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What do ya'll think about it?

I like it because of it's looks and gives us West Ky REDNECKS a flag.

i dont like the slave part of it. but that has nothing to do with the batle flag
 
It's red, white and blue.....but it ain't the flag of the United States of America. It's not a state flag either. IMO, it falls in the catagory of a fan flag......like the ones you see at the races. Shouldn't be banned or outlawed but then it shouldn't be taken too seriously either. So you got a "no vote" on your poll.
 
I know I shouldn't even open my mouth but.....


Gotcha, freedom of speech. But what are you trying to say? Anything good???
 
I just like the way it looks. Big fan of primary colors. :)
 
Not to sure about it myself. I agree with what DE says, Its not the flag of the USA. I dont believe it should be taken to the point in which it is flown before or higher than that of the American flag. To me a confederate flag, is just someones right to fly it.
 
Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2


Where's the yellow abooja?  :D
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Two outta three ain't bad...

Besides, you can get some yellow by flying a Don't Tread On Me flag on the same pole. ;)
 
I would never fly it. To me it represents the saddest era in American history.
 
Being curious, not a "rebel" rouser (ha ha), what is the deal with the confederate flag if not to insinuate hostility.

I myself don't think it should be outlawd by anymeans, just wonder why it strikes such a chord w/ southernerns if not for what it means civil war-wise......
 
Originally posted by 71Fan
I would never fly it. To me it represents the saddest era in American history.
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I agree 100%. To me, it represents a time war and slavery.
 
its a old american flag really it would be like flying the old flags with 13 stars or the union flag etc etc. It represented the south and one of the main things the war got started over was the south wanted slavery and the north didnt.The funny thing is alot of blacks and indians went to canada I think it was around that time period but not sure about that. I personally dont have anything against people who fly it but I just prefer to fly the updated version it stands for our nation ( the way it is currently) but I don't have a problem with people flying it.

I agree with paul and 71fan, flags represent that country at its current time which was Slavery and war. Also not just any war but war where brothers fought brothers and friends fought friends.
 
HEll...I'd fly it! NO MATTER WHAT! ITs my right! Hell I'd even fly the JACK TOO!
 
Originally posted by HappyHour
Being curious, not a "rebel" rouser (ha ha), what is the deal with the confederate flag if not to insinuate hostility.

I myself don't think it should be outlawd by anymeans, just wonder why it strikes such a chord w/ southernerns if not for what it means civil war-wise......
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I'll take this one, if I may...

Certain fringe organizations have poached the flag to use in their own causes, whether it be hate, racism, fear or simple defiance. This has led to mass misconception and even more stereotyping, as if we Southerners didn't already have enough of that to deal with.

I don't own a rebel flag. I don't own an image of one unless it would be on a CD cover or something like that. I don't plan on buying a rebel flag anytime soon. But anyone who knows me, or knows me from here, should be able to figure out that I am a proud Southerner, and will be until I'm called home.

The flag means different things to different people. Some rightly feel offended when they see it. Some feel offended for the wrong reasons. Some feel pride, some feel remorse, some feel ashamed. Most people that I know personally that do fly or display it, and that would be probably 100 people or more, do so for the same or similar reasons. It is not done to make some racist statement. I want that out of the way right now. Southerners, at least true, rural, born-n-raised Southerners, see that flag as a reminder that, while slavery was wrong, we allowed ourselves to be defeated once. Contrary to what your politically correct history books want you to believe, slavery was not the only, or even primary, issue during the War Between the States.

Put another way...the South is the only region of the United States that has, or had, its own symbol by which one can be identified. California liscense plates are sought after by hot rodders and others so they may identify with a certain perceived image. Ask a true Texan about Lone Star Beer. New England has...well....give me a minute... Many of us feel that the area we live in is the best place in the country to live. Southerners have the rebel flag to use as an identifying symbol. If other areas had such a symbol, they would use them just as liberally as we use the Stars and Bars.

To me, anyone who uses the rebel flag as a symbol of racism, hatred, or other negative causes is plain wrong. But I'll fight till the last drop of blood to protect and preserve the flag as a symbol of my proud Southern heritage.
 
I agree with TN-Ward-Fan. To me it is a rememberance of my families dedication to the home and land they loved. Slaverly was not the main issue of this terrible war. And here's a little history lesson for you.
1860- South Carolina secedes from the union, the first state to do so.
Apr 1861- The Northren occupation forces are attacked at Fort Sumter, Charlestown, SC. The start of the War between the States.
1863- Lincoln signs the Emancipation Proclamation freeing the slaves in the southern States. Notice just the south.
Apr 1865- the South surrenders, the war is over.
Dec 1865- 13th Amendment is passed to abolish Slavery.

The battle flag, or stars and bars, was never the flag of the CSA. It was a battle flag used by the South. The starts and bars only flew for four years, during the time of war and slavery. The stars and stripes flew over slavery from the start of our nation until after the Civil war was over. Don't try to convince me differently, When I see the stars and bars I don't don't see slavery I see family heritage.

Ironic twist, since some groups have been trying to have to stars and bars outlawed you see more of them than you ever did before. Kinda like the 9-11 commercial showing the street of houses before and after 9-11, no flags and then flags everwhere.
 
No offense intended, I live up north. I do not buy the fact the all the people that fly the Rebel Flag up here do it to celebrate history. Down south might be a different story.
 
Its a shame that it has become a symbol of racism for skinheads and neo-nazis.
To me it is a sad memorial to southern boys who died for it. Most of them did not have slaves but worked their own land.
 
But doesn't the difference lie in the fact that someone who proudly calls himself a "REDNECK" and then likes to fly it, and post it on the internet?
 
