FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
I donated these to a local charity auction, should bring them a few bucks. Eat your heart out FB, your mans autographed firesuit swatch.
Nice.
Random NASCAR Stuff to talk about.....
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Nice.
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dpkimmel2001
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I saw one one day that said no one cares about your stick person family and had a jet bombing one.
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robbybee
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Agreed! It was a good survey!
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robbybee
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Ricky is such a sweetheart, ain't he? He gave his girl a flower on Valentine's Day!
*sigh*
dpkimmel2001
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The all new laser inspection platform.....
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Thegroundpounder99
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I remember that race like it was yesterday. Hard to believe it was 15 years ago, even harder to believe it's been 12 years he's been gone. In all the races I can recall, I can't remember one greater then the 1998 Daytona 500.
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Any heterosexual male that doesnt think she is sexy needs to schedule an appointment to get a testosterone shot.
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Thought I'd share my desktop pic. Mainly I was just trying to point out my new addition this year of Dish Network online. That's it in the upper right hand corner. I can view live TV or anything that I have recorded on either of my two DVR setup on this 27" PC monitor. I'm still waiting to see if there has been any improvements on nascar.com's Raceview before I purchase that again. It makes for a killer all-in-one way to view a race on a Sunday afternoon.
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Damn DP that would give me techitis (new word alert) overload. Good lookin setup though. Simplify grocery shopping? The simplest way for me to grocery shop is to ask the wife to do it, PLEASE.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Very nice. Johali says you need to add a Danica picture to spice up your desktop.
dpkimmel2001
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Yes, that's a fantastic app and online service for maintaining grocery lists. I've got parents that I take care of and part of my responsibilities include doing all of their shopping for them. I also do shopping for the concession stand at our local high school. That app and online service is the only way that I can keep things straight. The mobile app is called Out Of Milk.Simplify grocery shopping? The simplest way for me to grocery shop is to ask the wife to do it, PLEASE.
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Then I wouldn't need the one on my wall.
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robbybee
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You're a good man, DPK!!!
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
The Daytona 500 is a garbage race Matt ?
Matthew2470
It's not that serious
This is something we definitely agree on.
Matthew2470
It's not that serious
The Daytona 500 is a garbage race Matt ?
Not as bad as Talladega "racing" but still bad. The only thing that saves Daytona for for me is that it's the start of the season. RP "racing" is my least favorite but it's better than no racing at all.
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robbybee
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The Daytona 500 is a garbage race Matt ?
It's not a "garbage race" because, simply put, IT'S NOT A RACE!!
At best it's an exhibition...
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robbybee
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Not as bad as Talladega "racing" but still bad. The only thing that saves Daytona for for me is that it's the start of the season. RP "racing" is my least favorite but it's better than no racing at all.
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Road courses and short tracks.
I'd like to smack the idjit at CBS's marketing department who coined the phrase 'Super B0wl of Racing'.Not as bad as Talladega "racing" but still bad. The only thing that saves Daytona for for me is that it's the start of the season. RP "racing" is my least favorite but it's better than no racing at all.
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2014 Chevrolet SS to be unveiled today: Chevrolet is scheduled to hold a press conference to unveil the 2014 Chevrolet SS passenger vehicle on Saturday around 1:00pm/et at the Fan Zone at Daytona International Speedway.
dpkimmel2001
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Production version of the SS.
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ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Feelin sorry for your guys . But I 'll have something to do next Sunday while you are watchin the golf.
dpkimmel2001
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Nobody's fooling anyone on here. Everyone's here because they are NASCAR fans. NASCAR fans will whine and complain about everything under the Sun but they'll all be tuning in on Sunday because that's what we do.
Matthew2470
It's not that serious
Just because RP "racing" is my least favorite and I think that having Talladega in The Chase is completely moronic doesn't change the fact that I will watch every lap of every race from every series that's broadcast. I'm a NASCAR fan. I bleed NASCAR. While not high on my list of tracks to attend, I still plan to one day attend races at both of those places. I'm actually considering going to the Daytona 500 next year.
dpkimmel2001
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A eulogy for the CoT.
Ryan McGee
ESPN The Magazine
Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to say goodbye to our old friend, the CoT.
On Friday at Daytona, NASCAR's new Generation 6 cars hit the track for the first time during a genuine race weekend. That means that the CoT has officially shuffled off this motor oil, ahem, mortal coil.
