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putterspitt
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Sadler got screwed by NASCAR on tv
HoneyBadger
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Jeffrey00
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So disgusted right now.
HoneyBadger
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This thread gets nominated for "Best thread title of 2012"
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Mopardh9
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Disagree Sadler broke the rules, got what he deserved.
Matthew2470
It's not that serious
I just watched the race and my opinion is that Sadler got royally screwed on that black flag deal. How did NASCAR not see that Sam jacked up the 22 and that the 3 shoved the 2? Plus Brad is notorious for jackwagoning restarts when he's in the lead.
Oh well. Mistakes are made.
Oh well. Mistakes are made.
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Thegroundpounder99
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The Title is very misleading
NASCAR has shown ALOT of inconsistency with this rule this year. If this is their stance then anybody beating the leader to the line on a restart or start of race should be blacked flagged.
NASCAR has shown ALOT of inconsistency with this rule this year. If this is their stance then anybody beating the leader to the line on a restart or start of race should be blacked flagged.
mike honcho
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Seems like forever since we seen any RACING like that.
HoneyBadger
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Today, they said you cannot beat the leader to the restart line no matter how bad the restart -- but in 2010, same series and one of the same drivers involved, they decided that it was legal to beat the leader back to the line.
It's BS.
It's BS.
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At Bristol this year they deemed Matt Kenseth beat the leader twice to the line legally. I don't get it. This one was really a bad call.
Well there you go...Kenseth beat the leader to the line legally...whereas Sadler beat the leader to the line illegally.
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Kenseth gave it the go inside the 2 lines and Keselowski himself said after the race that drivers shouldn't be called on that. I suppose if he had lost that race, then twitter would've melted down
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Kenseth gave it the go inside the 2 lines and Keselowski himself said after the race that drivers shouldn't be called on that. I suppose if he had lost that race, then twitter would've melted down
It's amazing how tweety bird's opinion changes based on what race he's winning.
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Tweety Bird, LOL.
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mike honcho
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Nope, but watching it from the stands you could clearly see Bad Brad brake check and the 3 had the 2s rear hiked up pushing him so the 2 could not back off right away to give the position back. Richard C. on the radio screaming about that sumbeech screwing Sadler again and they were going to the trailer and raise hell that Brad wouldnt finish another race. Good stuff.
mike honcho
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Did he have his watch on?Cause it doesn't mean as much if he doesn't take that off.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Wow Andy, you and Jimmy Spencer agree that both those examples at Phoenix are the same thing.
It's really REALLY simple Andy and Spencer.
The leader CONTROLS the restart between the restart lines.
First Kyle screwup: If the leader doesn't restart the race, the flagman then restarts the race. If the leader is snoozing when the flag waves, like Kyle and Kasey were, NASCAR doesn't care who gets to the line first.
Second Kyle screwup: To get even, Kyle RESTARTS the race as the 2nd place car, but he does it inside the box. For some reason, NASCAR doesn't call this 'jumping the restart', because he didn't go before the first restart line. But he violated the rule that says the leader restarts the race INSIDE THE RESTART BOX.
Simple as hell if you actually think about it.
mike honcho
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Wow Andy, you and Jimmy Spencer agree that both those examples at Phoenix are the same thing.
It's really REALLY simple Andy and Spencer.
The leader CONTROLS the restart between the restart lines.
First Kyle screwup: If the leader doesn't restart the race, the flagman then restarts the race. If the leader is snoozing when the flag waves, like Kyle and Kasey were, NASCAR doesn't care who gets to the line first.
Second Kyle screwup: To get even, Kyle RESTARTS the race as the 2nd place car, but he does it inside the box. For some reason, NASCAR doesn't call this 'jumping the restart', because he didn't go before the first restart line. But he violated the rule that says the leader restarts the race INSIDE THE RESTART BOX.
Simple as hell if you actually think about it.
Just call them Spandy it's easier.
