifles, handguns, knives and swords, I am negotiating with an old ninja who recently moved in down the street.
If the two of us cannot make good with the destruction of that nasty, jolly old elf on Christmas Eve this year, I guess we'll have to resort to something with MORE POWER. Maybe a couple of ICBM's with multiple nuclear warheads and an all out attack on Santa's stronghold at the North Pole?
Do you suppose I could find a couple of them on sale at a Super Wal-Mart?
I know for a fact that you were one of the guys who convinced God that we needed dirt to race on!
Beyond that, I will refrain from making any snide remarks about your age, Sir!
and I never said that I was bigger than Santa Claus, either. Just mean, nasty, ugly, old, fat and bald headed.
Speaking of Santa Claus, I have once again this year, obtained my usual array of assorted weapons in my continuing quest to blow that jolly old fat man clean out of the sky on Christmas Eve. Sleigh, reindeer, toys and all!
In spite of the dismal failures of the past forty or fifty years, I am still determined to succeed in this effort. Memories of frostbite and frozen fingers and toes, all the aches from the assorted broken bones suffered from slipping and falling off the roof, not even the memory of being trampled by them reindeer and run over by the fat man in his sleigh, shall deter me from my task.
Along with my usual assortment of SAM and TOE guided missiles, RPG's, shotguns, rifles, handguns, knives and swords, I am negotiating with an old ninja who recently moved in down the street.
If the two of us cannot make good with the destruction of that nasty, jolly old elf on Christmas Eve this year, I guess we'll have to resort to something with MORE POWER. Maybe a couple of ICBM's with multiple nuclear warheads and an all out attack on Santa's stronghold at the North Pole?
Do you suppose I could find a couple of them on sale at a Super Wal-Mart?
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Mopardh9
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Hey bob i know you are a walking encyclopedia of racing knowledge, did you own a modified back in the day and was this in the New England area? Reason i ask is because i grew up in Ma. watching all the old Modified guys, my dad was good friends with Bebe Zalinski(spelling?) who owned the M-6 and had Gene Bergin driving for him for awhile back in the late 60's. Just wondered if you knew those guys?
buckaroo
Here kitty, kitty, kitty
Mods? Do I detect some fans of northeastern modifieds? 
Twas just a few weeks ago that down here in Carolina, they had the first annual, North/South Shootout for modifieds. What a great weekend it was. I only got to attend the Saturday events, which included the big race, but got to see a couple of heat races and some other racing as well. The event was held at Concord Motorsport Park on the 1/2 mile tri-oval. I was surrounded by yankees with a terrific guy sitting next to me from Mass who had worked and been around these guys since, well boB, you probably know the guy! Anyway, as expected, the northern guys did a job on the southern boys, but our guys did us proud. It's not dirt, but the racing is great nonetheless. So, did any of you northern guys/gals attend this event? If you're a big fan of the Featherlite Mod series, this is an event that you might want to try and make next year.
Twas just a few weeks ago that down here in Carolina, they had the first annual, North/South Shootout for modifieds. What a great weekend it was. I only got to attend the Saturday events, which included the big race, but got to see a couple of heat races and some other racing as well. The event was held at Concord Motorsport Park on the 1/2 mile tri-oval. I was surrounded by yankees with a terrific guy sitting next to me from Mass who had worked and been around these guys since, well boB, you probably know the guy! Anyway, as expected, the northern guys did a job on the southern boys, but our guys did us proud. It's not dirt, but the racing is great nonetheless. So, did any of you northern guys/gals attend this event? If you're a big fan of the Featherlite Mod series, this is an event that you might want to try and make next year.
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TonyB
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How many different years did Bill France Sr promote the Daytona Beach course as being the "final" highway/beach race?
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rajflyboy
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Did Mario Andretti ever win the Daytona 500???
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rajflyboy
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I like chatting about Old time nascar stuff!
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eeff
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Mario was the 1967 Daytona 500 winner
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Happy29
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Ok, who was the only driver in the 2003 Winston Cup season to win from an official provisional starting spot? Also, name the race and track.
(Please note mechanical or engine changes that relegate one to start at the back of the field prior to the race due to violation of the 1 engine rule do not count as being provisionals.)