Some of you might remember him as the Car of Tomorrow. But now, for him there are no more tomorrows. Only six years of high-speed yesterdays, with which will we shall always remember our bygone companion for both the good and the bad. There was plenty of both.
Others might call him Gen 5. If you are among that group, we need you to leave the parlor immediately. Clearly, you didn't actually know CoT, because that "Gen" name was tacked on after he was gone and, quite frankly, you're taking seats in this service from those of us who did know him.
Ol' CoT certainly wasn't the handsomest member of the NASCAR family. I think we all remember back in 2007, when he first arrived sporting that big black carbon fiber mullet. He called it a wing. Said it helped him look cool, like Vin Diesel in "The Fast and The Furious." It didn't. Thank goodness he eventually cut it off, opting for a more sensible spoiler. And when he finally decided to get that nose job in 2011, I certainly don't think any of us gathered here today had any complaints.
"Honestly, I'm kind of divided on how I feel about the CoT moving on," says Alan Gustafson, who won the car's first race -- at Bristol on March 25, 2007, with Kyle Busch -- and its final race -- at Homestead on Nov. 18, 2012, with Jeff Gordon. "On one hand, it was very good to me. I was fortunate enough to win a lot of races with that car. But on other hand, it felt like we just kind of tolerated it. It wasn't pretty, but it was the hand we were dealt."
Brothers and sisters, let us always remember how CoT handled those early years with such grace. It certainly couldn't have been easy for him to hear Busch, the first driver he had ever carried to Victory Lane, immediately declare on national television that he sucked. And it had to have been difficult constantly avoiding television and radio so as to avoid hearing the endless criticism of his body, that his shape was too "boxy" and had no distinguishing curves to speak of. Then there were the claims that he refused to play well with others, that he wouldn't ever get close enough on the intermediate tracks and was too choosy about his playmates on the superspeedways.
But CoT, he managed to tune all of that out and just go about his business. He immortalized the words of Lord Byron, who wrote, "'Tis very certain the desire of life prolongs it," and King Richard (Petty), who added, "Sometimes it's a blessing to be hard of hearing."
As he now returns to the sheet metal rack whence he came, CoT likely will always be described as a divider. A touchstone for controversy. The continental divide of an ongoing argument about exactly what it is that defines good racing.
Sure, we can say "divider," but we could also say "provider."
After all, the statistics tell us that CoT produced one of the most competitive eras in NASCAR's 60-plus seasons. His five full seasons on the track produced at least a dozen different winners in each of those 36-race schedules. His last two years saw 33 different visitors to Victory Lane in 72 races. That's a lot. Going back to his first year, the 16-race slate of '07, CoT handed checkered flags to 28 different drivers in 196 races, including first-time winners such as Martin Truex Jr., David Reutimann, Juan Pablo Montoya, Trevor Bayne, Regan Smith, David Ragan, Marcos Ambrose and Paul Menard.
"I don't care how ugly someone might say a race car is," says Reutimann, a two-time CoT winner, his only two Sprint Cup wins. "They all look pretty standing in Victory Lane."
Sure, we can say "divider," but we could also say "uniter."
No, seriously.
"In a strange way, the CoT is what finally got us all back together. It stabilized things in the garage between the competitors, the auto manufacturers and NASCAR," explains Chad Knaus, the crew chief who won four of his five Cup titles with Jimmie Johnson in seasons when the CoT was used. "Things had gotten a little out of control with the old cars. The CoT wasn't exactly my favorite race car. But it did kind of hit the reset button on how we do car construction and how NASCAR does technical inspection. The sport needed that."
Sure, we can say "divider," but we could also say "protector."
Just ask those who have found themselves ricocheting off walls or tumbling end over end at 190 mph, wrapped in its steel arms. Ask Michael McDowell, Elliott Sadler, Denny Hamlin, Dale Earnhardt Jr., Ryan Newman, Brad Keselowski, Sam Hornish Jr. and pretty much anyone who has raced at Daytona or Talladega in the past five years. Today we might gather at the funeral of the CoT. But because of the CoT, we never had to gather at theirs.
