Oh...BTW...Your Fired

MAGICMILER said:
Don't forget ....Kurt is the new Ricky Bobby..... And one of the firesuits said "Me". Pretty much sums it all up doesn't it?...
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Well yeah. Without Kurt FRR would be lucky to qualify in the top 25 each race. Kurt gave them new life & Kurt had the utmost respect for his team & owners. Every athlete is ****y - you have to be to fuel confidence. Athletes like Kurt are nothing new, it's just the media that NEED A STORY and turn him into mr. Hyde.
 
Allenbaba said:
This thread is a joke, right?
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If you're asking about the crew change, there are 4 members being replaced by guys from RCR's NWS program but they're not all from the #2 team.

If it's people's opinions, you're on your own :)
 
ChexOrWrex said:
So you still have a job?
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Job? Yes. I'm not on the crew. Money? No. The casino wiped me out. Hangover? Yes, casino took care of that as well. Fun night, though.

Kurt's wanted a new crew since the All Star race. If this decision were his alone, it would have happened long ago. But what happened this weekend was the result of several people deciding a change needed to be made. Thinking Kurt just rolled in and started firing people is hysterical. Almost as funny as me changing a tire.

Guys, this is a professional sports team at the highest level - not some children's soccer team. There is no reward for effort. Only results. Everyone here knows the deal. Go read ANY article, blog, post, interview etc written before the Chase about the 78's chances to win a championship, and every single one mentions having to overcome a slow pit crew. Every. Single. One. So how can this move upset or surprise anyone? The bottom line is we're already 40 points out after two races. We need wins. Top 3's at the very least. P7 won't cut it anymore. It's time to put all the chips in and see what happens.
 
I don't see anything wrong with replacing the team. Like others have said, it's just too late at this point it should have happened weeks ago. It's the nature of the sport, you don't get to screw up very often and still have another chance at it. It's a cut throat sport for these guys and you're only as good as your last pit stop.
 
Allenbaba said:
Job? Yes. I'm not on the crew. Money? No. The casino wiped me out. Hangover? Yes, casino took care of that as well. Fun night, though.

Kurt's wanted a new crew since the All Star race. If this decision were his alone, it would have happened long ago. But what happened this weekend was the result of several people deciding a change needed to be made. Thinking Kurt just rolled in and started firing people is hysterical. Almost as funny as me changing a tire.

Guys, this is a professional sports team at the highest level - not some children's soccer team. There is no reward for effort. Only results. Everyone here knows the deal. Go read ANY article, blog, post, interview etc written before the Chase about the 78's chances to win a championship, and every single one mentions having to overcome a slow pit crew. Every. Single. One. So how can this move upset or surprise anyone? The bottom line is we're already 40 points out after two races. We need wins. Top 3's at the very least. P7 won't cut it anymore. It's time to put all the chips in and see what happens.
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Casinos seem to have a habbit of doing that. I seem to have the same problem when I'm in them. I always come out with less then I went in with. Are you in marketing or public relations, and if so, do you do any other other racing series?
 
Allenbaba said:
This thread is a joke, right?
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Well, lets see.
This is a nascar message board. Sometimes when things happen in nascar, people come here, start threads about it, and give their opinions on what happened. So to answer your question I'd say no, this thread is not a joke.

You being a tire changer for the 78 team was not a joke either, but just an honest mistake.

So what do you do with the 78 team, besides expect nascar fans to give 'unconditional' support to them and nascar?
 
Mr. Gregory said:
Wow, really? I mean, I understand why they made this change, but the timing could not have been worse. I could see it if Kurt had planned to stay at FRR, but as reck said, with him leaving at the end of the season and the fact that we're already 3 races into the Chase, it makes no sense. Too little, too late. Granted, I was one of the ones that said that Kurt needed a better pit crew if he was going to stay at FRR, and I'm not gonna backpedal from that now, but obviously on a human level, I feel for those guys.

And I didn't know Allenbaba was on the 78 pit crew. I thought he was the PR guy or something. Regardless, yeah, I would love to hear his take on all this.
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Should of been done weeks ago, but guess better late than never. Way I see it is the 78 wants a win before the season is over and this is their best chance to get one, most likely by improving their pits stops. They run good, but seems something always happens in the pits, I applaud the move. Giving the 78 a better chance for a win this season will only improve their exposure as a legitimate team power and help them attract a good driver for next season!
 
gordonite said:
Well, lets see.
This is a nascar message board. Sometimes when things happen in nascar, people come here, start threads about it, and give their opinions on what happened. So to answer your question I'd say no, this thread is not a joke.

You being a tire changer for the 78 team was not a joke either, but just an honest mistake.