(Please note mechanical or engine changes that relegate one to start at the back of the field prior to the race due to violation of the 1 engine rule do not count as being provisionals.)
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24thunder
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Kurt Busch?
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Happy29
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Nope.
Clue: This driver has won the Winston All-Star race at least once.
Clue: This driver has won the Winston All-Star race at least once.
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TonyB
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Jimmie Johnson - Coke 600 - Charlotte - started 37th
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TonyB
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The answer is 5 times.
France was trying to pressure local officials into coughing up some bucks to help build DIS.
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Tommy29
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What was the last make to win a championship besides Chevy Ford Dodge or Pontiac , what year and who was the driver?
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Tommy29
Guest
What year was the last dirt track race held,where and who was the winner?
Whizzer
Gig'em
Pulling from total recall, a real trick at my stage in life, I think the last race on a dirt track was held in 1970 at the track in Raleigh, NC.
I don't recall who won. HELL, I'm not even 100% positive that was the last race on dirt, but I think it was.
I don't recall who won. HELL, I'm not even 100% positive that was the last race on dirt, but I think it was.
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24thunder
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The last dirt track race(in NASCAR) was the 1970 Home State 200 held at North Carolina State Fairgrounds in Raliegh,NC.,a .5 mile dirt track that ran 200 laps,Richard Petty won here in the final dirt race after leading 112 of the 200 total laps ran on September 30,1970 in a 1969 Plymouth,His owner/sponsor in this event was Don Robertson,Richard Petty won $6,970 in prize money that day.
btw,there were only 3 dirt races in 1970,Bobby Isaac became the 1970 Champion.
btw,there were only 3 dirt races in 1970,Bobby Isaac became the 1970 Champion.
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Tommy29
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That is correct!
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Tommy29
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Did anyone figure out the other question?
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Tommy29
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Did any figure out the other question?
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Tommy29
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That is correct!
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24thunder
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Buick was the last make,other then current makes,to win the Manufacturer's Championship in 1982 on the strength of 25 wins,Buick also won it in 1981 with 22 wins.
If Ur referring to the driver's Championship that was last won by oother than the current makes,it would be Bobby Allison driving a Buick and winning the 1983 Winston Cup Championship.
I think that covers it
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Tommy29
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You rule 24Thunder that is correct.
Whizzer
Gig'em
Ain't reference books and research websites fun ???
Okay !!! Here's one that might not be in the record or trivia books but has been documented.
boB is not entitled to answer this question. In the event boB does attempt an answer, it might be necessary to impose the final punishment.
Who know's what Ernie Irvan's nickname was ?????
Okay !!! Here's one that might not be in the record or trivia books but has been documented.
boB is not entitled to answer this question. In the event boB does attempt an answer, it might be necessary to impose the final punishment.
Who know's what Ernie Irvan's nickname was ?????
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Mopardh9
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California Kid?
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Flametamer
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Swervin Ervin.
Whizzer
Gig'em
Ya got it right.
For the second part, who gave him the name, "Swervin' Irvan" ???????
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24thunder
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Dale Earnhardt Sr.?
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Flametamer
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I believe it may have been ol' DW, but I can't remember for sure. 
Whizzer
Gig'em
Is this it ??? No more guesses ???? 24Thunder, is that a guess or are you asking me a question ??? Come on guys, give it a shot. There is an answer in "The Ultimate Stock Car Trivia Book". If this is of any assistance.
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24thunder
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both whizzer,as I'm no expert,lol,just started getting into this sport in 1998.Originally posted by Whizzer@Dec 12 2003, 11:02 AM
Is this it ??? No more guesses ???? 24Thunder, is that a guess or are you asking me a question ??? Come on guys, give it a shot. There is an answer in "The Ultimate Stock Car Trivia Book". If this is of any assistance.
I take it that My guess was wrong?oh-oh another question :lol:
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Happy29
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uh Robert Yates?
Whizzer
Gig'em
Since the guesses have thinned down considerably, the guy who gave the nick-name "Swervin' Irvan" to Ernie Irvan, was Jimmy Means. Driver, crew chief and team manager of the #52 car owned by Marsh Means and sponsored by Alka-Seltzer.