RATE the RACE: Bristol

9.5 it was a great race, not to many cautions good side by side racing, JR took out the 24!!! if Biffle won it would have been a 10. anyone that gives this race below a 8 or 7.5 area just like to watch cars crash, and is not a racing fan....IMO
 
Biffle16 said:
9.5 it was a great race, not to many cautions good side by side racing, JR took out the 24!!! if Biffle won it would have been a 10. anyone that gives this race below a 8 or 7.5 area just like to watch cars crash, and is not a racing fan....IMO
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I thought Biffle would be the guy to beat.
 
I picked The Biff in Spike's Game and he was also on my Fantasy Team. I was hoping for (and expecting) a better run by the 16.

Oh, well...
 
me too, I didn't get the in car radio this season so I am not sure what happened my guess is the tried to make a good car better and went the wrong way.
 
Matthew2470 said:
Some people just suck at Bristol. Biffle is one of them.
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since 09 he has two 4thplaces and two 8th places a 13th today and a 39th place blown engine and a crappy 31st I wouldn't say he sucks buck could be better for sure
 
Biffle16 said:
since 09 he has two 4thplaces and two 8th places a 13th today and a 39th place blown engine and a crappy 31st I wouldn't say he sucks buck could be better for sure
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I know. I only said that because you took such joy from the misfortunes of the 24. I'm immature like that sometimes.:)
 
8.0

I liked the long green runs in the middle of the race, hate cautions.
 
I'll give it a 7 because even though there was good racing the Kasey Kahne incident took out a lot of good cars that would have made for an even better overall race.
 
getadietdew said:
most,next weeks track kinda bites too.
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I have to agree with you there, GADD. I live in SoCal and the 500 mile races at Fontucky became so tedious to watch that I stopped going on Sundays. Now I just go on Saturdays. I can watch the shorter N'wide race and still get to see and hear the CUP cars.

However, from a driver's perspective, diving into Turn One at over 200MPH for 200 laps is probably NOT boring at all!!

If I remember correctly, you are a Plate Man, right? So you like Daytona and 'Dega best?
 
Great side by side racing. Give it an 8. I like the idea cars can race like that without wrecking each other. There are still several instances of a subtle hint to a slower car to "move over and let me by," if that is what fans want to see.
 
robbybee said:
I have to agree with you there, GADD. I live in SoCal and the 500 mile races at Fontucky became so tedious to watch that I stopped going on Sundays. Now I just go on Saturdays. I can watch the shorter N'wide race and still get to see and hear the CUP cars.

However, from a driver's perspective, diving into Turn One at over 200MPH for 200 laps is probably NOT boring at all!!

If I remember correctly, you are a Plate Man, right? So you like Daytona and 'Dega best?
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Dega,Martiansvile is my 2nd best,then the Glen.
 
Matthew2470 said:
Good article regarding the poor attendance:
http://mobile.sbnation.com/nascar/2012/3/19/2884086/bristol-attendance-nascar-2012
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Thanks for the article. I agree I think the economy and the re-configuration has lead to the dismal attendance. I was surprised at the amount of empty seats yesterday though. I'm a race fan, I like it when the cars are on any track, testing, practicing, qualifying or racing I love cars on the track. The racing is different now. Yes I like it, but it's not the same. I think if they had that configuration at a track that didn't have the history Bristol does it'd be a hit with everybody. I just hope nobody gets the idea to mess with Martinsville, she's just perfect.
 
FenderBumper said:
that's a great article. I like the point he makes about Bristol now being like every other track. I like the new Bristol, but maybe the progressive banking went too far. Perhaps they could find a better mix. I doubt Bristol stands pat after the terrible showing last weekend.
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During one of the broadcasts they mentioned that the powers that be at Bristol were taking a hard look at the track and are considering another reconfiguration.