So what do you do with the 78 team, besides expect nascar fans to give 'unconditional' support to them and nascar?
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Don't get yor feelings hurt, gordonite, he is not putting down any of us or the thread, it's just that when someone is on the inside and knows the real truth about a situation like he does, and then they go on a forum and read all the different crap that gets threw on the wall just to see if it sticks...can make a thread look like a little bit of a joke to them. I personally enjoy and respect the feed back from someone on the inside that actually knows what is really going on with the teams.
 
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I'm surprises that Allen takes the time to read these comments . I think the average age of most of us is about twelve.
 
gordonite said:
Well, lets see.
This is a nascar message board. Sometimes when things happen in nascar, people come here, start threads about it, and give their opinions on what happened. So to answer your question I'd say no, this thread is not a joke.

You being a tire changer for the 78 team was not a joke either, but just an honest mistake.

So what do you do with the 78 team, besides expect nascar fans to give 'unconditional' support to them and nascar?
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Kurt calls him Dr. Phil. :D
 
Sooooooo... Any bold predictions.......New crew is better ?....Worse.....Same.....or Kurt provides for his own demise with a pit road penalty......
 
Allenbaba said:
Job? Yes. I'm not on the crew. Money? No. The casino wiped me out. Hangover? Yes, casino took care of that as well. Fun night, though.

Kurt's wanted a new crew since the All Star race. If this decision were his alone, it would have happened long ago. But what happened this weekend was the result of several people deciding a change needed to be made. Thinking Kurt just rolled in and started firing people is hysterical. Almost as funny as me changing a tire.

Guys, this is a professional sports team at the highest level - not some children's soccer team. There is no reward for effort. Only results. Everyone here knows the deal. Go read ANY article, blog, post, interview etc written before the Chase about the 78's chances to win a championship, and every single one mentions having to overcome a slow pit crew. Every. Single. One. So how can this move upset or surprise anyone? The bottom line is we're already 40 points out after two races. We need wins. Top 3's at the very least. P7 won't cut it anymore. It's time to put all the chips in and see what happens.
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Damn, you're pretty good. :D
 
3wideinturn1 said:
I don't see anything wrong with replacing the team. Like others have said, it's just too late at this point it should have happened weeks ago. It's the nature of the sport, you don't get to screw up very often and still have another chance at it. It's a cut throat sport for these guys and you're only as good as your last pit stop.
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But when a multi-car team gets caught blatantly cheating, half the forum cries because the sponsors might have a conscience and pull their support.

Like a wind sock.
 
Nitro Dude said:
Don't get yor feelings hurt, gordonite, he is not putting down any of us or the thread, it's just that when someone is on the inside and knows the real truth about a situation like he does, and then they go on a forum and read all the different crap that gets threw on the wall just to see if it sticks...can make a thread look like a little bit of a joke to them. I personally enjoy and respect the feed back from someone on the inside that actually knows what is really going on with the teams.
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lol ok, perhaps my post was a little harsh.

No hard feelings Allenbaba.
 
Good call Kurt. New crew did so great you had to reward them with a 3 lap down run. Way to go.
 
If SHR is building for a new team next year (Kurt's) where do they recruit for his new pit crew? Within the cup garage, NNS, or a buncha newbies?
 
A little followup to the #78's day.....

Not a good showing for the changed #78 pit crew at Dover

Sunday at Dover did not go the way the #78 pit crew was hoping. Like we reported yesterday, 5 out of 6 Crewmen were replaced for the remainder of the Chase and Dover was their first race as a new team. The first stop of the race went pretty good but then on the second stop of the race the team had a loose right rear tire. The second stop of the race was under green flag conditions and when Busch reported that he had a loose wheel the team had to come back down and pit around lap 156. Pitting under green is costly at a short track and it ultimately put Busch two laps down and in 26th position.

“A loose wheel did us in,” said Busch, who qualified ninth. “We were way off at the start, but after the first pit stop we made some good changes to the car and started to make a move. But once again we had an issue with a loose wheel and that put us a couple of laps down. And with the lack of cautions we couldn’t make it up.”

Once the team realized that their was a loose wheel, the ensuing pit stop was not quick either. When the #78 came back down pit road to fix the loose wheel they had to bring a spacer out to put over the studs. Whenever there is a loose wheel on a race car the vibrations that it puts on the studs cause the threads to junk up. By adding a 1/4 inch spacer it enables the nuts to be pushed out farther on the studs, away from the bad threads. It also allows for the nuts to have better threads deeper on the studs for the nuts to grab onto. Needless to say, by doing this your pit stop is going to be around 20 seconds, and the #78 team had just that. So add in a loose wheel under green and then doing a 20 second stop under green, and you have the perfect storm to finish 3 laps down.

