Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
I guess I'm the only person who thinks this is a good idea.
No more driver to driver communications starting 2012
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fastfordfan
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I love it
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
Same here, I've always believed the only people you should be able to talk to during a race is your CC.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
and spotter?
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
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fastfordfan
Guest
Plus I don't think that fans should be allowed to monitor radio chat.
It only causes Bull chit like we have with fans *****ing about the way a driver talks to his cc. If the cc is willing to listen to that then so be it. It's NONE of by business.
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FlFlash
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Drivers for various teams have had the ability to switch over to a team mates channel for A Very long time. Driver to Driver communication is nothing new. What is new is that teams have are useing it to communicate to drivers on Other teams.
I don't have a problem with it and I see it as more of a SAFETY FACTOR than any type of Performance Advantage.
I don't have a problem with it and I see it as more of a SAFETY FACTOR than any type of Performance Advantage.
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fastfordfan
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With NASCAR tinkering with car silhouettes and restrictor plates as planning continues for the opening of the 2012 Sprint Cup season, there is the anticipation that the tandem drafting that has dominated – discolored, many say – recent races at Daytona International Speedway and Talladega Superspeedway will be tempered significantly in time for the Feb. 26 Daytona 500.
In recent Daytona tests – scheduled specifically to deal with the double-drafting problem, NASCAR officials tried several methods, including smaller rear spoilers and bigger restrictor plates, in attempts to devise ways to break up the two-car drafts and return Daytona/Talladega racing to the big drafting packs fans generally prefer.
In addition, NASCAR has told teams that they will not be able to communicate with other drivers or spotters, making it much harder for two drivers to team up.
NASCAR is developing a new aero/engine package for teams to run when they return to Daytona for preseason testing Jan. 12-14. What happens during those three days – and the possible additional changes NASCAR makes in response – will likely set the tone for the 500 and the ancillary races leading to it.
Will the changes have a big impact?
“The fans having the race they want to have is a very high priority for all of us, so I understand why the effort is there to try to separate the cars,” Jimmie Johnson said. “But I don’t know how they’re going to do it unless they make some radical changes to the vehicles. Changing bumpers, maybe, or something in that area because it’s so easy to run flat around those tracks with the new asphalt that’s there. We’ll be doing that for a long time.
“NASCAR is kind of stuck in a corner because they wanted a car they could take anywhere. It’s turned out to work against us on the plate tracks.”
NASCAR chairman Brian France stated emphatically during Homestead finale week that the sanctioning body prefers traditional Daytona/Talladega racing over the current style and indicated that everything within reason would be done in the weeks leading to the Daytona opener to promote change. And Daytona track president Joie Chitwood is promoting the idea after hearing complaint after complaint from spectators at the track.
Drivers generally have mixed emotions about tandem drafting, but all generally say there’s no real alternative to it using the current rules package. It’s the fastest way around the two tracks, so it’s the method that’s used.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. has been one of the garage area’s most vocal drivers in opposition to the two-car drafts. He participated in the Daytona tests.
“We learned a good bit there,” he said. “I think we made a small, small gain in the overall grand scheme of things. But the work has to be done. We all sort of worked together all day long, and it was a great experience.
“I love what I read from Brian and his comments. He spoke about how he wished to go back into the pack-style racing that the fans seem to enjoy and I think is a lot of fun.”
Johnson said he has accepted the new style but understands fans’ reluctance to embrace it.
“I don’t mind it,” he said. “There’s a chance to pass, and there is some technique involved to keep the cars together during the race. I don’t have a problem with it.”
As for Brad Keselowski, he isn’t much into debating the pros and cons of the situation.
“Hell, I don’t care,” he said. “Just create a set of rules, and we’ll go out there and race the hell out of them.”
http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cup-will-nascar-changes-tank-talladega-daytona-tandem-drafting/
In recent Daytona tests – scheduled specifically to deal with the double-drafting problem, NASCAR officials tried several methods, including smaller rear spoilers and bigger restrictor plates, in attempts to devise ways to break up the two-car drafts and return Daytona/Talladega racing to the big drafting packs fans generally prefer.
In addition, NASCAR has told teams that they will not be able to communicate with other drivers or spotters, making it much harder for two drivers to team up.
