NNS at Bristol race thread

Tony1930 said:
NASCAR has a great thing going here with Kyle....tonight the fans will all be arguing about if Kyle is just a bully or can he do it against the big boys.

"He'll go from worst to first!" - "Naw man, he can't do that against the REAL competition!"

Brian France is smiling like the cat that got the canary :D
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Umm I think he has a good chance at winning tomorrow too.

He actually has a legit car so he will be top 15 within the first 100 laps. Only a numb nuts can ruin his day which could potentially happen.

When you put yourself in those kind of positions nature has a way of paying you back.
 
Well I don't want to be too cynical or anything ;) but I can imagine a scenario where the nascar marketing analysts say to Brian F..."If we could just keep the crowd that previously just came for the NNS race (when the Cup race was a sellout) around for the Cup race we would be selling out again".

And Brian would say - "If we get a hook...like a bad guy that they want to stick around and watch lose in the next race...that could do it. Plus...we can offer them cheap seats cause we will make the money off them in other ways...besides...a $15 seat beats an empty seat..right boys".

I hate to be "conspiratorial" about a sport that has always been on the up-and-up like nascar :rolleyes:...but...tonight's race was not close at all. KyBu could have lapped the field.
 
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the same argument could be used for Penske/Brad. He and Kyle were 8 seconds ahead of third
 
Lazyking said:
the same argument could be used for Penske/Brad. He and Kyle were 8 seconds ahead of third
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For us who watched the whole race (you included of course) - that would be a stretch - but yeah...you could make that argument.

Doesn't matter to me - I'm no lawman - I enjoy the entertainment.
 
The only problem I have with the cup regulars killing the kids in the lower series is that they take that race as testing session and that dont sit well with me.

Beside that it ain't fair for the actual regular nationwide drivers (Which I dont care about so moot point for me) is that the drivers who do race in the cup side take this sideshow as a means to get better for race day.

Its not just purely for racing. There is always ultirior motive.

We all know by now that Kyle and Brad are light years ahead of the NW regulars so what are they trying to prove by beating the kids?
 
Has any horse been more beaten to death than the tired and useless debate about Cup guys in NW and/or Trucks? Will there ever be a point where people just get over it and try to actually enjoy the racing? I guess the fact that there'd be no NW series without Cup guys and their sponsors is irrelevant.
 
Matthew2470 said:
Will there ever be a point where people just get over it and try to actually enjoy the racing?
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That's a good point you bring up.

I dont think a race is too enjoyable when a guy leads virtually all the laps, no contest.

We put up with it in Cup because that's the top tier league and what else are you going to do short of quitting. At least in the NW series NASCAR could do something about it.
 
Not a word was said last night when Kez and Kyle were racing even younger kids in the trucks. I laugh, some act like they are beating baby seals or something. It's ok when it is close, you don't get the whine. If Kez wasn't there to keep him honest, I am sure he would have slowed down to keep the save the baby seal beaters happy. glad this place wasn't around when D.W. won seven in a row at Bristol.
 
bout time fer kyle ta concentrate on a cup title.
think he's made his point in nns/trucks !

stinky show tonite !
 
mike honcho said:
When 42 cars come in and put on 4 tires and not 1 of those cars can challenge the lone car that was on what 70 lap old tires???There is a problem.
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Yes, and it's one of the biggest problems in Nascar, that and the Areo push. Yeah, some tire wear does happen at some tracks but it's not as bad as it should be.. in most cases, the tire doesn't wear, it just pops because the cars are going so fast on a hard tire.

Now, I don't want Nascar like F1 where they only can go hard for five laps but it's gotten to the point where tire management and pit calls are actually minimized aspect of the sport. Sure, you have battle for track position but at most tracks, taking two tires, getting out front will be all you need even if everyone else takes 4.
 
Tony1930 said:
Well I don't want to be too cynical or anything ;) but I can imagine a scenario where the nascar marketing analysts say to Brian F..."If we could just keep the crowd that previously just came for the NNS race (when the Cup race was a sellout) around for the Cup race we would be selling out again".

And Brian would say - "If we get a hook...like a bad guy that they want to stick around and watch lose in the next race...that could do it. Plus...we can offer them cheap seats cause we will make the money off them in other ways...besides...a $15 seat beats an empty seat..right boys".

I hate to be "conspiratorial" about a sport that has always been on the up-and-up like nascar :rolleyes:...but...tonight's race was not close at all. KyBu could have lapped the field.
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Saw highlights or low lights when I got home from work and I would say France probably wasn't happy about Kyle dominating. As for the Cup race tonight, if Kyle stinks the joint out with a huge win, Nascar will find some villain to over expose and create some controversy.
 
reck said:
That's a good point you bring up.

I dont think a race is too enjoyable when a guy leads virtually all the laps, no contest.

We put up with it in Cup because that's the top tier league and what else are you going to do short of quitting. At least in the NW series NASCAR could do something about it.
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Blowouts happen in every sport. Some teams are better. It's up to the competition to improve.
 
could have lapped the whole field? All that takes distance wise is the length of a straight a way on a 1.5. miler. It is only a half a mile to do that at Bristol. Some guys were 4 laps down which is 2 miles behind the leader. that would have been a lucky dog spot barely a lap down and a straight a way, on a 1.5 miler. That is short track racing, not bad competition. A little off and you are a lap down and right now. Typical fans not only want bumper to bumper in a half mile for the whole race, got to have tire fall off plenty of passing..leaders passed all but ten cars..more then once but that doesn't count..it has to be for the lead back an forth while THEN passing the whole field at the same time. I get it. ....now, if we can just get some sparks shooting out of their?
 
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StandOnIt said:
could have lapped the whole field? All that takes distance wise is the length of a straight a way on a 1.5. miler. It is only a half a mile to do that at Bristol. Some guys were 4 laps down which is 2 miles behind the leader. that would have been a lucky dog spot barely a lap down and a straight a way, on a 1.5 miler. That is short track racing, not bad competition. A little off and you are a lap down and right now. Typical fans not only want bumper to bumper in a half mile for the whole race, got to have tire fall off plenty of passing..leaders passed all but ten cars..more then once but that doesn't count..it has to be for the lead back an forth while THEN passing the whole field at the same time. I get it. ....now, if we can just get some sparks shooting out of their?
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Right , the entire point of live sporting events is that they are not scripted . Nobody can say who will win , how , or by how much . That's what make sports so great . In Nascar , at any given race , one driver can lap the field or he can win by a bumper , either way , I'm going to watch. Everyone will complain that nobody could pass the leader because of areo push , but nobody notices that the leader got to the front by passing all the other cars .
 
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