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Jameswnh said:
They've now turned 600 laps, 1500 miles.

Starworks is going to give McNish one more stint, and finish with Dalziel. It's ultimately going to be between them and the 01 if you ask me.
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Whoops, correction. I was obviously thinking of the oval. 600 laps on the road course is about 2300 miles.
 
Juan and AJ going at it. If AJ pulls this off against the 01 it would be something.
 
Why can the FOX Sports networks do side-by-side coverage during UFC, college football and other sports that you miss nothing during commercials but can't for racing?
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
I'd still like to see the Cup cars run this course. I don't see any reason why they couldn't.
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The IROC Setries ran the Firehawks on the road course configuration and it was a damn good race!

dpkimmel2001 said:
Not all. I'm a restrictor plate racing fan but I sure wouldn't mind them swapping out the current July race configuration for the road course version.
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YOu GO, Girl!!!
 
First rolex I've missed in probably 5 years. Had to work.

Caught the last 20 minutes, not surprised to see a ganassi car up front. At least they've had challengers to their stinkfests the last couple years. I can understand Michael shank being tired of it, even I am.

I agree run the july race on the RC.
 
Magnethead said:
First rolex I've missed in probably 5 years. Had to work.

Caught the last 20 minutes, not surprised to see a ganassi car up front. At least they've had challengers to their stinkfests the last couple years. I can understand Michael shank being tired of it, even I am.

I agree run the july race on the RC.
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Mandating a restrictor on the corvettes handed ganassi and BMW the race.
 
I don't know how they handicap the cars but I assume that will change next year with the merger with ALMS. With 3-4 cars from different manufacturers on the lead lap after a couple thousand miles I'd say the cars were fairly balanced. In sports car racing the biggest budget usually wins - look for Audi to start dominating.
 
FenderBumper said:
Mandating a restrictor on the corvettes handed ganassi and BMW the race.
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Grand Am even realized they screwed up after qualifying and gave them a larger restrictor.

"We feel that the change was warranted based on what we saw yesterday," said GRAND-AM Managing Director of Communications, Herb Branham. "Basically, we're just lessening the restrictions from what they were when we came in here.

"It's all a work-in-progress and about balancing performance, trying to make it a good race and looking at data, seeing where we need to make changes. That's what we're doing."
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How many times has this played out in motorsports? You don't make a good race by pretending you can make 3 completely different cars equal. All that aside, making these changes on the week of the opening race, after qualifying no less, is unacceptable.

Should have just left it alone. Ganassi won the championship for crying out loud, and here you'd think they got blown away.
 
I think the problem goes back to the original RP. They took way too much, then gave just a little back. Getting this right seems like simple science. Everyone gets the same size restrictor. It's all math after that as far as how much fuel you can burn. Teams should be left to maximize air flow within the rules. If that gives them more HP, that's the way it is.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Why can the FOX Sports networks do side-by-side coverage during UFC, college football and other sports that you miss nothing during commercials but can't for racing?
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Because the commercial sponsors aren't willing to share the screen space.

I disagree about running the Daytona July race on the road course. I think they should run BOTH races on the RC, February and July.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Because the commercial sponsors aren't willing to share the screen space.
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Honestly, with as many commercials as the other sports events on FOX Sports networks didn't have this weekend, it looked to me like they were dumping all their commercials on SPEED. Or maybe more advertisers are signing on to SPEED right now since it's being cancelled and transformed in to FOX Sports 1.
 
Zerkfitting said:
Isn't that what NASCAR does?
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Absolutely. You also have IndyCar, which became the very definition of spec racing. Now they're both trying to undo the damage all that "equality" did.

All forms of racing have dealt with this, and I can't think of one instance where it did any good.
 
Jameswnh said:
Absolutely. You also have IndyCar, which became the very definition of spec racing. Now they're both trying to undo the damage all that "equality" did.

All forms of racing have dealt with this, and I can't think of one instance where it did any good.
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It sure cuts down on a lot a sandbagging , politicing and whining . With some sort of parity , all they can do is race. I , for one, don't want to go back to the good old days where the leader was the only lead lap car .
 
FenderBumper said:
I think the problem goes back to the original RP. They took way too much, then gave just a little back. Getting this right seems like simple science. Everyone gets the same size restrictor. It's all math after that as far as how much fuel you can burn. Teams should be left to maximize air flow within the rules. If that gives them more HP, that's the way it is.
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FSAE cars must all breathe through a 26mm ID orifice and max 600cc motor. Doesn't matter if single cylinder or 4 cylinder, or western washington even tried a 600cc 8 cylinder one year. You still have to breathe through a restrictor.

You wouldn't believe how close the times are... turbo, NA, 1/2/4 cylinders....all very tight together.
 
Magnethead said:
FSAE cars must all breathe through a 26mm ID orifice and max 600cc motor. Doesn't matter if single cylinder or 4 cylinder, or western washington even tried a 600cc 8 cylinder one year. You still have to breathe through a restrictor.

You wouldn't believe how close the times are... turbo, NA, 1/2/4 cylinders....all very tight together.
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I'm a little surprised the turbo doesn't own the field. It just seems dumb for Grand Am to use practice times instead of math. level things out by max air and rpm's and get your power to weight ratio.
 
FenderBumper said:
I'm a little surprised the turbo doesn't own the field. It just seems dumb for Grand Am to use practice times instead of math. level things out by max air and rpm's and get your power to weight ratio.
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turbo chokes out too quick. UTA went from an NA 600cc 4 cylinder to a turbo single 150cc to a turbo 250 twin now I think. All very comparable. The year i paid attention, they said the air through the restrictor was mach 0.85 or something like that.
 
ted@economy said:
It sure cuts down on a lot a sandbagging , politicing and whining . With some sort of parity , all they can do is race. I , for one, don't want to go back to the good old days where the leader was the only lead lap car .
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With the amount of money involved in racing today, and with the presence of super teams, I think we're well beyond that being an issue.
 
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