Originally posted by paul
But doesn't the difference lie in the fact that someone who proudly calls himself a "REDNECK" and then likes to fly it, and post it on the internet?
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Who, me?

True enough, I'm red. No denying it. As stated before, I do not own nor display a rebel flag, and do not intend to start now. But it's a part of my heritage and stood for far more than one issue, an issue I feel was wrong anyway.

The difference is intent. Sadly, there's no real way of knowing someone's intent unless you ask them, and then they could be lying. But it's usually pretty evident what someone's motivations are with a little observation.
 
No, not you. I was referring to the thread starter.

Ignorance is the most dangerous weapon in the world.

Everyone complains about being PC and how much it sucks to have to watch what you say because you might offend some minority etc etc. They are all fine and dandy about it until they are the ones under the microscope.
 
Some folks don't need a flag to show there ignorance,as is the case in hand.:rolleyes:
 
well, i guess if they should ban the flag, then they should ban the whole southern USA. Hello? it represents the south. so what. people add meanings to it just like anything else. let it be.
 
How about flying the Swatstika outside your house?

Yes you have the right to, I suppose, but you damn well better be prepared to take some flak for it.
 
I know, I wave a Harvick flag and I get beat up on here.:D
 
Originally posted by paul
How about flying the Swatstika outside your house?  

Yes you have the right to, I suppose, but you damn well better be prepared to take some flak for it.
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SO what!!! as long as its not on your property you cant do a DAMN THING! SO MIND YOUR OWN BUSINESS!
 
I can say whatever I please. It's called Freedom of speech, and yes it even applies when you're the target.
 
as i said before i dont like the slave part about it. i have been the target a lot of times. and i just am wording what orters think about the flag.
 
Who makes those little funeral flags?Those morbid son of bithes.:rolleyes:
 
Represents a group of people and a particular lifestyle of that people in that area. It still represents the South 150 yrs after the abolition of slavery. Fly it.
 
Ok i didn't read this thing but is saw the part about flying it or burning it! Well I get cussed out at school because i wear dixie outfitter shirts to school! And my teachers tell me to quit wearing them. They say a redneck is a racist! Well I am a redneck and i ain't a racist so i finally told my teacher she could take her opinion and shove it! And i got suspended! I Love my Flag i Fly it i wear it! OH but no someone always takes offense to the flags history! Well wut was done is done we can't change it even if we wanted to! It wasn't us it may have been relatition but NOT US! I myself beleive in supporting southern heritage! I don't think by n e means that slavery is "right" i would havechanged that if i could have! We had the rebel flag we fought for the rebel flag we can't pretend it doesn't exsist! Well that is my opinion!
 
"I'm a redneck but I'm not racist"

What's a redneck then? I think you mean you're a southerner.

Redneck implies ignorance.
 
No really! Redneck meaning a word that we call ourselfs that others take offense to! OK u might wanna say a "Rebel" Well we like to do things diferent but we have other words for it! No It may imply ignorance to most ppl! BUT if ur looking at it from my point of veiw it is hurtful! I was brought up with the rebe flag and i was brought up to know wut i know it may not b much but i do know where i am from and wut i call myself! Either one is fine as long as u don't call me racist! WEll Paul do me a favor change the meaning or have two when u hear it from me cause i mean it my way! lol ! Thanks!
 
It's almost like when black people call each other "******" it's meant as a term of endearment, however if a white person were to use that term...all hell would break lose.

If a northerner were to call a southerner a redneck they would either be proud of it (hmm, wonder why) or all hell would break lose.
 
U wonder y! Well for one we ain't "skeerd" and by all means let n e one say what they want my teacher who is a northerner calls me a redneck and i am proud of it! So wuts the big deal? We fought we lost we sucked it up! well i am dropping it now cuz if i ain't(another southern word) got my point across then i never will but oh well! its either u do or you u don't!
 
Again, if I may...

I consider myself both a Southerner and a redneck. I also have a college degree. To me, and I think others also see it this way, you can be Southern without being red; you can be red without being Southern. Red to me is not derrogatory, although I do certainly recognize that many people use it that way. I myself have been known to use the term that way when I wanted to be perceived a certain way.

My own lexicography defines a Southerner as anyone born or living a majority of their life in what are traditionally known as the Southern States. My definition of redneck is one who A) lives in a rural setting by choice and enjoys it tremendously, B) could care less HOW y'all do it in town, C) will not easily buckle under to the pressures of society, conformists, and/or "the norms", and D) could not possibly care less if you don't like it.

Therefore, I'm a Southern Appalachian Highlands Redneck. Wish they'd include that on job applications under "race".
 
TWF, thanks for setting that straight. I was going to ask what the definition of "redneck" was.......Some people think that since I'm from Alabama, I'm a redneck. I had a big truck in hight school- 1976 Chevy 4x4 with a six inch lift, big block 454 engine witha custom grill....does that make me a redneck? When I float around in my pool with a Jack-n-coke in my hand while Skynard is in my stereo, does that make me a redneck? When I go out to dinner and I have four different forks and three different glasses in front of me and I have to wear slacks and a shirt, does that make me a preppie? If I go play around of golf and wear khaki shorts and a Nike pullover, am I preppie? Ok, worse case senerio........I leave from playing golf, (in my khakis and Nike shirt) get into my Chevy truck, put on some Thchovsky, and go to Wal-Mart....


What the hell am I now????????


No matter what you do, wear, listen to, say, believe in or like, will make everyone happy. The Confederate Flag is a part of history. Some people thinks it represents the South, other thinks it represents slavery. If you wear it out in public, you'll get some people giving you a "thumbs up" and other people who will spit on it. Just the same if you would wear an "X" shirt or hat. (Malcomn X).

But God help you if you said something about that.................
 
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