once again dale jr makes less than 2nd place

I agree. but I find a bigger problem being jimmie finishing 39th and only 10 others earned a bigger paycheck.
 
I am sure that because of this Junior is now having "Pork n Beans" for his victory dinner...
 
just pointing out that once again dale jr won less than the 2nd place guy. its the only time I have seen a winner make less than a 2nd place finisher. heck if the win paid nothing I am sure the win means more than winning 200 grand. thats not the point. the point is the purse payouts are pretty darn crazy when something like this happens. someone mentioned last time how only 2 drivers from each organization can be in the winners circle. Its interesting to look at the payouts and see which drivers certain teams have selected. it looks like KB and kenseth are it for gibbs, no on hamlin. stewart and harvick are it for SHR. The intersting one is it looks like austin dillon and paul menard is it for RCR, no on newman which is a bit of a surprise. I wonder if it ever causes tension on a team as to which drivers the organization selects for this. They do get paid on a % of the purse. It looks to me on a typical race its the difference between about 20 grand a race. So for the driver this means about 10k more in pay per race if they are the one selected by the team.
 
Yeah, it's a little strange, but I doubt that Junior will be losing any sleep over it. #endorsements
 
just pointing out that once again dale jr won less than the 2nd place guy. its the only time I have seen a winner make less than a 2nd place finisher. heck if the win paid nothing I am sure the win means more than winning 200 grand. thats not the point. the point is the purse payouts are pretty darn crazy when something like this happens. someone mentioned last time how only 2 drivers from each organization can be in the winners circle. Its interesting to look at the payouts and see which drivers certain teams have selected. it looks like KB and kenseth are it for gibbs, no on hamlin. stewart and harvick are it for SHR. The intersting one is it looks like austin dillon and paul menard is it for RCR, no on newman which is a bit of a surprise. I wonder if it ever causes tension on a team as to which drivers the organization selects for this. They do get paid on a % of the purse. It looks to me on a typical race its the difference between about 20 grand a race. So for the driver this means about 10k more in pay per race if they are the one selected by the team.
They withheld money from Denny and gave it to Matt's team since Denny tore up their car.
 
Nascar has used that method since the beginning . it came out of making sure the best drivers showed up for each race . That , in turn , brought out the fans . But wait ... Neaveau fannes don't like it . It must need to be changed . Oh Lord ! Just explain how it is hurting the fans . I don't get it .
 
it's tragic, how underpaid these drivers are, and so unfair..We should start a fund to make it fair for all of them...High desert, start a seed fund will you, the rest of us will help out I am sure.
 
its funny how everyone defaults to how much money these guys get paid. They are paid what the market will pay them. should they be forced to give it to other people?? you know spread the wealth around?? to the victor goes the spoils, and I say the victor should always get paid more than the guy they beat. I don't car if these guys were making 10 times the money they make. its a free country and a free market at least for now.
 
its funny how everyone defaults to how much money these guys get paid. They are paid what the market will pay them. should they be forced to give it to other people?? you know spread the wealth around?? to the victor goes the spoils, and I say the victor should always get paid more than the guy they beat. I don't car if these guys were making 10 times the money they make. its a free country and a free market at least for now.

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You seem to have covered all the bases with that one. Maybe not. I can't be sure.
 
Race payouts have to do with what contingency logos the drivers car is carrying. If you dont know, the contingency logos are the ones in front of the car number under where the rear view mirror would be. These are the logos of various in race sponsors, for example back then you had True Value Hard Charger award but if your car didn't carry a True Value sticker, you didn't get paid for it. Heres an example, back in the early 90s when Rusty first started driving the #2 Miller Genuine Draft car for Roger Penske, his car barely had any contingency logos on it because that's how Miller Brewing wanted it. Because of that, whenever Rusty won a race, 2nd and sometimes even third got more than he did. Made sense to me, you wanna be paid, you gotta represent. Jr's car must be missing some important contingency decals because his primary sponsor either didn't want that because of the paint scheme layout, or they have some kind of other conflict. Doesn't matter, Jr's making enough cash outside the car to more than cover whatever lost on track.
 
You are splitting hairs over $12,793?, really? looking at the congentgancys for each car, it could very well be a case of contingency money making that difference.
Kevin Harvick might of earned $12k more the Jr., but Jr got a trophy.

Dale Jrs contingency (not counting Sprint and Sunoco)
Coorslight

Edelbrook

Jeggs

3M

Duralast

Mechanics Wear

HolleyEFI

Freescale

Moog

Mahle

Comp Arms

Harvicks list( please note that Kevins car does not run with the Coorslight decal, meaning he does not take part in that program)


Autometer

Jeggs

Lincoln Electric

Edelbrock

Flowmaster

Mechanics Wear

Freeescale

Duralast

K&N Filters

HolleyEFI

3M

Moog

Mahle

Comp Arms
 
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its funny how everyone defaults to how much money these guys get paid. They are paid what the market will pay them. should they be forced to give it to other people?? you know spread the wealth around?? to the victor goes the spoils, and I say the victor should always get paid more than the guy they beat. I don't car if these guys were making 10 times the money they make. its a free country and a free market at least for now.
In that case, shouldn't Johnson be ahead of Earnhardt in wealth?
 
In that case, shouldn't Johnson be ahead of Earnhardt in wealth?
no because the free market pays jr more for his star power. The free market determines for example that their name on his car is worth more to them in cost return than it would be to sponsor jimmie johnson. The fans decide to buy more jr stuff than jimmie stuff basically. OR maybe a company is just a fan of dale jr and they want on his car because, they like him better. All that costs money and dale jr and rick hendrick simply charge what the market will bear.

dale jr's other win came from daytona which is an animal unto itself with a huge purse payout. dale jr as the winner got paid about 45% more than second place. It will be interesting if he wins another race and look at the payout. looking back kurt busch did win nearly 40 grand less than second place JJ at martinsville. The difference to me looks less about contingency stickers and more about who is an who isn't in the winners circle program on a given team. So the next question is should nascar change its payout to the race winner?? after all isn't the program called winners circle and shouldn't the guy who WON the race benefit from it?? I feel the race win should never pay less money and I don't care if someone shoes up in a blank white car with nothing on it but a number and the nascar required stickers, which are basically goodyear and nascar and wins the race. I also fee that the program has run its course and is actually hurting in particular small teams. If more money was moved out of this and put say in place finishes of 35th to 25th it would mean a team could run a whole race and make enough money finishing 28th to pay their tire bill. Why do that when 40th to them pays the same as 28th?? Further look at what is happening to the program as it is. the big name teams are simply putting only the drivers in that they feel are more likely going to win the most races. It doesn't have any factor on if they show up to run all the races or not. is kurt busch, dale jr, hamlin, or kahne who are not in the program going to fail to show up and run the whole year??

another interesting tidbit, looking back at kasey kahne's wins last year his win at bristol he made less money than second place kyle busch who appears to be in the program. however he still made more money for his pocono win over jeff gordon last year, gordon was in KK was not. so its pretty common for second place to make less if the winner involves certain drivers.
 
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