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Zerkfitting

Zerkfitting

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One bad race in the Chase and you are out. In previous versions of the Chase this was true and I think it is mostly true for the current version. A win can move a driver to the next round. And even advancing based on a win a driver will still have a low ranking and would stay on the bubble until eliminated or winning again. A driver getting a win in each round is unlikely but it would be impressive if it could be done (and worthy of a championship).

With the emphasis on winning this season I think consistency will prevail (e.g. Kenseth).
 
Not a lot of engine failures this year so far, wonder how many teams will push the limits in the chase ?
 
That's one thing I liked about the old Chase, it had kind of a college football vibe to it: one bad day would hurt you but not totally sink you, but two bad days and you were pretty much done. In the new Chase format, you can have 6 bad days and still win the championship.
 
Marcingak said:
If you have one bad race and get a win you will still advance to the next round.
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Exactly. I think Dale Jarrett started this thread. He seems to think this system is less forgiving of mistakes than the old system. In theory, you can wreck out of 6 races on the first lap and still make it to the final 4 in this system.
 
In theory, that can happen, but reality and statistics show that it isn't that easy to win a race when you need too. They aren't the only cars on the track either, there are win less cars running that are due for a win.
 
#17D500winner said:
2 43rds and 1st will get you to the next round.
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Yep...And this is what you get when Uneducated Drunk Rednecks come up with a plan on the back of a bar napkin...I hope this chase format implodes right in NASCRAPS face..........
 
MELROSEMAFIA said:
Yep...And this is what you get when Uneducated Drunk Rednecks come up with a plan on the back of a bar napkin...I hope this chase format implodes right in NASCRAPS face..........
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The new Chase rules would never fit on a bar napkin. ;)

But I do also hope it implodes. I guess I should reserve judgement, but we've known about the new format for 8 months now and I dislike it just as much now as I did when it was introduced.
 
Kyle18fan said:
Not a lot of engine failures this year so far, wonder how many teams will push the limits in the chase ?
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If they were going to do that, it would be smarter to "test" it during regular season with a driver that's locked in. I'm sure there were some guinea pigs this year though.
 
No, not really "mostly true" for the current version.

As people have pointed out here already. You can finish 43rd in the first two races and win the third and you'd move on.

Its pretty crazy that points still dont matter much IN THE CHASE. At least with previous versions of it, at least points counted from the last 10 races.
 
I think points racing and riding around will prevail in the Chase, especially in the first two rounds. Sure, you could theoretically DNF twice and win once per round and make it to Homestead but even the winningest driver thus far has averaged 6.5 starts per win. I wouldn't bank on being able to come back from a wreck or mechanical failure even if I'm a Keselowski or Gordon type.
 
FLRacingFan said:
I think points racing and riding around will prevail in the Chase, especially in the first two rounds. Sure, you could theoretically DNF twice and win once per round and make it to Homestead but even the winningest driver thus far has averaged 6.5 starts per win. I wouldn't bank on being able to come back from a wreck or mechanical failure even if I'm a Keselowski or Gordon type.
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thinkin big dogs will all go w/ top 15 strategy tomorrow....thru rd 1....unless ****e happens.
round 2 ........game on... for kansas or charlotte win. who wants ta put ya hopes on dega ?
 
Zerkfitting said:
One bad race in the Chase and you are out. In previous versions of the Chase this was true and I think it is mostly true for the current version. A win can move a driver to the next round. And even advancing based on a win a driver will still have a low ranking and would stay on the bubble until eliminated or winning again. A driver getting a win in each round is unlikely but it would be impressive if it could be done (and worthy of a championship).

With the emphasis on winning this season I think consistency will prevail (e.g. Kenseth).
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Earnhardt Jr. finished 35th in this first Chase race last year. Run Jr's finishes last season during the Chase under the current rules and you'd find out that he would be the defending champion this year even without scoring a victory. One bad race doesn't take you out of this unless it's at Homestead.

Points are reset after each elimination race. There are no bonus points for wins other than leading into Chicago. Everyone remaining in the Chase for the first race of the next elimination races start at equal point totals.
 
Points are reset after each elimination race. There are no bonus points for wins other than leading into Chicago. Everyone remaining in the Chase for the first race of the next elimination races start at equal point totals.
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I didn't know they reset the points. That makes more sense.
 
hawg dawg said:
where is johali w/ vegas odds on that ?

all ya anti chase fellers oughta load up on that bet !
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Nah, these and the straight odds for the championship are all they offer, I checked with my friend. :D

Different NASCAR Betting Opportunities
There are generally three different bets a gambler can make on any given NASCAR race. Bettors can wager on a particular driver to win the race, wager that a driver will place in the top three, or bet that a particular driver finishes higher than another driver.
 
One bad race in the past meant your Chase was done. At New Hampshire just about all the Chase teams had to over come problems. A bad race puts a team on the bubble but there are chances to recover.
 
1 bad race leaves it to 9 races among the top 16 elite of Nascar. i think without winning in a segment, 1 bad, you're out, maybe except for right now the way the 2 car is performing. heck you can be knocked out without a bad race. you can win the championship without having a good race.
 
Thank god for Gordon's second place finish at Chicagoland. Dude would be sweating bullets heading into Dover where he's been more miss than hit lately.
 
A win in each round cancels out all bad races until the final race. That is the only race where a 20th place finish could win the title. Their is no carry over even after you win in a round which is why a driver who wins should let his teammate (S) get the win if they are in position. That is where this new system has a major flaw.
 
Lazyking said:
A win in each round cancels out all bad races until the final race. That is the only race where a 20th place finish could win the title. Their is no carry over even after you win in a round which is why a driver who wins should let his teammate (S) get the win if they are in position. That is where this new system has a major flaw.
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Yeah, I thought that also when Nascar laid out the format, so far there hasn't been a case where that can happen? It could have come into play as early as last week, and who knows, it might have already happened. Kez had a dominate car, but he did hit the wall with it. but after starting in the back, he did recover and ended up in the running. Who knows if he let off a bit a played it conservatively to give his team mate a shot at winning.
 
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