NASCAR is developing a new aero/engine package for teams to run when they return to Daytona for preseason testing Jan. 12-14. What happens during those three days – and the possible additional changes NASCAR makes in response – will likely set the tone for the 500 and the ancillary races leading to it.
Will the changes have a big impact?
“The fans having the race they want to have is a very high priority for all of us, so I understand why the effort is there to try to separate the cars,” Jimmie Johnson said. “But I don’t know how they’re going to do it unless they make some radical changes to the vehicles. Changing bumpers, maybe, or something in that area because it’s so easy to run flat around those tracks with the new asphalt that’s there. We’ll be doing that for a long time.
“NASCAR is kind of stuck in a corner because they wanted a car they could take anywhere. It’s turned out to work against us on the plate tracks.”
NASCAR chairman Brian France stated emphatically during Homestead finale week that the sanctioning body prefers traditional Daytona/Talladega racing over the current style and indicated that everything within reason would be done in the weeks leading to the Daytona opener to promote change. And Daytona track president Joie Chitwood is promoting the idea after hearing complaint after complaint from spectators at the track.
Drivers generally have mixed emotions about tandem drafting, but all generally say there’s no real alternative to it using the current rules package. It’s the fastest way around the two tracks, so it’s the method that’s used.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. has been one of the garage area’s most vocal drivers in opposition to the two-car drafts. He participated in the Daytona tests.
“We learned a good bit there,” he said. “I think we made a small, small gain in the overall grand scheme of things. But the work has to be done. We all sort of worked together all day long, and it was a great experience.
“I love what I read from Brian and his comments. He spoke about how he wished to go back into the pack-style racing that the fans seem to enjoy and I think is a lot of fun.”
Johnson said he has accepted the new style but understands fans’ reluctance to embrace it.
“I don’t mind it,” he said. “There’s a chance to pass, and there is some technique involved to keep the cars together during the race. I don’t have a problem with it.”
As for Brad Keselowski, he isn’t much into debating the pros and cons of the situation.
“Hell, I don’t care,” he said. “Just create a set of rules, and we’ll go out there and race the hell out of them.”
http://nascar.speedtv.com/article/cup-will-nascar-changes-tank-talladega-daytona-tandem-drafting/
Tennessee Racing
Formerly Stewart Fan
Keselowski doesn't care, he just wants to race
dpkimmel2001
Team Owner
That's one of the things that I enjoy the most about attending a race or when I listen to Trackpass @ home while watching. Personally, I'd hate to see that eliminated.
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robbybee
Guest
Keselowski doesn't care, he just wants to race
I love that attitude! I used to think Kez was just another spoiled brat but the more I listen to him and learn about him, the better I like him.
Take off the effing restrictors, put bowling ball rubber on all four corners and let's see who has the biggest huevos. (Sorry, Danica, you're out!)
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Drivers with Old school attitude.
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robbybee
Guest
I agree with most of them.
Not so sure that Matt, Biff or Joonyer qualify (hard to be Old School on Dale's salary) and I don't know about Stenhouse, yet.
Nice link, FB!
Not so sure that Matt, Biff or Joonyer qualify (hard to be Old School on Dale's salary) and I don't know about Stenhouse, yet.
Nice link, FB!
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Thank you robby. I think Jr made it for his have fun attitude, and Biffle for his ability to flat out drive a car sideways. Not sure how Matt got in there, but I guess he's a lot like Jarrett and Elliot.
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FlFlash
Guest
Neat list,
I'd equate Kenseth with David Pearson just by his driving style and Biffle with a "Looosen her Up" Tim Richmond.
Butt Jr he's kind of a blend of them all.
Stenhouse is a drivers driver watch him he'll be something if he dosent get messed over.
At first I thought Robbie Gordon did'nt belong butt after thinking for a minute yeah there was some assholes too.
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robbybee
Guest
It is fun to watch Biffle when he's got a good car, that's fersure!
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Where's Kurt ?Was he missed ?
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#17D500winner
Guest
One woman's opinion and IMO, that list is a joke - with a couple of exceptions.
No offense to you personally.
Bucky Badger
Go Kyle Go
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
I accidently linked to the second page. If you flip one page back, here criteria makes sense in todays reality. Speak your mind, I didn't take offense at all.