"To me, that will always be the legacy of that car," says Jeff Gordon, who, mere moments after publicly bragging about the sleeker looks of the Gen 6 machine, referenced his skeleton-shaking hits at Las Vegas in 2008 and at Watkins Glen the next year. "I don't even like to think about what might have happened to me had I been in those crashes in the old car. All the safety changes that came with the CoT will still be in these new 2013 cars. That part I'm glad is sticking around. If the CoT is what it took to get us there, that's fine by me."
It's as if Jeff de Gordon is channeling the words of Charles de Gaulle, who once said, "Graveyards are full of indispensable men." Or, in this case, junkyards are full of indispensable cars. "If, in the end, the CoT's job was to be the bridge that got us into a safer future," says Carl Edwards, who nearly won the 2011 Cup title in a CoT, "Then that is certainly no shameful legacy."
And so, dearly beloved, we give one last Barney Hall call to our departed compatriot. The race car that knew all too well the sentiment of Friedrich Nietzsche, who once praised the ability "To die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." Or in the words of another great philosopher, crew chief Richard "Slugger" Labbe, "Yeah, it was time to take this horse out back and shoot it."
Crashes to crashes, dust to dust.
Ryan McGee
ESPN The Magazine
Dearly beloved, we are gathered here today to say goodbye to our old friend, the CoT.
On Friday at Daytona, NASCAR's new Generation 6 cars hit the track for the first time during a genuine race weekend. That means that the CoT has officially shuffled off this motor oil, ahem, mortal coil.
Some of you might remember him as the Car of Tomorrow. But now, for him there are no more tomorrows. Only six years of high-speed yesterdays, with which will we shall always remember our bygone companion for both the good and the bad. There was plenty of both.
Others might call him Gen 5. If you are among that group, we need you to leave the parlor immediately. Clearly, you didn't actually know CoT, because that "Gen" name was tacked on after he was gone and, quite frankly, you're taking seats in this service from those of us who did know him.
Ol' CoT certainly wasn't the handsomest member of the NASCAR family. I think we all remember back in 2007, when he first arrived sporting that big black carbon fiber mullet. He called it a wing. Said it helped him look cool, like Vin Diesel in "The Fast and The Furious." It didn't. Thank goodness he eventually cut it off, opting for a more sensible spoiler. And when he finally decided to get that nose job in 2011, I certainly don't think any of us gathered here today had any complaints.
"Honestly, I'm kind of divided on how I feel about the CoT moving on," says Alan Gustafson, who won the car's first race -- at Bristol on March 25, 2007, with Kyle Busch -- and its final race -- at Homestead on Nov. 18, 2012, with Jeff Gordon. "On one hand, it was very good to me. I was fortunate enough to win a lot of races with that car. But on other hand, it felt like we just kind of tolerated it. It wasn't pretty, but it was the hand we were dealt."
Brothers and sisters, let us always remember how CoT handled those early years with such grace. It certainly couldn't have been easy for him to hear Busch, the first driver he had ever carried to Victory Lane, immediately declare on national television that he sucked. And it had to have been difficult constantly avoiding television and radio so as to avoid hearing the endless criticism of his body, that his shape was too "boxy" and had no distinguishing curves to speak of. Then there were the claims that he refused to play well with others, that he wouldn't ever get close enough on the intermediate tracks and was too choosy about his playmates on the superspeedways.
But CoT, he managed to tune all of that out and just go about his business. He immortalized the words of Lord Byron, who wrote, "'Tis very certain the desire of life prolongs it," and King Richard (Petty), who added, "Sometimes it's a blessing to be hard of hearing."
As he now returns to the sheet metal rack whence he came, CoT likely will always be described as a divider. A touchstone for controversy. The continental divide of an ongoing argument about exactly what it is that defines good racing.
Sure, we can say "divider," but we could also say "provider."
After all, the statistics tell us that CoT produced one of the most competitive eras in NASCAR's 60-plus seasons. His five full seasons on the track produced at least a dozen different winners in each of those 36-race schedules. His last two years saw 33 different visitors to Victory Lane in 72 races. That's a lot. Going back to his first year, the 16-race slate of '07, CoT handed checkered flags to 28 different drivers in 196 races, including first-time winners such as Martin Truex Jr., David Reutimann, Juan Pablo Montoya, Trevor Bayne, Regan Smith, David Ragan, Marcos Ambrose and Paul Menard.