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MELROSEMAFIA
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No doubt, theres a feud going on between RCR and NASCRAP. And in particular Robin Pemberton. A few weeks back I noticed after the truck race RC was walking to victory lane, and as the cameras were following him, Pemberton steps out of the NASCRAP hauler, doesnt see RC walking by him for a few seconds, then sees him and stops dead in his tracks and turns and makes a beeline in the opposite direction.
ted@economy
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HoneyBadger
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Wow Andy, you and Jimmy Spencer agree that both those examples at Phoenix are the same thing.
It's really REALLY simple Andy and Spencer.
The leader CONTROLS the restart between the restart lines.
First Kyle screwup: If the leader doesn't restart the race, the flagman then restarts the race. If the leader is snoozing when the flag waves, like Kyle and Kasey were, NASCAR doesn't care who gets to the line first.
Second Kyle screwup: To get even, Kyle RESTARTS the race as the 2nd place car, but he does it inside the box. For some reason, NASCAR doesn't call this 'jumping the restart', because he didn't go before the first restart line. But he violated the rule that says the leader restarts the race INSIDE THE RESTART BOX.
Simple as hell if you actually think about it.
NASCAR said Sadler didn't jump the restart but that it's illegal to beat the leader to the line. Exact same situation.
But since both calls went Keselowski's way, you're going to support them both even if they contradict each other.
Sadler got the hose. Kezlousy's alarm clock didn't go off.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
lol Andy, sometimes you are as dense as depleted uranium. NASCAR explained the difference in the rules for a driver restart and a flag restart. They aren't the same.
Correction: all 3 calls went Brads way, because Brad understands the rules. When Sadler layed back and got the jump, he knew all he had to do was wait, then go half throttle and let Sadler beat him by a bunch.
mike honcho
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Remember Andy believes NOTHING NASCAR says.lol Andy, sometimes you are as dense as depleted uranium. NASCAR explained the difference in the rules for a driver restart and a flag restart. They aren't the same.
Correction: all 3 calls went Brads way, because Brad understands the rules. When Sadler layed back and got the jump, he knew all he had to do was wait, then go half throttle and let Sadler beat him by a bunch.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Oh yeah. Stupid me.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
I still can't understand how Andy thinks one teammate pushing another past the leader is a valid excuse for Sadler. Yeah, ther's nothing shady about that.
HoneyBadger
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lol Andy, sometimes you are as dense as depleted uranium. NASCAR explained the difference in the rules for a driver restart and a flag restart. They aren't the same.
Correction: all 3 calls went Brads way, because Brad understands the rules. When Sadler layed back and got the jump, he knew all he had to do was wait, then go half throttle and let Sadler beat him by a bunch.
"You cannot beat the leader to the line" was NASCAR's explanation. They didn't say Sadler jumped the restart, they said that you cannot beat the leader to the line, end of story.
How's the view from Brad's arse?
VaDirt
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"You cannot beat the leader to the line" was NASCAR's explanation. They didn't say Sadler jumped the restart, they said that you cannot beat the leader to the line, end of story.
How's the view from Brad's arse?
Andy, to use your own view of everyone else, here's what this looks like when someone's trying to explain something to you You.....just.....don't....listen.
HoneyBadger
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Andy, to use your own view of everyone else, here's what this looks like when someone's trying to explain something to you You.....just.....don't....listen.
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VaDirt
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is my reaction. I stand by my reaction (which, BTW, Jimmie Johnson who is, I don't know, a five-time Sprint Cup Series champion, thinks Sadler was bent over). NASCAR did NOT say Sadler jumped the restart. They said that, on a restart, the leader cannot be passed until after they cross the line and that's the end of the story.
That's everyone else's reaction talking to you. Damn near all of RF now has a headache. Is this yet another grudge you will never let go, and will continue to bring up for year and years with no good reason? My money says yes.
HoneyBadger
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VaDirt
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For years and years and years. I guess it never gets old to you, does it? Jeez.When NASCAR again changes the rule on the fly, yes it will be brought up.