A little note to anyone who thinks you can make a great pit crew over night. It can happen but more than likely Chemistry plays a bigger role than most think. Asking 5 new guys to come onto a team and pit a Chase running driver with 8 races to go is a big task. All those Crewmen are good at what they do but putting them into this situation is almost certain for failure. It will be interesting to see how the next few races play out for #78 team and its pit crew. Good luck to all involved.

from here
 
SuperTex14 said:
But when a multi-car team gets caught blatantly cheating, half the forum cries because the sponsors might have a conscience and pull their support.

Like a wind sock.
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People post to suit their purpose. There is hardly any question that the crew was replaced due to Kurt's complaints.
and for being on the inside, I believe there are some forum members that actually do have close contact with certain big name drivers/teams but don't broadcast it.
 
reck said:
So much for people here saying he's such a teddy bear. bull****.

His crew had been a problem all year long and he suddenly now realizes, 3 races into the chase that they need to be replace? Scumbag.

Kurt is gone after this year so why even bother to make the change this late? He's not going to win the chase so this change is now pointless. This really pisses me off.
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short memory???

Jimmie Johnson Swaps Pit Crews with Jeff Gordon to Improve Championship Chances
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http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...h-jeff-gordon-to-improve-championship-chances
 
Bucky Badger said:
short memory???
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reck said:
A justifiable change this late is only good if you're second, or third in the standings while having a healthy shot at the cup. Kurt got neither.
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Nope, just calling it like I see it.

Chad made the swap while in second place in the standing and having a chance. And hey, what do you know? It paid off, they won it all.
 
reck said:
Nope, just calling it like I see it.

Chad made the swap while in second place in the standing and having a chance. And hey, what do you know? It paid off, they won it all.
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Calling it as you see it!!! The 78 still has 7 races to try to win this year..
 
ted@economy said:
What ? I don't know it ! Nobody told me . Did I miss a meetin or somethin? Kurt's not going to win ?
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Well seem as how even the drivers know they have no chance when they fall 40+ points behind the leaders who are winning every week, They as well as the viewers know they're done. Its a fact.

Kurt is not going to outrun Jimmie, Kyle and Matt and suddenly win 5 races. Hell he can win as much and still not win it.

Reality is a rare word around these parts.
 
reck said:
Nope, just calling it like I see it.

Chad made the swap while in second place in the standing and having a chance. And hey, what do you know? It paid off, they won it all.
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Chad also didn't fire the entire crew that helped get them into the chase. He only switched crews with the 24 team.
 
I don't think that there is any question that the 78 team is striving to make their team better for next year . If they can make gains in this year's chase , that would be great too.
 
lisa_c said:
At least, Kurt's trying and not giving up.
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If Kurt can contain his emotions and stay focused next year at SHR, he could easily have a season like Kenseth has had this year.
He's going to have some of the best equipment in the Cup series under him at SHR.

Bold prediction material right there.
 
gordonite said:
If Kurt can contain his emotions and stay focused next year at SHR, he could easily have a season like Kenseth has had this year.
He's going to have some of the best equipment in the Cup series under him at SHR.

Bold prediction material right there.
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I like Kurt, but even I'd never say that:D
 
gordonite said:
If Kurt can contain his emotions and stay focused next year at SHR, he could easily have a season like Kenseth has had this year.
He's going to have some of the best equipment in the Cup series under him at SHR.

Bold prediction material right there.
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Both drivers already have a Championship. I don't know how much better a season gets than that.
 
Bucky Badger said:
I like Kurt, but even I'd never say that:D
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Neither would I . He has no crew chief , no crew and no shop . Even in the top notch equipment that Mark Martin is driving , I don't see him making the chase . I don't care how good Kurt is , he can't walk on water.
 
ted@economy said:
Neither would I . He has no crew chief , no crew and no shop . Even in the top notch equipment that Mark Martin is driving , I don't see him making the chase . I don't care how good Kurt is , he can't walk on water.
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Isn't that what he did this year? He's probably 1 of 2 or 3 drivers who would have made the chase in that 78.
 
FenderBumper said:
Isn't that what he did this year? He's probably 1 of 2 or 3 drivers who would have made the chase in that 78.
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this year, but next year he will be a big dog. Next years ride already has him reverting back to the old Kurt..
 
FenderBumper said:
Isn't that what he did this year? He's probably 1 of 2 or 3 drivers who would have made the chase in that 78.
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I can't disagree that he did an amazing job this year. He did have an established RCR ride ,a passable team ,something to prove ,and a great crew chief . I think he starts next year with a lot less . Time will tell .
 
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