"I don't care how ugly someone might say a race car is," says Reutimann, a two-time CoT winner, his only two Sprint Cup wins. "They all look pretty standing in Victory Lane."
Sure, we can say "divider," but we could also say "uniter."
No, seriously.
"In a strange way, the CoT is what finally got us all back together. It stabilized things in the garage between the competitors, the auto manufacturers and NASCAR," explains Chad Knaus, the crew chief who won four of his five Cup titles with Jimmie Johnson in seasons when the CoT was used. "Things had gotten a little out of control with the old cars. The CoT wasn't exactly my favorite race car. But it did kind of hit the reset button on how we do car construction and how NASCAR does technical inspection. The sport needed that."
Sure, we can say "divider," but we could also say "protector."
Just ask those who have found themselves ricocheting off walls or tumbling end over end at 190 mph, wrapped in its steel arms. Ask Michael McDowell, Elliott Sadler, Denny Hamlin, Dale Earnhardt Jr., Ryan Newman, Brad Keselowski, Sam Hornish Jr. and pretty much anyone who has raced at Daytona or Talladega in the past five years. Today we might gather at the funeral of the CoT. But because of the CoT, we never had to gather at theirs.
"To me, that will always be the legacy of that car," says Jeff Gordon, who, mere moments after publicly bragging about the sleeker looks of the Gen 6 machine, referenced his skeleton-shaking hits at Las Vegas in 2008 and at Watkins Glen the next year. "I don't even like to think about what might have happened to me had I been in those crashes in the old car. All the safety changes that came with the CoT will still be in these new 2013 cars. That part I'm glad is sticking around. If the CoT is what it took to get us there, that's fine by me."
It's as if Jeff de Gordon is channeling the words of Charles de Gaulle, who once said, "Graveyards are full of indispensable men." Or, in this case, junkyards are full of indispensable cars. "If, in the end, the CoT's job was to be the bridge that got us into a safer future," says Carl Edwards, who nearly won the 2011 Cup title in a CoT, "Then that is certainly no shameful legacy."
And so, dearly beloved, we give one last Barney Hall call to our departed compatriot. The race car that knew all too well the sentiment of Friedrich Nietzsche, who once praised the ability "To die proudly when it is no longer possible to live proudly." Or in the words of another great philosopher, crew chief Richard "Slugger" Labbe, "Yeah, it was time to take this horse out back and shoot it."
Crashes to crashes, dust to dust.
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Good article.
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robbybee
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Feelin sorry for your guys . But I 'll have something to do next Sunday while you are watchin the golf.
Oh, I'll be a-watchin... Destructor Plate races are always full of drama and are a great "exhibition", as I said before.
Just because RP "racing" is my least favorite and I think that having Talladega in The Chase is completely moronic doesn't change the fact that I will watch every lap of every race from every series that's broadcast. I'm a NASCAR fan. I bleed NASCAR. While not high on my list of tracks to attend, I still plan to one day attend races at both of those places.
Plus 10!
I watch or record every race in the Top 3 series. I even record the races I attend in person.
ted@economy
in the interest of equal time
Don't you wonder if this new car isn't being oversold ? It's just lipstick on the pig in my opinion. Don't get me wrong , I love it , but it's pretty much the same COT car with a new body . Same tracks , same drivers ,etc. I haven't heard a single driver , crew chief , owner , media person , track owner , anybody ,do anything but rave about how great this car is going to be . Maybe it will be , but why doesn't one person say ," I'll wait till I see it in a race before I jump on board "? I sure hope that it can live up to the hype , but the bar is getting awfully high.
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robbybee
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I agree. I think that same Aero Push issues that we have heard about for years will be present at the 1.5 milers. They have, if anything, increased the importance of downforce in these new cars and we all know what happens to downforce when a car gets in "dirty air". It's an improvement but...
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
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MOEJOE
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Amazing how the grill without the bow-tie on it, resembles the entire front "grill area" on the Fusion.Production version of the SS.
If you were to take out the white plastic body work between the two grills and fill it with grill work, you would have a grill with the same overall shape as the Chevy lower grill.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
Chevy stole Fords grill. Jacks going to be pissed.
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And the gibbs are going to be pissed that they didnt get in on it.
FenderBumper
The "good old days" ??
The Camry sure could use some styling.