Second, Bristol is no longer a must-attend event. When the track had one groove and drivers had to bump their way past competitors to gain track position, the Bristol race was like watching a NASCAR bullfight.
Fans came to see cars rubbing fenders and tempers and crashes, and the drama required everyone to be glued to their seats to see what would happen next. If you liked NASCAR, you had to be there; if you weren't there, you were jealous of those who scored a coveted ticket.
Not anymore. Bristol now has side-by-side racing, but it also has long, green-flag runs and few crashes. The official race report listed just one multi-car crash in Sunday's race.
That's not the Bristol racing most fans really want, but many people in the industry are still having trouble accepting it.
The purists continue to talk about "real racing" and try to guilt those of us who enjoyed the old Bristol drama into feeling bad about it. Their oft-repeated stance is if fans can't find a way to enjoy the new Bristol racing – the cleaner, tamer kind – then they're not real NASCAR fans.
I disagree. The purists are missing a key point: "Real racing" occurs at nearly every other track in every other week. The places fans want to see side-by-side excitement is at 1.5-mile intermediate tracks, not a half-mile short track where drivers should have to root and gouge for every position.
Bristol was once a must-see because it was unique. But since the reconfiguration, the racing seems to be about the same as at every other track.
So when race fans take a hard look at their travel and entertainment budgets, the once-great Bristol has become an easy one to skip.
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I have to admit that I hadn't really considered the above points. Personally I like the new configuration but I can now better understand why some preferred the old configuration. It's always good to read a well thought out opinion on something rather than "The new Bristol sucks!!!" type of rant we too often hear/read.
 
Thegroundpounder99 said:
Thanks for the article. I agree I think the economy and the re-configuration has lead to the dismal attendance. I was surprised at the amount of empty seats yesterday though. I'm a race fan, I like it when the cars are on any track, testing, practicing, qualifying or racing I love cars on the track. The racing is different now. Yes I like it, but it's not the same. I think if they had that configuration at a track that didn't have the history Bristol does it'd be a hit with everybody. I just hope nobody gets the idea to mess with Martinsville, she's just perfect.
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I agree with what you are saying. While I like the fact that you can now pass at Bristol , I hate it when they make changes like taking the bumps out of Daytona ..it makes it a different track. I hope that they take tradition into consideration next time they are going to make a change. Indy is fine being square ; Pocono is fine as a triangle ;Martinsville is fine as a paperclip. Change isn't always necessary.
 
MOEJOE said:
A good though on that article, from it's page.

There were several recessions from 1982-2009, yet there were 55 consecutive sellouts during that period. I think the track reconfiguration has a whole lot more to do with fans staying at home than the poor economy.
logman - March 19, 2012
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What was the seating capacity, ticket price and cost of gas for each of those sellouts?
 
Matthew2470 said:
What was the seating capacity, ticket price and cost of gas for each of those sellouts?
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I don't know any of that info but if anyones interested here is some of the timeline of the seating capacity

On Jan. 22, 1996, Larry Carrier sold the speedway to Bruton Smith's Speedway Motorsports, Inc.(SMI), at a purchase price of $26 million. At the time of the sale, the facility seated 71,000. On May 28 of that same year, the track’s name was officially changed to Bristol Motor Speedway. By August, 15,000 seats had been added bringing the seating capacity to 86,000.

BMS continued to grow and by April 1997 was the largest sports arena in Tennessee and one of the largest in the country, seating 118,000. The speedway also boasted 22 new skyboxes. For the August 1998 Goody’s 500 the speedway featured more than 131,000 grandstand seats and 100 skyboxes.

The capacity for the Food City 500 in March 2000 was 147,000 as the Kulwicki Terrace and Kulwicki Tower were completed

On Monday, August 26, 2002 work began on the most ambitious construction project since SMI's purchase of BMS in 1996. The entire backstretch, including the Speedway’s last remaining concrete seats, was demolished. The new backstretch increased the venue’s seating capacity to more than 160,000.
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
I don't know any of that info but if anyones interested here is some of the timeline of the seating capacity

On Jan. 22, 1996, Larry Carrier sold the speedway to Bruton Smith's Speedway Motorsports, Inc.(SMI), at a purchase price of $26 million. At the time of the sale, the facility seated 71,000. On May 28 of that same year, the track’s name was officially changed to Bristol Motor Speedway. By August, 15,000 seats had been added bringing the seating capacity to 86,000.

BMS continued to grow and by April 1997 was the largest sports arena in Tennessee and one of the largest in the country, seating 118,000. The speedway also boasted 22 new skyboxes. For the August 1998 Goody’s 500 the speedway featured more than 131,000 grandstand seats and 100 skyboxes.

The capacity for the Food City 500 in March 2000 was 147,000 as the Kulwicki Terrace and Kulwicki Tower were completed

On Monday, August 26, 2002 work began on the most ambitious construction project since SMI's purchase of BMS in 1996. The entire backstretch, including the Speedway’s last remaining concrete seats, was demolished. The new backstretch increased the venue’s seating capacity to more than 160,000.
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And then, after years of amazing success, they decided to change the secret formula. Genius
 
Solid 7 in my book. I'll still go regardless the configuration but I have to say that I love the racing and the fact that someone other than Brett Bodine can lead the most laps there now. :cool:
 
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